mickeysshoes
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For my husband putting his knife in his pocket is like me putting on my glasses. HABIT.
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Pocket knives at the parks
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slappy magoo
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The bag checks and cursory glances at clips on pants will do precious little to stop people who truly want to cause criminal mischief or worse at WDW from trying. That's a given.
But WDW is private property. If you were going to someone's house - even if it's a house you've gone to dozens, hundreds of times before, but this time is the time they go "hey, if you've got a knife on you, would you mind leaving it in your car or something," would you? I mean after all, it's not like there aren't knives in the house, probably bigger and deadlier ones. And it's not like you anticipate a need for you to use your knife. So who's it harming by you keeping your knife on you?
Nonetheless, I'm willing to bet you'd adhere to the wishes of your host and leave the knife in your car, or even at home. Because it's not your house and you don't want to make people uncomfortable.
Perhaps not the best analogy, but we all go to WDW acknowledging that, while not a residence, it's not public property either, so whatever their rules are, may as well follow 'em. After all, we're voluntarily putting a thing on our wrists that lets them track our movements, know where we intend to go and approximately when, customizing things to happen to react specifically to us. So we can't exactly complain that not being allowed to carry a weapon is an infringement on our freedoms.
But WDW is private property. If you were going to someone's house - even if it's a house you've gone to dozens, hundreds of times before, but this time is the time they go "hey, if you've got a knife on you, would you mind leaving it in your car or something," would you? I mean after all, it's not like there aren't knives in the house, probably bigger and deadlier ones. And it's not like you anticipate a need for you to use your knife. So who's it harming by you keeping your knife on you?
Nonetheless, I'm willing to bet you'd adhere to the wishes of your host and leave the knife in your car, or even at home. Because it's not your house and you don't want to make people uncomfortable.
Perhaps not the best analogy, but we all go to WDW acknowledging that, while not a residence, it's not public property either, so whatever their rules are, may as well follow 'em. After all, we're voluntarily putting a thing on our wrists that lets them track our movements, know where we intend to go and approximately when, customizing things to happen to react specifically to us. So we can't exactly complain that not being allowed to carry a weapon is an infringement on our freedoms.
BigTxEars
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I have no issue with WDW banning whatever they want to ban, it's their park and they should set the rules. I can choose to go or not based on those rules if I want.
I am just surprised that so many people on here consider them a weapon. In Texas it is a standard tool that so many people carry daily. Maybe it's a region thing?
When we carry a weapon in Texas it's a firearm. Those I agree with being banned from the parks.
HRHPrincessAriel
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You say that but I don't know anyone beyond my FIL that carries one.
flynnibus
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It is soci-economic thing. How you were raised, what you did vs paying people to do, where you were raised, etc.
Beholder
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This
rob0519
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Not everyone was raised the same. While I don't wear a knife on my belt and see no reason to ever bring a blade that size to an amusement park, as along as the knife conforms to park policies I have no right, only an opinion, to question the wisdom of those who choose to do so. Should that knife somehow accidentally injure someone however, I'm sure both the owner and WDW would be named in the lawsuit.
I don't exactly carry one to trim my finger nails lol.
I carry a firearm for personal protection on trips, not a pocket knife and before you go any further, it stays in the resort room in the safe the entire trip until I go home.
I didn't realize we had so many over overly protective/soft people here. Its a pocket knife not a machete.
If you all think my 3" knife is a weapon then so is,
pens
pencils
sunglasses (i've seen people get stabbed with the arms from your glasses = deadly weapon)
car/house keys
canes
crutches
umbrellas
floss
any type of bag/purse with a strap
belts
pillows (smoother someone)
OMG NOT TO MENTION ALL THE PLASTIC/METAL KNIFES IN EVERY RESTAURANT ON PROPERTY!
C'mon people really!
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
I'm pretty lethal with a turkey leg, but then they are anyway.
UncleMike101
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A personal weapon is anything that can be lifted by a human.
People have been killed with Bic pens and lead pencils. (I've seen the autopsy photos.)
A man was killed not too long ago with a womans high heeled shoe.
The Bible says Cain slew Abel with a rock.
Wanna ban rocks???
The only unarmed humans, are humans with no arms.
Or legs. (People have been kicked to death too.)
People have been killed with Bic pens and lead pencils. (I've seen the autopsy photos.)
A man was killed not too long ago with a womans high heeled shoe.
The Bible says Cain slew Abel with a rock.
Wanna ban rocks???
The only unarmed humans, are humans with no arms.
Or legs. (People have been kicked to death too.)
