Pocket knives at the parks

[R W B]

GEE JUST BECUASE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING,DOES NOT NESSASRILY MEAN YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING.

Since all the items you mentioned have other purposes in a theme park, they are really not to the point.

There is no reasonable reason to carry a knife/weapon into a theme park, so why do it and risk whatever may happen. Is it likely it would ever be used as a weapon? ...no of course not. Could it drop to the ground at some point a small child could get it and hurt themselves or others?.....no not likely, but why take the chance.

So this 6'2" guy that is overly protective/soft, that he cuts and splits 6 cord of firewood very fall at the tender age of 64.............begs the question................Are you so scared, timid and worried, you feel you need to bring a pocket knife or other knife/weapon into a theme park?

C'mom on folks...really! WDW is such a violent and unsafe place!

Just saying.........

AKK

Yes I went over board on my "overly soft" comment but that's the thing, it's not for personal protection, it's a tool not a weapon. I don't consider it a weapon at all and to be honest no matter where I was if I ever got into an altercation with someone I probably wouldn't even grab it because I don't see it as a self defense weapon and I wouldn't think of grabbing it. Now if someone asks if somebody has a knife to open something with, I immediately reach for it and offer it.

 

[FettFan]

Maybe Security should make you leave your hands outside of the Park.
It sounds like you would use them as a deadly weapon.
As I stated before, there's no such thing as "unarmed" people.
Unless they have no arms......

Unarmed folk can be plenty deadly. Check out His Unconquerable Enemy by W. C. Morrow.

 

[flynnibus]

Except the ones that didn't.

Seriously. You can't believe there was never a gun-related accident before the 21st century, can you?

People also fell off their bikes and died. I never said they were harmless.. I said people lived around them (including children). The idea of a 'bubble world' does not work. People will still do human things.. and those looking to harm someone will still harm them. This is not a subject of 'chamber capacity' or 'military vs civilian' use when it comes to scale. This is about people seeing KNIFE and freaking out.

Can you imagine if someone has the nerve to pack a STRAIGHT RAZOR to shave with in their luggage? Can you imagine what would happen if that got into the wrong hands?!!?

 

[R W B]

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I thought the issue was more the "bro" choker that is attached to the sunglasses.



Clearly youve never landed on your keys wrong.



Just the ones with swords in them.



But Tiny Tim!



Hey, I've got a movie starring Julie Andrews for you....



Who Flosses anymore?



The leather goods shall be collected for the performers.



NSFW.



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Hahahahahaha thanks!

 

[Communicore]

I carried a knife too when I was a CM it was also in my backpack at all times. Actually I kept my knife in my pocket when I was assigned to cook nuggets and fries as that helps in opening the fries as well as the nuggets boxes. It also helped in breaking down the boxes that contained the cornbread (I was a Cosmic Ray's CM when the menu changed to the "Boston Market" wannabe menu on the chicken side lol)

 

[flynnibus]

I carried a knife too when I was a CM it was also in my backpack at all times. Actually I kept my knife in my pocket when I was assigned to cook nuggets and fries as that helps in opening the fries as well as the nuggets boxes. It also helped in breaking down the boxes that contained the cornbread (I was a Cosmic Ray's CM when the menu changed to the "Boston Market" wannabe menu on the chicken side lol)

OMG.. I can't imagine the horror your other employees must have felt knowing you kept such a dangerous weapon around you. And thank got that pocket knife never turned you into a criminal! You must have been one of the lucky ones!

 

[GeneralZod]

This is a fascinating conversation. I had no idea that we had now gotten to the point of being afraid of pointy tools.

 

[UncleMike101]

Yes Sir, I agree, I have my hands and they are used for many things. I don't bringing them anywhere to hurt any one.

But to the point, my hands could not fire a bullet into any other innocents person, because I was so arrogant and stupid as to bringing one of my handguns to a theme park, any theme park.

AKK

My point is, that if someone is intent on committing a violent act against another human, the means to do so are never absent.
No object has ever killed a human being of it's own accord.
It takes a person intent upon harming another to accomplish that.

 

[flynnibus]

People fear what they do not understand.

If you've never had to use a pocket knife on even a semi-regular basis... you're going to be more scared of other people using them.

 

[R W B]

Again, there is no need for a knife in a theme park.

Seeing talk of guns I can see where this thread may end up.

So I guess theirs no need for the mother of 3 bring her own first aid kit in the parks since their s a first aid station there too right? Or how about the poweraid she brings, it's not needed either since they sell drinks there?

Just because you "think" it's not needed doesn't mean everyone else does too. That's your opinion and its your right to have one, I have mine too though.

JUST pray it doesn't cause a problem. If it was my family that was hurt, because you brought firearms into a theme park, they would be prying my hands from your dead neck!

Yes Sir, I agree, I have my hands and they are used for many things. I don't bringing them anywhere to hurt any one.

But to the point, my hands could not fire a bullet into any other innocents person nor could they be dropped or loss, because I was so arrogant and stupid as to bringing one of my handguns to a theme park, any theme park.

AKK

She's joking sir, theirs no way she conceals 2 firearms lol.

Also, your hands is exactly what fire bullets from a gun, the gun doesn't fire by itself.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I have no problem with pocketknives. Lots of people carry them and the people who would carry them into a themepark are not the people you necessarily need to worry about.

Firearms are a different matter. I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole in this conversation but suffice to say… I think we all agree there is no need for any weapon of any sort at the Walt Disney World resort.

