Price Hikes Galore! (Genie+ variable pricing, ILL, refillable mugs, SWGE lightsaber and droids)

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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TheMaxRebo said:
one thing the increase to the ILLs is doing to me is reducing chance I would pay for an attraction more than once in a trip. We haven't done GotG yet and our upcoming trip is short but have hoppers so was thinking of getting the ILL more than once - if it goes higher than $15 when we are there, likely won't. Same with for Rise - love the ride, will pay once to avoid a 2+ hour line, but at $20/person, hard to pay more than once

so, in some ways, this is having the effect they probably want
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Only two of the current ILLs are even worth considering paying for. I would say 3 when tron opens.
 
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dreday3

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TheMaxRebo said:
one thing the increase to the ILLs is doing to me is reducing chance I would pay for an attraction more than once in a trip. We haven't done GotG yet and our upcoming trip is short but have hoppers so was thinking of getting the ILL more than once - if it goes higher than $15 when we are there, likely won't. Same with for Rise - love the ride, will pay once to avoid a 2+ hour line, but at $20/person, hard to pay more than once

so, in some ways, this is having the effect they probably want
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Last trip my brother was with us, so if we repeated a ride, he'd treat that time. :D

This trip we plan to purchase rides once only and utilize rope-drop, deluxe hours if still available and just plain old waiting in line for repeat rides.

The only duplicates may be GoTG if we love it that much and Rat because that rides gives me joy! (but I think we can do Rat at rope-drop from Beach Club one morning)
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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dreday3 said:
Last trip my brother was with us, so if we repeated a ride, he'd treat that time. :D

This trip we plan to purchase rides once only and utilize rope-drop, deluxe hours if still available and just plain old waiting in line for repeat rides.

The only duplicates may be GoTG if we love it that much and Rat because that rides gives me joy! (but I think we can do Rat at rope-drop from Beach Club one morning)
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I try not to be aloof with this - so I apologize…

But you’ve GOT to be less of a Mark.

Not really a “lol” thing.
 
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dreday3

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I try not to be aloof with this - so I apologize…

But you’ve GOT to be less of a Mark.

Not really a “lol” thing.
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I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you are insulting me. I was being funny, pretending we didn't technically pay.

But have at it, you aren't happy unless you're insulting someone...
 
TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Only two of the current ILLs are even worth considering paying for. I would say 3 when tron opens.
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obviously depends a little on the specifics of the trip (shorter trip has more value to save time, etc)

but in general I look at it that an hour in the park costs ~$12 based on the ticket price, so if I can spend $12 or less to skip an hour (so if Rise is $20 and saves 2 hours then it qualifies) then I am efficiently buying that hour back
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Tony the Tigger said:
Have you read this thread? The predictions/threats are all over the place.

To clarify: I've been "liking" most of the posts that simply state matter-of-factly that folks have decided with a clear head to cut costs - whether by substituting groceries for some sit-down dinners on property, taking less frequent trips, or not going at all. That all makes perfect sense to me. I've done Disney many different ways at different times of my life when I could afford less or more. I appreciate it when I can go at all, and I appreciate it all the more when I can go "first class." I don't typically care if any particular trip is the "be all, end all" because I know there will be more. I'm fortunate to, for now, live only a few hours away and to get FL resident discounts.

Where some folks lose me is when they seem to be acting out of spite, anger, class envy, entitlement (including entitlement to tell Disney what to do with their company just because they are or were a fan.)

I understand a little disappointment here and there. I understand nostalgia. I understand being priced out. I understand individual perception of less value than is worth going. On the whole for me, the good new things tend to balance out the good discontinued things. Not everyone will agree with that. Some will prefer the old Snow White attraction to the new one. Most will not. And then there's the waiting game whereby eventually most of those going will have known no other way - and the things they did know will change. That's not sad, it's just the way it is.

I still miss the Great Movie ride. I also genuinely like Runaway Railway in a different way. I still resent paying to park at a WDW resort. Others may not care.

They are packed, from what I read here, and they still have things to add back in from pre-COVID. And they seem to be adding those things back in fairly steadily. That may give one more family one more reason to go. It may not.

But they don't *owe* us anything but what is promised with admission. If current admission isn't worth it to some who have gone for a long time, they should feel fortunate for having gone regularly up to now, while so many never have and never will. There are other places to go, and I would argue it's healthy to go other places and not vacation in one spot your whole life. Just try not to sound so petty about it in the meantime, as if Disney raised prices "to get you." Go somewhere else. Come back or don't.
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I don’t bother processing “they’ll be sorry when they run out of customers!” Stuff

It’s been too long.

But that is the low hanging fruit take.

