Thanks phoenicians
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That seems highly unusual. I've seen that happen at uni but I can't think of that happening at Wdw where construction commences well before announcement.
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Possible Attraction in France pavilion (Epcot) Update - new Attraction Greenlit
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MrHappy
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@marni1971, clemmo has a very good point. You and I, and many of our forum friends discussed a similar topic a few months ago - how Disney tends to over-promise through their concept art and announcements, then after some cuts and modifications for various reasons, we typically get a lesser version. We compared Uni's style vs Diz's style to announcements and additions. I guess I don't have a question or follow-up for you. I actually find it the better way to go.
MrHappy
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Oh, and I'll take this as a hint as the location/placement of the build
Sounds like the construction will be behind some stuff.
CrescentLake
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Perhaps with so much going on, they don't want to confuse guests? I work in PR, and it would make sense not to announce it until late...becasue right now announcements for additions are trickling out and muddying the waters. Agreed it would be unprecedented for Disney, but we'll know when construction starts, due to our insiders.
Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't be plugged to hell. Just saying if it's not there wouldn't be much to give it away to begin with.
MrHappy
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Right, but in recent history, they would announce (to take it to an extreme) "We are building a never-been-done before ride in Florida, it's going to have more 4D than anything you've ever experienced, it will look like this...." then they show concept art of a product (that looks different than the finished product). Then they start digging and building...a few years later, we get a much lesser version of what was originally announced. Still pretty great, but not what was announced.
csmat99
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Bite your tongue. There will be one more big ticket draw. Food and Wine festival will now become bottomless refills on drinks for a cost of 299.99 and voucher for ambulance to take you to ER.
P_Radden
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Hope this helps clear up some confusion in discussion from other threads. A couple of things to note on these maps:
1. Only Mexico, Norway, China and Japan occupy close to their entire pad. All the other current countries still have some room left for expansion on their existing pads.
2. I marked the locations of known attraction spaces in Germany, Italy, Japan and UK.
3. Rat is not confirmed to go where I have it marked, this is just my gut feeling.
4. Pads 7 and 8 are basically gone forever.
5. Pads 2 and 3 may as well be one big space now because of the restrictions due to fireworks storage near 2.
EDIT: Honestly I see now why only 3 new countries were being discussed. There is really only 3 spaces for new countries, pads 3, 4 and 5.
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Wouldn't a bottomless refill just get your shoes wet?
Princess Leia
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These look great!
If I may add- the space between Italy and USA cannot be built upon due to forced perception issues. Italy's attractions would have been in the back of the pavilion (I believe that there is a restaurant there now). Also, 2 could be built if it was covered like Mexico.
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999th Happy Haunt
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While I think a BatB ride has the potential to be better, I hope Rat goes in France so there's a chance for BatB in NF.
Thanks phoenicians
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Speaking of Mexico any word on if coco is going to take the place of Grand fiesta?
Thanks phoenicians
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BATB ride is going to Tokyo Disneyland as part of their expansion. If you google it you should see some of the concept art as well, it looks pretty good (like everything else in the Tokyo parks)
KrzyKtty
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They may be waiting to see how successful it is before moving on that.
Granted I can't see that preview without thinking of "Book of Life."
The area between Italy and America can be built if it uses forced perspective, too.
I thought @marni1971 said at all of 2 & 3 would have to be covered? I could be misremembering or he never made such a distinction.
Also, what's left of 2 & 3 is still big enough for two pavilions, from what I can see.
If they are putting in a single new country, I hope they use 3. The gap between China and Germany is the biggest area and could use something to break it up (sorry African Outpost). And if said pavilion did have a ride, it would be nicely located between the other rides (Mexico/Norway and, theoretically, UK/France).
For @marni1971 or anyone who knows, as a historical curiosity... do you know what the planned sites were for the announced WS pavilions of years past? i.e. Israel, Spain, Equatorial Africa? I remember reading that the possible Swiss pavilion was going to be between Germany and Italy.
2 and or 3 couldn't be fully outdoors. It would need some covering and protection along the canal side of the plot.
Africa next to the service canal and China. Spain between Africa and Germany. Switzerland between Germany and Italy. Costa Rica where China is. Russia moved around a bit - next to U.K., on the Africa plot, next to Mexico.