Price hike coming 10/9

[Chi84]

You can have a provision in a contract but that doesn’t much matter if your employees are angry enough and you can’t replace them nor can you function without them.

But, as I said, I am not sure this latest change will anger enough CMs for it to matter. If 100 march down World Dr, they’ll be fired and that’s that. I was saying it would be different theoretically if it were 10k CMs walking.

That’s not how no-strike provisions work or they would be meaningless.

 

[MouseEarsMom33]

I'm not saying it'd be super pleasant, but you could stay at a disney springs offsite hotel (cheaper than all stars) that is walkable to SSR to catch the Disney transportation to the parks. There are ways to do disney really really cheap, but obviously you're losing a lot of the convenience factor.

Many of the Disney Springs hotels actually have buses that run throughout the day (at least last time we went). Hilton Disney Springs also has the overpass that connects to Disney Springs.

For our first trip, in order to afford to go, we did a time share presentation through Hilton Grand Vacations. We got multiple nights for the cost of less than 1. And we got a gift card back. We had to do a 2 hour presentation. It was strange because we could not save for vacations at that time so we were not the right audience, but then they had us come back again the following year for a similar deal. The people who fill the time slots are not the same ones that are trying to sell the product. Lol

If I remember right the all stars was going to be ~$100 cheaper after you factor in resort fees, parking, ect.

Overall we went with the Hilton for a few reasons:

• We already decided on a rental car regardless so that price wasn't a factor. However, a Disney bus with a stroller/toddler can be quite tough so we would drive anyway. Thus, Disney transportation didn't matter to us.
• We really like Disney springs and will probably go there at least twice during our trip, the ability to walk there is a huge perk to us
• No way to guarantee a king room at the all-stars. Not a deal breaker, but still a plus for the Hilton when a second bed isn't needed (he still sleeps in a portable crib)
• Nicer/bigger looking hotel rooms (380 sqft vs 260sqft)
• Nicer looking lobby/grab and go food options. Not just 1 big cafeteria
• No "hike" to the food options, like you might at the value resorts. Hotel is more compact
• Kiddy pool actually looks better at Hilton (big pool doesn't matter for us)
• My son is young enough (he'll be about 21 months) that the big props of the all stars/ whimsy of the resort/room don't really matter.

Maybe I'm wrong and I will end up hating it and never staying there again!

In the past, I've stayed at the Beach Club, Boardwalk, Swan, Dolphin, All stars, Pop Centry, Universal's Royal Pacific, and the Fairfield Lake Buena Vista. So, the Hilton will be something new to try!

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In my opinion, I would stay at the Hilton properties in Disney Springs area instead of Value or Moderate. Rooms are nicer. But we use credit card points. I only like staying on property if it's Deluxe with close transportation to the parks.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Many of the Disney Springs hotels actually have buses that run throughout the day (at least last time we went). Hilton Disney Springs also has the overpass that connects to Disney Springs.

I believe they all do - Drury operates their own and the others share. I’ve used them as well but typically use Disney Springs / Saratoga Springs.

The overpass is not specific to the Hilton, it’s just right next to it (very convenient!) - but all hotels can access the sidewalk to the overpass.

In my opinion, I would stay at the Hilton properties in Disney Springs area instead of Value or Moderate.

If price is similar I’d much rather be at Pop Century for skyliner or Port Orleans for ambiance. If you gave me a free trip and I could pick any hotel it would be a toss up between Port Orleans Riverside and Animal Kingdom Lodge.

 

[mkt]

But, I’m not sure how many actually use Aspire.

I don't have numbers, but from what I've been led to believe, it's an extremely popular program.

I know in my office we have quite a few people whose undergrad and/or graduate degrees were paid for this way.

 

[Ayla]

To what extent who knows it’s just unfair they do this when the FASFA deadline was today of all days for many universities across the US. It stinks for both hourly and salaried employees I was so excited to start my Masters in Engineering I had put it off for so long because of the cost and timing. To only have started and now getting this notice hurts. I made the move to Florida permanently for the canceled Lake Nona project and thought nothing could get worst, now this. It’s just wrong.

I am so sorry they are doing this. My husband's employer paid for his Master's degree at a private university, so I totally understand what a benefit it is and how much it would hurt to have such a ridiculous cap put on it, right as the semester is starting and just beyond the FAFSA deadline. What a sleazy move.