Of course… If you think a switchblade is a pocketknife, well you will end up talking with the orange county sheriffs office about that.

 

[FettFan]

Still, there is no reason to bring a knife to a theme park....this is really the bottom!

Actually, I would argue that there is a reason: Lunch.

That hamburger can easily feed two people, and the plastic utensils they have at the bar just can't cut it.
Literally.
I mean it, you try cutting one of those burgers in half with a Disney plastic butterknife and it pretty much just tears the thing up.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

The arguement was 'its not needed' - you don't need your car... Disney provides a bus.



A vehicle is many orders of magnitiude more dangerous.. yet we let people bring them and carry the keys.. that could 'fall into the wrong hands'. Why is that any different? Because we've taught people how to be responsible with cars.. instead of panicing and trying to keep them away from everyone for the 'danger' they pose.



Your opinion. Me, I grow rather tired of using my teeth to remove merchandise tags.. or trying to open that stubborn bag.. or needing to cut that string from my clothing... etc etc etc.

Ok Flynn we will have to agree to disagree, fair enough. However there is always all those CMs at the counters, more then willing to cut the tags or open the packing for you!

AKK

 

[xdan0920]

The weapon is whatever the intended person intends on using. A folded pocket knife is less dangerous than your pen in your pocket. People are hypersensitive to anything *THEY* believe is dangerous. Yet they overlook the very simple point that the danger is the person, not the folded knife.



It's value is what you make of it. But do you filter everything out because it might not be useful? Be honest here, the reason people don't want it there is not because they don't think it's useful, it's because they think it's going to be used as a weapon.



It's the reaction to the action. Imagine if someone scolded you for bringing your smart device to the parks... because why on earth would you need that while on vacation? Those are only used by hackers!!! It's dangerous in case you decided to go postal and hack something.

A knife IS a weapon though. Even a 3 inch one is a weapon, and a deadly one at that. This being a family friendly board, I won't go into the hows and whys it's a weapon, but it is. A pen is not a weapon, it's a pen. Yes, someone can turn it into a weapon, but it's difficult and ineffective for the most part. A pocket knife is a weapon, I am not sure why this is some controversial stance.

There is a balance between something being useful and that same thing making guest uncomfortable and feeling in danger. Taking your smart phone example, the uses of the phone for the general pop, far outweigh the potential for danger/uncomfortableness. I fail to see how the same can be said of a pocket knife.

 

[R W B]

Actually, I would argue that there is a reason: Lunch.

That hamburger can easily feed two people, and the plastic utensils they have at the bar just can't cut it.
Literally.
I mean it, you try cutting one of those burgers in half with a Disney plastic butterknife and it pretty much just tears the thing up.

Wait wait wait...you mean Disney GIVES you knives???? And anyone can walk up there to get one or 6 at any given time???? What are we going to do???

Lol

 

[GeneralZod]

Ok Flynn we will have to agree to disagree, fair enough. However there is always all those CMs at the counters, more then willing to cut the tags or open the packing for you!

AKK

I got a kick out of picturing myself with my son's stuffed Mickey, looking at the tag, then looking up proclaiming "I need an adult!!".

 

[FettFan]

Yes Sir, I agree, I have my hands and they are used for many things.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Yes I went over board on my "overly soft" comment but that's the thing, it's not for personal protection, it's a tool not a weapon. I don't consider it a weapon at all and to be honest no matter where I was if I ever got into an altercation with someone I probably wouldn't even grab it because I don't see it as a self defense weapon and I wouldn't think of grabbing it. Now if someone asks if somebody has a knife to open something with, I immediately reach for it and offer it.

No problem R W B and I responded a bit hard.

I understand your point I just don't see a need for a knife, pocket or otherwise in a theme park.

We can just agree to disagree!

AKK

 

[slappy magoo]

People also fell off their bikes and died. I never said they were harmless.. I said people lived around them (including children). The idea of a 'bubble world' does not work. People will still do human things.. and those looking to harm someone will still harm them. This is not a subject of 'chamber capacity' or 'military vs civilian' use when it comes to scale. This is about people seeing KNIFE and freaking out.

Can you imagine if someone has the nerve to pack a STRAIGHT RAZOR to shave with in their luggage? Can you imagine what would happen if that got into the wrong hands?!!?

You wrote "Every household used to have guns.. and kids survived." I was merely pointing out that some kids didn't. Just like now. There are plenty of households with guns that don't wind up scenes of homicides, suicides or grisly accidents. True they're multiple times more likely to be one of those things, but that doesn't mean thy will be. But to write "Every household used to have guns.. and kids survived" implies that kids dying from the result of guns being in the house is a new thing. It's not.

I will agree that the sturm und drang of security checkpoints is by and large illusory - people ho wish to cause mayhem will be able to Macguyver a weapon out of something most consider innocuous. But of course that means a knife-even a small knife-could PROBABLY be Macguyvered into some sort of deadly stabbing device if the person wielding it is dedicated to the plan of stabbing someone. So if a corporation says "please don't bring knives onto property we own," the response, instead of "what? This little thing?" ought to be "your house, your rules, whatever you say." Anything else is irrelevant. I'm sure the OP who owns the knife is an upright citizen, would only use the knife to do something heroic like slash the seat belt of a person having a heart attack who can't get out of a safey harness. Still irrelevant.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Technically there is no reason to drive to the theme parks either.. but one person's opinion on what is practical or not is not reason to force everyone else to think the same way.

I beg to differ. I drive to the theme parks because my bicycle just is not practical.