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PHOTOS - Building demolition work now in progress at Pleasure Island
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imagineer boy
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To be honest I think this is the only justifiable "tear down" because it will open the area up more and have nice views of the lake. Its still sad though. 
Hope the AC isn't next.
Hope the AC isn't next.
hrcollectibles
Active Member
It may be enough to make the internets 'splode. I am looking forward to the future of the area.
I wonder if the feelings would be the same if we always had the Wharf ad they decided to close it down to add Clubs.. Would people complain that they are adding night clubs... Probably... This just proves you can't please everyone.
csm
Well-Known Member
Are you honestly suggesting that people would complain if a handful of the virtual millions of gift shops and restaurants in Downtown Disney were to close to make way for a unique entertainment option that would stand out from everything else offered?
imagineer boy
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Honestly, the only thing worth seeing now at DTD is just La Nouba (which is probably one of the most beautiful pieces of art I've ever seen). I took a walk thorugh DTD after I saw the show and there was absolutly nothing that interested me. And Hyperion Warf so far looks like more of the same. I won't make final judgements until its complete but so far it doesn't look promising.
tirian
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What? I'm not even sure what you're responding to.
Disney had to offer free admission every night because nobody else was there anyway. It was the only way to make a profit; the CMs still had to pay for the alcohol.
PI initially was only for adult guests, and most adults lost interest because it wasn't wild enough. Go clubbing at the hottest place in town, and tell me if you think the behavior would be acceptable at a Disney-owned property. Many guests and execs said, "No."
I'm not saying PI failed because it tried to attract adults; I'm asserting PI failed because it couldn't attract the modern club scene.
The AC was an innocent bystander.
flavious27
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What? I'm not even sure what you're responding to.
Disney had to offer free admission every night because nobody else was there anyway. It was the only way to make a profit; the CMs still had to pay for the alcohol.
PI initially was only for adult guests, and most adults lost interest because it wasn't wild enough. Go clubbing at the hottest place in town, and tell me if you think the behavior would be acceptable at a Disney-owned property. Many guests and execs said, "No."
I'm not saying PI failed because it tried to attract adults; I'm asserting PI failed because it couldn't attract the modern club scene.
The AC was an innocent bystander.
The target audience for PI wasn't going to be grinding and hooking up in some corner of the island with a random person. Do you really think your mom and dad would have skipped PI because it wasn't wild enough?
Why it failed wasn't for the reasons you are stating, PI isn't Delaware Ave and shouldn't be.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
Just slightly, the dine and eat adds to the value of the AMC and should have been in place when this trend started over a decade ago.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
Did you even read Tirian's post?
Yes, PI shouldn't be faulted for not being hip to the antics of Paris Hilton and her fans. DTD is for the guests, it is for guests to be kept on property. Not trying to appeal to less than 10% of of park attendants is not a failure of PI. If underage and barely legal CMs and locals is who created problems, then don't allow them in.
jt04
Well-Known Member
They tried that originally. The concept still slowly declined. Perhaps you might want to consider quality over quantity when posting on this forum. The standards are a bit higher here that at other places. :wave:
flavious27
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I don't know, how many forums break out into FP, uni/ioa/wwhp vs wdw, yeti, 5th gate discussions that span pages upon pages?
With everything at wdw, management just needs to see where minor improvements can be made to retain the heart of the ride/attraction/land/park/resort and keep up its attendance.
If a main complaint was that there was not enough FF fair and that PI was blocking people from traveling from one side to another, then they could have built in the parking lot from the bus stop to t-rex. And it would put something near the bus stop, right now you are still walking through a parking lot.
originally it was wild, so much so that they didnt even wear disney nametags. It was when they started CUTTING everything that ppl lost interest.What? I'm not even sure what you're responding to.
Disney had to offer free admission every night because nobody else was there anyway. It was the only way to make a profit; the CMs still had to pay for the alcohol.
PI initially was only for adult guests, and most adults lost interest because it wasn't wild enough. Go clubbing at the hottest place in town, and tell me if you think the behavior would be acceptable at a Disney-owned property. Many guests and execs said, "No."
I'm not saying PI failed because it tried to attract adults; I'm asserting PI failed because it couldn't attract the modern club scene.
The AC was an innocent bystander.
According to DIsney, the demographics are "changing" and want to be in bed at 11pm. Funny, this asserts otherwise, and where were many of those taken? at EPCOT on NYE!!! There is a difference between can't and won't. Disney wanted out of the club business, obviously, because all they did was sabotage it until they could justify closing it.
tirian
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Yes, but when PI opened, the resort wasn't advertised as a princess hangout. As soon as that happened, PI had no place to go. Disney toned it down; yet it was too much for families walking from the Marketplace to the West Side, and not enough for people accustomed to the real club scene.
Epcot on New Year's Eve doesn't count. NYE looks like that everywhere--remember how PI was originally the place where "Every Night Is New Year's Eve"?
I'll agree to disagree with everyone else, but my take on it comes from discussions inside the company, not just my opinion. :wave:
flavious27
Well-Known Member
We took some photos from the water taxi yesterday (1/14) and this is what's left of Motion. Beach club is coming down next (next week probably)
Sorry for the crappy cell pics
It is just looking surreal. Like the dca mural and golden bridge being gone.
Yes, but when PI opened, the resort wasn't advertised as a princess hangout. As soon as that happened, PI had no place to go. Disney toned it down; yet it was too much for families walking from the Marketplace to the West Side, and not enough for people accustomed to the real club scene.
Epcot on New Year's Eve doesn't count. NYE looks like that everywhere--remember how PI was originally the place where "Every Night Is New Year's Eve"?
I'll agree to disagree with everyone else, but my take on it comes from discussions inside the company, not just my opinion. :wave:
which goes back to them ungating the island, which goes back to west side being created as a knee jerk reaction to citywalk. They could have kept it gated, created a reasonable pathway around it, promoted it as adults only fun, kept the princess crap out, and been just fine. Instead, they sabotaged until they could justify closing it.
menamechris
Well-Known Member
I never got a chance to go into the clubs at Pleasure Island. First because of my age, and then after I was 21, it just never crossed my mind to go (PI was long past it prime by that point). However, a group of friends and I went to Jellyrolls on the Boardwalk a few months ago. After a few drinks we ventured next door to the Atlantic Dance Hall since it was free admission with ID. Okay, if PI was a string of clubs like that one...omg...I am glad I didn't go. SCARY! We are talkin' people who looked like they were up to no good... just sayin'...
On the other hand, I think if AC is as great as everyone says and had the appeal it seemed to have, I am sure it is on Disney's radar somewhere in some form or fashion. It sounds like they just need to find a way to make it more profitable. Or they just don't give a crap. I'll let you guys decide...
On the other hand, I think if AC is as great as everyone says and had the appeal it seemed to have, I am sure it is on Disney's radar somewhere in some form or fashion. It sounds like they just need to find a way to make it more profitable. Or they just don't give a crap. I'll let you guys decide...