Price hike coming 10/9

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
That's a different story. It depends on how many are angry at this change.
Considering FL is not exactly a hotbed of many interested in pursuing higher education compared to the Northeast where many pursue , this will be ancient history in a matter of time.
 

the_rich

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But what would that accomplish? Who will be speaking to Disney for the cast members?
The union would. The members in theory would communicate to the union that they are unhappy with the change. The union would in turn communicate this to Disney and see what their response is. This is all dependent on a large number of CMS being unhappy.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
The union would. The members in theory would communicate to the union that they are unhappy with the change. The union would in turn communicate this to Disney and see what their response is. This is all dependent on a large number of CMS being unhappy.
Slim to near none.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
The union would. The members in theory would communicate to the union that they are unhappy with the change. The union would in turn communicate this to Disney and see what their response is. This is all dependent on a large number of CMS being unhappy.
The union agreed to a no-strike clause. I’m not too familiar with labor law but if the union acknowledged a work action of the type you’re describing, it seems they could be sued by Disney for breach of the bargaining agreement.

I’d be wary of those claiming no-strike provisions don’t mean anything.
 

the_rich

Well-Known Member
The union agreed to a no-strike clause. I’m not too familiar with labor law but if the union acknowledged a work action of the type you’re describing, it seems they could be sued by Disney for breach of the bargaining agreement.

I’d be wary of those claiming no-strike provisions don’t mean anything.
The union wouldn't have to acknowledge any action. They would just go to Disney and say you have a large portion of your workforce who is unhappy and then see their response. They would never officially put forward a work action.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
The union wouldn't have to acknowledge any action. They would just go to Disney and say you have a large portion of your workforce who is unhappy and then see their response. They would never officially put forward a work action.
I’m still unsure of what that would accomplish, but you seem to know more about the subject than I do so I’ll leave it there.

I’m sad to see so much of what Disney is doing these days. I doubt a strike will happen, but their actions will impact the quality of people they will attract. Quality seems to mean less to many companies these days.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I’m still unsure of what that would accomplish, but you seem to know more about the subject than I do so I’ll leave it there.

I’m sad to see so much of what Disney is doing these days. I doubt a strike will happen, but their actions will impact the quality of people they will attract. Quality seems to mean less to many companies these days.
Disney lessened their grooming guidelines to attract applicants to fill a number of roles. Now you see some cast in the parks and resorts with visible tattoos , males with shoulder length hair , long beards , cast wearing multiple jewelry , etc.
 

Epcot81Fan

Well-Known Member
Disney lessened their grooming guidelines to attract applicants to fill a number of roles. Now you see some cast in the parks and resorts with visible tattoos , males with shoulder length hair , long beards , cast wearing multiple jewelry , etc.
Exactly, once Disney dropped the standards and adopted a “fog the mirror” standard for their employees, it opens an endless supply of low talent applicants.

I will never understand why people cheered ending the higher standards that differentiated Disney for decades.

Good news is the local carnival employees will now get awesome benefits.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
Exactly, once Disney dropped the standards and adopted a “fog the mirror” standard for their employees, it opens an endless supply of low talent applicants.

I will never understand why people cheered ending the higher standards that differentiated Disney for decades.

Good news is the local carnival employees will now get awesome benefits.
Starting entry level pay to flip burgers , clean bathrooms , cashier at $20 but others in a non Disney work a tad more responsible role as a phlebotomist at the local hospital for $18 or $18 per hour TSA employee at MCO . CMs got a better deal.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I know college football conferences have realigned a lot lately, but none of those are “Northeast” as you originally framed the issue.
A number of Northeast high school seniors pursue higher education in the many small private colleges in the area and or other state / private univ at other parts of the country.
 

Epcot81Fan

Well-Known Member
Starting entry level pay to flip burgers , clean bathrooms , cashier at $20 but others in a non Disney work a tad more responsible role as a phlebotomist at the local hospital for $18 or $18 per hour TSA employee at MCO . CMs got a better deal.
Absolutely, Disney is incredibly overpaying for the level of talent they now hire.

They are losing on both ends.

Look for them to find ways to lower overall comp outside the contract in any way possible. Frankly, I’m surprised they just didn’t cancel the Aspire program completely.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
The union wouldn't have to acknowledge any action. They would just go to Disney and say you have a large portion of your workforce who is unhappy and then see their response. They would never officially put forward a work action.
I do have a question apart from the legalities. On a practical level, what would the union demand when speaking for the employees taking these strike-like actions?

Is the Disney Aspire program a part of the collective bargaining agreement?

Unions generally negotiate wages, hours, job protections, working conditions, health benefits, etc. These are the usual matters involved in the employment relationship.

If the union negotiates for college tuition for CMs would that mean it has to be included in the bargaining agreement? What would the CMs be demanding?
 

the_rich

Well-Known Member
I do have a question apart from the legalities. On a practical level, what would the union demand when speaking for the employees taking these strike-like actions?

Is the Disney Aspire program a part of the collective bargaining agreement?

Unions generally negotiate wages, hours, job protections, working conditions, health benefits, etc. These are the usual matters involved in the employment relationship.

If the union negotiates for college tuition for CMs would that mean it has to be included in the bargaining agreement? What would the CMs be demanding?
They could demand that the aspire program be part of the next contract. I'm assuming it isn't now since Disney was able to drastically change it. For the time being they could demand it be reinstated to what it was.
 

the_rich

Well-Known Member
I do have a question apart from the legalities. On a practical level, what would the union demand when speaking for the employees taking these strike-like actions?

Is the Disney Aspire program a part of the collective bargaining agreement?

Unions generally negotiate wages, hours, job protections, working conditions, health benefits, etc. These are the usual matters involved in the employment relationship.

If the union negotiates for college tuition for CMs would that mean it has to be included in the bargaining agreement? What would the CMs be demanding?
At my workplace everything is in our contract. If it isn't then the union negotiates it during the next one.
 

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