Enchantâmes
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You're just an internet TROLL. You clearly have nothing better to do with your life except post negative comments. If you love Disneyland so much, then GO THERE, we won't miss you at all!
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PHOTOS - We go inside Be Our Guest Restaurant
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Castle Cake Apologist
Well-Known Member
Exhibit A:
The domed part in the middle is actually just a painting.
Now, just speaking for myself: I'm not really bothered by the lack of a dome or the shape of the room, and I don't think it is a big deal that it doesn't have the illusion of appearing exactly like the film. I do think the ballroom would look even more accurate if they had given the ceiling around the mural the same color and same gold trim you see in the film, but it doesn't diminish the elegance of the space.
However, I do see where some of the people who are reacting negatively are coming from, and I think the vitriol that is being directed towards them is kind of boorish.
The ceiling pictured is muuuuch higher than the ceiling of BoG and the area covered by the tromp illusion is much more condensed. You're way too close to the ceiling in BoG. The illusion simply would not have worked on such a low and long ceiling. Again, if there had been any way to dome the ceiling or create the illusion of a dome, Imagineering would have done it. It's the most recognizable feature of the ballroom, they didn't fail to include it because they wanted to ruin the place. They changed the ceiling because they had to change the shape of the room to make it work as a large restaurant and it probably could not have supported a dome, or a dome would have presented sightline issues. We don't work for Imagineering, we don't know why it wasn't included. Please give me a logical reason that they would not have included it if they were able to.
I find the comparisons to the artistic liberties taken with Hogwarts out of necessity extremely valid and think it further proves the agenda of these needlessly negative people, since they hold it in such high esteem and do nothing but spit venom at Disney for being forced to make similar concessions. Very telling.
flynnibus
Premium Member
And then we'd hear all the complaints about using paint vs building a real dome, etc. It's absence doesn't take away from the environment or experience IMO.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
While I won't say its above WWOHP, I definitely think we wouldn't see the level of detail we're seeing without the competition that WWOHP offered. I could be completely wrong but that's the way it seems.
The photos I've seen so far are...dare I say it...DisneySea quality of detail, save for a few minor nitpicky things.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I think we've seen this from WDI prior to WWOHP. The trend has been to detail, details, details.. to the point of obcene while the actual attraction experience is debatable to some. This has been seen in everything.. from M&Gs.. to hotels.. to attractions.
Example.. City Hall
Example.. water features on Castaway Cay, BLT, Disneyland Hotel, etc
Example.. Paradise Pier, BVS, Toy Story Mania, all the way back to DAK
I think WDI has lost it's focus a bit, and is so obsessed with the visible details they are losing the idea these are supporting roles to the experience you are trying to ultimately get the guest to do, and desire to repeat. This has lead to extremely beautiful, but some what hollow experiences from the company over the last decade.
However some of the things from WWOHP are dead ringers... like the signature theme foods (exploited at Cars Land and in NFE, etc). I'm sure they felt pressure to have that sort of immersive atmosphere in a post-WWOHP world.. but I think it falls right into trap WDI has been in for some time.
Reenforcing this is what Disney promotes in the community. Just go back and look at all the blog posts, etc.. its all about the scene/set details and explaining them... instead of the actual attraction experience.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Utter crap is not outside the realm of Walt Disney Imagineering (not saying this is the case with Fantasyland). I am not going to simply give Imagineering the benefit of the doubt because I do not thin they have the track record that warrants such a position. I think the lack of doming gets to a point flynnibus makes about over-focusing on detail. I think this is likely what happened. There was such an obsession with matching the decorative ornamentation, that the sense of spatial grandeur was missed in the process of focusing on ornamental grandeur.
People? Which people? I see one other person posting who, to be frank, does not seem to be held in high esteem by many. If you think I have an agenda, be forthright and say so, do not hide behind vague accusations.
Again, who are these people? I do not see much support for my view being vocalized. I understand the limitations of a minimum six story space being built in the middle of a theme park. The whole reason I mention tromp-l'œil is because it is an effect I fully expected to be implemented.
This is very much what I think happened to produce this interpretation of the Ballroom. I think they missed the spacial experience by focus on the ornamental beauty (of which the facility is full) of the place.
iheartdisney91
Well-Known Member
Really don't understand how anyone could not find this to be stunning. It looks superb and i can not wait to see it in person! it looks incredible, and i'm really proud of our imaginears, and i'm happy we have it now in our parks.
rioriz
Well-Known Member
IF to Disneysea level then it is above...that place sets the standard...but i also agree with flynn
Becky Cannon
New Member
this restaurant defiantly not a dressed up high school cafeteria. I know that in my high school it did not look like this restaurant. The vision of WDI was on spot, once to come and see it all together i am sure that you will see it different.
Becky Cannon
New Member
how does it not look like the movie? as i recall the ballroom from what I can see looks a lot like it.
Becky Cannon
New Member
it is a restaurant, it is going to have table and chairs.I have to say that I don't see Beast's Castle in here :S
The lobby is a bit out of theme... the ballroom is good but looks very busy of chairs and tables
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
Exhibit A:
The domed part in the middle is actually just a painting.
Now, just speaking for myself: I'm not really bothered by the lack of a dome or the shape of the room, and I don't think it is a big deal that it doesn't have the illusion of appearing exactly like the film. I do think the ballroom would look even more accurate if they had given the ceiling around the mural the same color and same gold trim you see in the film, but it doesn't diminish the elegance of the space.
However, I do see where some of the people who are reacting negatively are coming from, and I think the vitriol that is being directed towards them is kind of boorish.
Love your sig!
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
This looks as stunning as the interior of the Carthay Circle!
But yeah, I, too, REALLY wanna see the West Wing!
But yeah, I, too, REALLY wanna see the West Wing!
JungleTrekFan
Active Member
That is what my friends at BOG are all saying, I personally think i like the west wing the most.
The restaurant as a whole is truly revolutionary for the company with its scale, use of technology, level of detail, and even with its menu. Which lets be realistic, had not been brought to MK due to the need for very efficient and thus simpler restaurants. I really am amazed at everything thats being put into this restaurant, especially all the amazing cast members. I can’t wait for the day that i’ll be able to sit in this beautiful restaurant.
SleepingMonk
Well-Known Member
Entrance and lobby = A+
Dining area = C
Dining area = C
SirNim
Well-Known Member
Cost-benefit analysis.
Actually my high school cafeteria was VERY nice. So I guess your first statement is shredded apart on items that you know nothing of. It looks like a dolled up nice high school cafeteria all the way. Better walls and ceiling. That is about it. I hope my opinion changes upon seeing it in person but if it is anything like that monstrosity of StoryBook Circus then it might only get worse.
Captain Neo
Well-Known Member
No I just know better
Millionaire2K
Active Member
It screams CASINO to me. Put a lot of slots where the tables are.