IWantMyMagicBand
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The "need" to carry a weapon is the one reason my husband and I keep turning down job offers in the USA. I have no idea why anyone would want to carry a knife or gun in an amusement park packed with children.I'm obviously very soft but it makes me nervous, really nervous. You may be a sensible individual but what about the nutjob who I won't let take my place in a parade spot? We see full on arguments in parks, it won't be long before someone gets injured by a weapon because the big bad wolf couldn't get his spot before someone else. If you're ever in the UK, here is our law on knives:
https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife
and our firearms law:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/firearms-law-guidance-to-the-police-2012
https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife
and our firearms law:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/firearms-law-guidance-to-the-police-2012
Tonka's Skipper
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GEE JUST BECUASE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING,DOES NOT NESSASRILY MEAN YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING.
Since all the items you mentioned have other purposes in a theme park, they are really not to the point.
There is no reasonable reason to carry a knife/weapon into a theme park, so why do it and risk whatever may happen. Is it likely it would ever be used as a weapon? ...no of course not. Could it drop to the ground at some point a small child could get it and hurt themselves or others?.....no not likely, but why take the chance.
So this 6'2" guy that is overly protective/soft, that he cuts and splits 6 cord of firewood very fall at the tender age of 64.............begs the question................Are you so scared, timid and worried, you feel you need to bring a pocket knife or other knife/weapon into a theme park?
C'mom on folks...really! WDW is such a violent and unsafe place!
Just saying.........
AKK
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DManRightHere
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A pocket knife is a tool, the bigger lock blades can be weapons. Aren't 3" blades allowed on planes now? Along with ice picks, hockey sticks, and 6" screwdrivers? Lol
I don't think I've ever carried a pocket knife in the park, once a security guard was questioning me about the camera case strapped to my belt. I guess he thought it was a 22 pistol holster?
I would carry my knife if I knew there would not be any issues.
I don't think I've ever carried a pocket knife in the park, once a security guard was questioning me about the camera case strapped to my belt. I guess he thought it was a 22 pistol holster?
I would carry my knife if I knew there would not be any issues.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Weird conversation going on here.
A couple of points.
1. A pocket knife is a deadly weapon. No way to talk around that. As for what else constitutes a weapon, that's not really what this thread was about. Can a pencil be a weapon? Sure. Not terrible effective as a weapon though.
2. I get that some people carry them as habit. I just don't see how useful they are in MK. I always have a tape measure with me. But I don't bring it to the parks bc it's not useful there.
3. Maybe I'm wrong here, but it seems like the group being over sensitive on this issue is the knife carriers.
Anyways, carry on.
Ps. I don't particularly care either way. Would I prefer doomsday prepper guy not have a knife in his unbalanced hand? Yes. But 99.99% of the time I won't know about it anyway.
A couple of points.
1. A pocket knife is a deadly weapon. No way to talk around that. As for what else constitutes a weapon, that's not really what this thread was about. Can a pencil be a weapon? Sure. Not terrible effective as a weapon though.
2. I get that some people carry them as habit. I just don't see how useful they are in MK. I always have a tape measure with me. But I don't bring it to the parks bc it's not useful there.
3. Maybe I'm wrong here, but it seems like the group being over sensitive on this issue is the knife carriers.
Anyways, carry on.
Ps. I don't particularly care either way. Would I prefer doomsday prepper guy not have a knife in his unbalanced hand? Yes. But 99.99% of the time I won't know about it anyway.
flynnibus
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The weapon is whatever the intended person intends on using. A folded pocket knife is less dangerous than your pen in your pocket. People are hypersensitive to anything *THEY* believe is dangerous. Yet they overlook the very simple point that the danger is the person, not the folded knife.
It's value is what you make of it. But do you filter everything out because it might not be useful? Be honest here, the reason people don't want it there is not because they don't think it's useful, it's because they think it's going to be used as a weapon.
It's the reaction to the action. Imagine if someone scolded you for bringing your smart device to the parks... because why on earth would you need that while on vacation? Those are only used by hackers!!! It's dangerous in case you decided to go postal and hack something.
PhotoDave219
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Wanna See a Magic Trick?
I thought the issue was more the "bro" choker that is attached to the sunglasses.
Clearly youve never landed on your keys wrong.
Just the ones with swords in them.
But Tiny Tim!
Hey, I've got a movie starring Julie Andrews for you....
Who Flosses anymore?
The leather goods shall be collected for the performers.
NSFW.
Smoother? Like Barry White Smooth? Thats also NSFW.
flynnibus
Premium Member
All the more reason to educate and train people how to be responsible... not retreat into bubbles where we think no one can ever possibly do harm.
Every household used to have guns.. and kids survived. How? Because they were brought up with them.. not kept away from them. Kind of like alcohol laws in the EU vs the US huh?
Christmas 2020... Dad is required to open all packages only with a butter knife... because the nanny mob thought bringing a knife to christmas was just insane!
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