mickeysbrother
Well-Known Member
Well he did say this them started in the 1890's or so. Adventurer club anyone? Time line is realistic enough
Sorry Had to throw that in...
Sorry Had to throw that in...
I never knew PI had a backstory and I still managed to have a few real good times there.
Why does a shopping center and cluster of restaurants even need a story? Shouldn't it just be a place to shop and eat?
When you put it that way it really makes you wonder what the heck was in that water at the springIts backstory had backstories. It was ridiculously elaborate. The only place where it sort of mattered, tho, was the Fireworks Factory--and that was one of the first things to close, sadly.
Especially when said story needs to somehow explain how a giant pineapple, a giant bowling pin and a giant New Orleans shack all grew up next to one another organically.
You must work for Disney…and came up with the faux high line idea…. Seriously I have seen tons of lifestyle shopping centers that are made to look like old towns… wow they are going to call the drainage ditch a spring.
spectacular.
Wow if this project turns out 97% as good as the art work it is going to be an average nice lifestyle shopping center!
JHC
I'm really impressed with what they have built so far but i'm worried it will not be sustainable long term much like the case with Pleasure Island.
I was of the understanding that it only lasted 10 but you are correct with 19. That said there are many venues around disney that have been there for 40+ years so I still think it was a relatively short time period for an entertainment venue built by the company.Pleasure Island not sustainable long term? It lasted 19 years.
I was of the understanding that it only lasted 10 but you are correct with 19. That said there are many venues around disney that have been there for 40+ years so I still think it was a relatively short time period for an entertainment venue built by the company.
Additionally Malls are closing at a record pace around the country so I'm worried that Disney springs may face a similar fate. Article
This remains a silly discussion until we know what's going in there--with the right stores, DS could compete with the Premium Outlet malls or Florida Mall, both of which are doing fine. But I will say after a visit to Orlando 360 for lunch, I-Drive looks to be bringing more competition than TDO anticipated.
Florida Mall lost Saks 5th Avenue and they're losing Nordstrom. The demand for luxury goods in Orlando isn't as great as some very big names thought. Is that the market Disney Springs plans to target?
Florida Mall lost Saks 5th Avenue and they're losing Nordstrom. The demand for luxury goods in Orlando isn't as great as some very big names thought. Is that the market Disney Springs plans to target?
You make a point, but it still has hordes of international tourists. But as Stichon points out, it's a cuththroat environment for these stores, Millenia is doing what it can to lure them away. And I still don't see how DS was going to cater to the super-luxury brands while at the same time appeasing the stroller and plush brigade. Part of why Millenia succeeds is because they aren't all-inclusive.
I've always found it odd that the hordes of Brits and Brazilians descend on the Outlets and Florida Mall, yet leave Millenia alone, even though it's a much nicer mall and many of the stores are similar.
I think the main difference here is the only "anchor" tenant is going to be World of Disney and quite a few of the shops will be disney owned & run boutique shops, some of which are being tested in the CoOp now. It's an interesting experiment.
I thought they were looking for mostly 3rd party vendors for Disney Springs.
So it's 3rd party vendors selling Disney stuff? I'm more confused now.Oh yeah, I remember that meme being pushed by the usual propagandists.
It will be mostly third party but that is the way it was originally conceptualized. Just with a lot more Disney style this time around.
This is the path they should have taken from the begining.
Disney wants third party operators but failed to attract any, resulting in the deaths of the "bold, new vision" and Hyperion Wharf (both of which Mr. "Propagandists" above claimed were going to be awesome because he can read tea leaves or some such nonsense). People doubt how much third party support Disney can attract with even more retail space, and therefore less exclusivity, when they have failed to sign many over the past several years be it at Downtown Disney or Flamingo Crossing. Disney was also rather forward about Marketplace CoOp being a place where they are testing retail concepts.So it's 3rd party vendors selling Disney stuff? I'm more confused now.
I guess I haven't been paying much attention to the Disney Springs news. So the new stores at Disney Springs are going to be additional Disney owned and operated stores? In the original press release didn't they talk about doubling the retail and dining locations? That's a lot of new Disney souvenir shops. Has the size/scope of the project changed? So far all I remember seeing released publicly are the restaurants where PI was.Disney wants third party operators but failed to attract any, resulting in the deaths of the "bold, new vision" and Hyperion Wharf (both of which Mr. "Propagandists" above claimed were going to be awesome because he can read tea leaves or some such nonsense). People doubt how much third party support Disney can attract with even more retail space, and therefore less exclusivity, when they have failed to sign many over the past several years be it at Downtown Disney or Flamingo Crossing. Disney was also rather forward about Marketplace CoOp being a place where they are testing retail concepts.
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