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Possible Attraction in France pavilion (Epcot) Update - new Attraction Greenlit

lazyboy97o

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I know, but still find it redundant. Out of the innumerable times I have been through my life, I have never spent more time there than the amount of time it takes to walk through it. That was even when we went with my parents as a child. But since a lot of foreigners go to the parks as well, guess it really isn't' for me. Granted they also have Old world USA in MK too...

Oh well, to each their own!
Have you never seen The American Adventure?
 

KrzyKtty

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Have you never seen The American Adventure?
See earlier reply to Marni where I admit that I forgot about it.

Granted, I guess that says something about its ranking in favorite rides for me that I forgot lol. But it is technically an achievement.
 

MrHappy

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So rat in 2019 in time for SWL if all goes well. They better get moving on construction asap to meet that deadline but its certainly doable assuming no major delays.
I guess, if the construction timeline allows (I have no idea), they'd want to announce it first with lots of hoopla before they start clearing the space. I would imagine they'll announce at D23 then start shoveling right after - a July announcement will give Pandora a little time to bask in the PR glow for 2 months by itself.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
I guess, if the construction timeline allows (I have no idea), they'd want to announce it first with lots of hoopla before they start clearing the space. I would imagine they'll announce at D23 then start shoveling right after - a July announcement will give Pandora a little time to bask in the PR glow for 2 months by itself.
Rat could be just months away from opening before day guests know anything is happening.
 

MrHappy

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That seems highly unusual. I've seen that happen at uni but I can't think of that happening at Wdw where construction commences well before announcement.
@marni1971, clemmo has a very good point. You and I, and many of our forum friends discussed a similar topic a few months ago - how Disney tends to over-promise through their concept art and announcements, then after some cuts and modifications for various reasons, we typically get a lesser version. We compared Uni's style vs Diz's style to announcements and additions. I guess I don't have a question or follow-up for you. I actually find it the better way to go.
 

CrescentLake

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That seems highly unusual. I've seen that happen at uni but I can't think of that happening at Wdw where construction commences well before announcement.
Perhaps with so much going on, they don't want to confuse guests? I work in PR, and it would make sense not to announce it until late...becasue right now announcements for additions are trickling out and muddying the waters. Agreed it would be unprecedented for Disney, but we'll know when construction starts, due to our insiders.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
@marni1971, clemmo has a very good point. You and I, and many of our forum friends discussed a similar topic a few months ago - how Disney tends to over-promise through their concept art and announcements, then after some cuts and modifications for various reasons, we typically get a lesser version. We compared Uni's style vs Diz's style to announcements and additions. I guess I don't have a question or follow-up for you. I actually find it the better way to go.
Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't be plugged to hell. Just saying if it's not there wouldn't be much to give it away to begin with.
 

MrHappy

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Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't be plugged to hell. Just saying if it's not there wouldn't be much to give it away to begin with.
Right, but in recent history, they would announce (to take it to an extreme) "We are building a never-been-done before ride in Florida, it's going to have more 4D than anything you've ever experienced, it will look like this...." then they show concept art of a product (that looks different than the finished product). Then they start digging and building...a few years later, we get a much lesser version of what was originally announced. Still pretty great, but not what was announced.
 

P_Radden

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Hope this helps clear up some confusion in discussion from other threads. A couple of things to note on these maps:

1. Only Mexico, Norway, China and Japan occupy close to their entire pad. All the other current countries still have some room left for expansion on their existing pads.
2. I marked the locations of known attraction spaces in Germany, Italy, Japan and UK.
3. Rat is not confirmed to go where I have it marked, this is just my gut feeling.
4. Pads 7 and 8 are basically gone forever.
5. Pads 2 and 3 may as well be one big space now because of the restrictions due to fireworks storage near 2.

EDIT: Honestly I see now why only 3 new countries were being discussed. There is really only 3 spaces for new countries, pads 3, 4 and 5.
 
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Princess Leia

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Hope this helps clear up some confusion in discussion from other threads. A couple of things to note on these maps:

1. Only Mexico, Norway, China and Japan occupy close to their entire pad. All the other current countries still have some room left for expansion on their existing pads.
2. I marked the locations of known attraction spaces in Germany, Italy, Japan and UK.
3. Rat is not confirmed to go where I have it marked, this is just my gut feeling.
4. Pads 7 and 8 are basically gone forever.
5. Pads 2 and 3 may as well be one big space now because of the restrictions due to fireworks storage near 2.

EDIT: Honestly I see now why only 3 new countries were being discussed. There is really only 3 spaces for new countries, pads 3, 4 and 5.
These look great!

If I may add- the space between Italy and USA cannot be built upon due to forced perception issues. Italy's attractions would have been in the back of the pavilion (I believe that there is a restaurant there now). Also, 2 could be built if it was covered like Mexico.
 
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KrzyKtty

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Are you guys talking about a BatB ride that already exists somewhere else? I don't know as much about the other parks as I should
 

clemmo

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These look great!

If I may add- the space between Italy and USA cannot be built upon due to forced perception issues. Italy's attractions would have been in the back of the pavilion (I believe that there is a restaurant there now). Also, 2 could be built if it was covered like Mexico.
Speaking of Mexico any word on if coco is going to take the place of Grand fiesta?
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
These look great!

If I may add- the space between Italy and USA cannot be built upon due to forced perception issues. Italy's attractions would have been in the back of the pavilion (I believe that there is a restaurant there now). Also, 2 could be built if it was covered like Mexico.
The area between Italy and America can be built if it uses forced perspective, too.

I thought @marni1971 said at all of 2 & 3 would have to be covered? I could be misremembering or he never made such a distinction.

Also, what's left of 2 & 3 is still big enough for two pavilions, from what I can see.
 
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