tirian
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The budgets for Main Street were spread out, but I don’t know what’s happening with the carousel. Large companies typically stretch larger projects to distribute the financial hits.
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News PHOTOS - Prince Charming Regal Carrousel behind scrims for refurbishment
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tirian
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Before everyone gangs up on @MerlinTheGoat , remember that it took Disney almost THREE YEARS to fix the balancing hats on the hat pirate in POTC and just over a year and a half to fix the Italian gondolier in IASW.
If you’ve followed the parks long enough, you know they have a track record of doing the exact same sort of long-term refurbs he’s suggesting with the carousel. I don’t know what’s causing the hangup, but I can tell that you that based on the Main Street refurb, several other extended ones, the broken FX in Dinosaur, and the Imagination pavilion that came >>thisclose<< to being shut down to save operating expenses (without an approved replacement attraction), this sort of thing happens frequently.
Fighting over whether or not he’s 100% certain of his own conjecture is immature and ignores a long track record of similar decisions.
If you’ve followed the parks long enough, you know they have a track record of doing the exact same sort of long-term refurbs he’s suggesting with the carousel. I don’t know what’s causing the hangup, but I can tell that you that based on the Main Street refurb, several other extended ones, the broken FX in Dinosaur, and the Imagination pavilion that came >>thisclose<< to being shut down to save operating expenses (without an approved replacement attraction), this sort of thing happens frequently.
Fighting over whether or not he’s 100% certain of his own conjecture is immature and ignores a long track record of similar decisions.
tirian
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No! Don’t give them ideas!The tall scrim is to hide the new fiberglass adornments that when finished will gives the carousel a snow-capped winter look. The design will also feature dangling icicles from the ride's Regal-like cresting. The color scheme will remain mostly the same except for the horses and poles which will be either painted or recast to resemble "ice" sculptures. The final changes will replace the music with a calliope rendition of "Let it Go!" and "Do you want to build a Snowman" that accompanies dancing flurries of snow pumped out from newly installed snow-machines. While the carousel is currently operational; it is expected to close briefly to apply those changes. It will reopen with a new name in time for The Magic Kingdom's 50th Anniversary celebration, or so I heard.
jakeman
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Respectfully disagree as he is making assumptions and presenting them as fact with no basis other than your statement of a completely different project.
You don't overhear a chef at an Italian restaurant talking about ravioli then speak with authority on how much cilantro should be in a burrito.
GAH!!!!!!!!!!
While the current iteration is meh, it's better than it being shut down completely with no replacement approved. But really, when I think about it... it wouldn't surprise me anymore. 
Kman101
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Merlin brought up valid points, but that wasn't really what the discussion was. It was more the usual complaining about scrims. Most of us are well aware they drag their feet. But at the same time, we also don't know everything that goes on for every project. Do I think some things could be done overnight? Sure. I think they probably could go faster, but it's easy to say that, but I don't know all of the facts with each project. I know it's fun to always say they drag things out, but sometimes actual problems arise. Do I think that's often the case? No. Just saying we don't know everything.
But whining about scrims being up and talking about what Merlin is, they're related of course, but they're two different discussions.
But whining about scrims being up and talking about what Merlin is, they're related of course, but they're two different discussions.
tirian
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Spirit and Marni reported that plan about the same time I did. CMs were trained to work other attractions in Future World. It almost happened.GAH!!!!!!!!!!
Kman101
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Spirit and Marni heard about that about the same time I did. CMs were trained to work other attractions in Future World. It almost happened.
I wish I could say this would have surprised me. But at the same time I just shake my head. Who makes these calls? Why do they run WDW like it's going out of business? It's so annoying, lol
Spirit and Marni reported that plan about the same time I did. CMs were trained to work other attractions in Future World. It almost happened.
Probably during my (unintentional) hiatus from the site.
MerlinTheGoat
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I never complained about the inherent existence of scrims and work being done, you must have substantially misinterpreted my post if you thought that. Either that, or you lumped me in with someone who never wants refurbs to occur.
Far from it though, I am more comforted to know ANY work and upkeep is being done than not. It's better than not refurbing something. I've got a long history of complaining about WDW's poor maintenance.
My issue is that this and especially the Main Street work are taking an uncommonly long time compared to how things used to be. And I was led to believe by comments from people like WDW1974, Marni1971, tirian and others that this was actually avoidable and is Disney's fault (not because there's a problem with getting materials or labor in a timely manner). This seemingly backed up by the relatively far greater speed and lower cost in which Universal has managed to build in recent years.
If anyone has an alternative answer as to why construction is taking so long, i'm going to be much more receptive to a respectful explanation from someone who has experience with this sort of thing than childish insults from a troll (not referring to kman btw).
Anyways I appreciate the comment tirian. I didn't intend this to become a turd flinging match and regret dragging you into it.
Far from it though, I am more comforted to know ANY work and upkeep is being done than not. It's better than not refurbing something. I've got a long history of complaining about WDW's poor maintenance.
My issue is that this and especially the Main Street work are taking an uncommonly long time compared to how things used to be. And I was led to believe by comments from people like WDW1974, Marni1971, tirian and others that this was actually avoidable and is Disney's fault (not because there's a problem with getting materials or labor in a timely manner). This seemingly backed up by the relatively far greater speed and lower cost in which Universal has managed to build in recent years.
If anyone has an alternative answer as to why construction is taking so long, i'm going to be much more receptive to a respectful explanation from someone who has experience with this sort of thing than childish insults from a troll (not referring to kman btw).
Anyways I appreciate the comment tirian. I didn't intend this to become a turd flinging match and regret dragging you into it.
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tirian
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I never took it the wrong way. No regrets.
jakeman
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You received a logical and clear explanation from someone who has a generation of experience in the Florida construction industry and you immediately rebuffed it with an anecdotal tale of your personal experience and an observation of your neighbor.
You are not receptive to alternative explanations.
MerlinTheGoat
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I did not rebuff his comment at all, I asked for clarification and actually gave his subsequent comment a like in appreciation and reception for the explanation. What IS your deal?
I never presented my comment as anything BUT uncertain speculation, it was not my intent to assume a fact. I feel that much was fairly clear from my post.
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Flour or corn burrito ?
MerlinTheGoat
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Here's another hot take- not a fan of cilantro.
jakeman
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I disagree.
I don't think they are valid points because they are not applicable to this particular project.
We simply don't have the information available to be able to make a determination if this refurbishment is unusual in it's length.
That really should have been the end of it.
My point is, your basis for speculation is exactly what my analogy pointed out. You took information for a completely unrelated project and transposed it onto this one and assumed your speculation was valid.
In the case of the Main Street scrims we had reliable knowledge that the project was being dragged out. We don't have that with this project and a 200 year old moving carousel isn't the same as 50 year old buildings. It's an apples to oranges comparison. Further more, an expert on apples and oranges, @Master Yoda, provided a reasonable explanation and you responded with the equivalent of "I found a tangelo in my pocket. What about that?"
Not everything is a trend. Not everything is an intricate system of levers and pulleys. Not everything is a nefarious capitalist plot to destroy the happiness in the 47 square miles of swamp south of Orlando (that is hyperbole and meant to be taken lightheartedly).
Sometimes, things just take a long time and if a reasonable explanation is provided that supports that, then that's okay and we can move on.
jakeman
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Do they make corn burritos?
Definitely something that should be taken in moderation.Here's another hot take- not a fan of cilantro.
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