 

[MouseEarsMom33]

If price is similar I’d much rather be at Pop Century for skyliner or Port Orleans for ambiance. If you gave me a free trip and I could pick any hotel it would be a toss up between Port Orleans Riverside and Animal Kingdom Lodge.

We stayed at Pop Century, but that was pre-skyliner and weren't a huge fan. We are now DVC, but Port Orleans is a moderate we might consider trying eventually, due to the ambiance.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

We stayed at Pop Century, but that was pre-skyliner and weren't a huge fan. We are now DVC, but Port Orleans is a moderate we might consider trying eventually, due to the ambiance.

what’s great about the skyliner is you are only a short and fun skyliner away from Carribean Beach and Riviera. I don’t use the food court at Pop - I go over to Spyglass Grill, etc.

Obviously it all depends on how you experience Disney - I’ve enjoyed staying at various Disney Springs hotels too. They all have pros and cons and as long as I’m on property I’m in a good place!

 

[Lilofan]

Being not 100% takeaway but being capped, this unfortunately is one way to meet Iger's goal of his multi billion dollar savings campaign that he directed the company to make it happen. What's next ? Take away the CM pet insurance ?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Then why would anyone be talking about a strike? What are the remedies for Disney if cast members violate the no-strike provision? Generally, when people agree to something in a contract that has some meaning.

The remedy is Disney could terminate them for cause. The thought experiment is what happens if everyone strikes.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

That’s not how no-strike provisions work or they would be meaningless.

No-strike provisions allow an employee to be terminated for cause if they strike. That’s reallly all they do.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

We had to do a 2 hour presentation. It was strange because we could not save for vacations at that time so we were not the right audience, but then they had us come back again the following year for a similar deal. The people who fill the time slots are not the same ones that are trying to sell the product. Lol

No, you were the right audience. They are predatory lenders who try to sign up financially unsophisticated people for loans they can’t afford to finance timeshares that are worth $1 on the resale market. Good job on not falling for it.

 

[FettFan]

Buy an AP, stay at All Stars, do cheap flights down.

Pledge their souls to Visa and MasterCard.

 

[Chi84]

No-strike provisions allow an employee to be terminated for cause if they strike. That’s reallly all they do.

So Disney would have no legal remedies against the union, no remedies against the striking workers other than firing them? That’s interesting. I wonder why they use those clauses at all.

 

[MouseEarsMom33]

No, you were the right audience. They are predatory lenders who try to sign up financially unsophisticated people for loans they can’t afford to finance timeshares that are worth $1 on the resale market. Good job on not falling for it.

When they brought up the $50000 price tag (and that was pre-Covid), we just laughed. Then it was high pressure sales that we had to buy during that meeting or we wouldn't have a chance to come back again.

If you are going to the presentation for the hotel deal, you just have to NOT go into that meeting with an open mind.

 

[Comped]

I don't have numbers, but from what I've been led to believe, it's an extremely popular program.

I know in my office we have quite a few people whose undergrad and/or graduate degrees were paid for this way.

It's an extremely popular program at least when I was at Rosen, I would often estimate that of the 3,000 or so students there at the time, well over a third, if not more, were CMs going through Aspire. From talking with some Deans and VPs at UCF during my grad school there, it was also popular in other programs as well, although I have less hard estimations for them...

 

[bmr1591]

Disney is already understaffed. To think they could randomly find 10,000 extra workers is ludicrous.

 

[Chi84]

Disney is already understaffed. To think they could randomly find 10,000 extra workers is ludicrous.

I’m still trying to figure out how 10,000 employees are going to strike. What are they going to demand? Or do they just stop working and figure it out later if they’re not fired?

 

[Lilofan]

So Disney would have no legal remedies against the union, no remedies against the striking workers other than firing them? That’s interesting. I wonder why they use those clauses at all.

Whatever the case the cast approved the contract and if cast strike they are fired.

 

[the_rich]

That’s not how no-strike provisions work or they would be meaningless.

I'm not going to get into specifics but there are things that can be done to be as effective as a strike without actually having one.

 

[Lilofan]

I'm not going to get into specifics but there are things that can be done to be as effective as a strike without actually having one.

I'm sure there are but are cast willing to do it? Nothing but crickets.