But - I’ve been told - that keeping the air in the tires on that place is a lot more complicated.

It has to have volume…some overtanned Napoleon sold snake oil to his devoted followers for a decade that “only the brand matters”…and they “want to lower attendance”.

Those are conveniently naive and incorrect stances.

The counter is always - like here - “I’ve been hearing about recessions for years…but it never comes!”

As if it’s a foreign concept? That we live in a world where there will always be a way to talk/rig out of huge global credit and price gouging crises.

So those peeps - some here - will be right ONLY if it’s a post recession world. That’s the gamble.

If not…If Wall Street runs out of schemes…then I’m not sure if we even need to debate Disney travelers for awhile.

And why that matters is what the bobs have done. They were previously recession insulated due to promos and reductions. But the Bobs have pushed it - my theory - past the price points where promos can stop the bleeding.

A 3-5% reduction is a huge loss…but the formula still could work.

A 15?…25%? The math collapses. I’m just saying what unfortunately is the reality behind the machine.

There are not 50,000,000 entries worth of “high wealth” people on this space rock that are gonna flock to a stripped wdw. That’s the real “myth”.

That’s not the design or market. And if Slaphead crashes it…it won’t matter to him.

Just be “alert”…not “alarmed”

Scale matters.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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MisterPenguin said:
Don't you know? Disney is immune to recessions, pandemics, government shutdowns, supply chain issues, inflation, hurricanes, and labor shortages.
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But that…is what is being said, selectively, to defend all their decisions…even the ones that stink on the smell test.

Combine that with the “selective excuses” from your list and we all up HIGH on the dust
 
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Lilofan

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MisterPenguin said:
Don't you know? Disney is immune to recessions, pandemics, government shutdowns, supply chain issues, inflation, hurricanes, and labor shortages.
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Immune to pandemics? This is misinformation. I don't recall all entertainment offerings / food locations were operational during that time or parks open during Ian. Fyi - a number of cast were permanently laid off and furloughed from jobs.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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dreday3 said:
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm sure you are insulting me. I was being funny, pretending we didn't technically pay.

But have at it, you aren't happy unless you're insulting someone...
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No matter what the product…I wouldn’t celebrate you being ripped off and flaunting it.

$40 a day on top of a $140 gate fee…plus the genie, Right?!?…is not “celebratory”
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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People want to compare Disney costs compared to other companies. That's fair.

And they also complain about the Genie+ cost increase. Really?

To compare: Uni's Maxpass starts at $80 per person per day. And since Maxpasses aren't scheduled, you can get a surge of guests going to the more popular rides at the same time making it a half hour wait.

I went to Uni 3 days last week and I was constantly muttering "Thank you, Disney for spending a billion dollars on NextGen" for a variety of reasons.*

*Not saying it's perfect or doesn't have issues.
 
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Big T 1963

Big T 1963

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Rumor has it that Big Bucks Bob wants to raise the price of the Happy Meals at McDonald's near Disney Springs too....
Welcome all to the Happiest Place on Earth and leave your wallet at the door MO MONEY MO MONEY MO MONEY
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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MisterPenguin said:
People want to compare Disney costs compared to other companies. That's fair.

And they also complain about the Genie+ cost increase. Really?

To compare: Uni's Maxpass starts at $80 per person per day. And since Maxpasses aren't scheduled, you can get a surge of guests going to the more popular rides at the same time making it a half hour wait.

I went to Uni 3 days last week and I was constantly muttering "Thank you, Disney for spending a billion dollars on NextGen" for a variety of reasons.*

*Not saying it's perfect or doesn't have issues.
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Max pass is guaranteed access to all the most in demand rides in the park…

What is genie?
 
bhg469

bhg469

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MisterPenguin said:
People want to compare Disney costs compared to other companies. That's fair.

And they also complain about the Genie+ cost increase. Really?

To compare: Uni's Maxpass starts at $80 per person per day. And since Maxpasses aren't scheduled, you can get a surge of guests going to the more popular rides at the same time making it a half hour wait.

I went to Uni 3 days last week and I was constantly muttering "Thank you, Disney for spending a billion dollars on NextGen" for a variety of reasons.*

*Not saying it's perfect or doesn't have issues.
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I was at universal on saturday.. It was by far the worst I have ever seen it between it being a holiday weekend and the early closure for HHN at studios. My last several visits there were as pleasant as can be, even without express pass.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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dreday3 said:
Sure.

(it is comforting to know you don't understand my posts either. phew.)
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I’ve learned - I’m sure the hard way - over the years two avoid 2 things on price increases days on forums:

1. Don’t laugh about it
2. Don’t make fun of people who care

Just some advice…do what you want
 

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