bethymouse
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The Tinkerbell movies are DVD material IMHO. We love them! 
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jdmdisney99
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And so is Planes!
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
I haven't seen them, so this is not an informed opinion, but I assume that they, like "Planes", are cheap schlock that sell well.
mcurtiss
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IMO, they are not retreads designed to sell toys, so nothing like "Planes"
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
It's a redo (and bastardization) of the Tinkerbell character from Peter Pan, and it exists exclusively to sell toys and movies. But I do like to believe that it's done with a bit more class than Planes; that one is just offensive.
Based on the short films I've seen of PH while waiting in the M&G line, it upholds some of the classic rules for good animation! Though I might just like that they're silent films (vocally, anyways).
But I will never be able to get behind the new Tinkerbell. She just isn't the Tink I know from Peter Pan.
Bocabear
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They are absolutely designed to sell toys and DVDs and marketing claptrap. Any direct-to-DVD film is...
mcurtiss
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well, to take it to the logical extreme, all kids movies are made to sell product. we all know that, of course, but there's brazen lowest common denominator "selling out" and there's the desire to put out a quality movie/TV show and let the licensing take care of it self. I think the DF franchise, IMO, is more of the latter.
Tim Lohr
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The 7th and 8th films were put on hold, maybe permanently, because of story problems... if you look at the teaser trailers for any of the past films you'll see they're all different from the final film. "Secret of the Wings" was initially called "Tinker Bell and the Mysterious Winter Woods" and came out a year later than originally scheduled because the story changed so much along the way, and the 3rd film "Great Fairy Rescue" had similar types of problems and changed pretty drastically (see below). Disney hasn't commented on the fairy's future beyond next year's "Legend of the Never Beast" film, but next year is also the next D23 where they tend to announce these types of things
Early teaser trailers for "Great Fairy Rescue" and "Mysterious Winter Woods" that have no actual footage from the finished films
Sketch105
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"The first TinkerBell movie had a budget of $48,000,000 and made only $52,000,000 worldwide. That's a bomb no matter how you look at it"
That number doesn't include DVD sales and merchandise, something Studios heavily account for nowadays.
The movie coming out in theaters was only a launching pad, not the be-all end all. If it had been a true bomb from the start they wouldn't have produced FOUR sequels, future merchandise,meet n greets, etc.
That being said- since the first movie came out, the audience has grown up and fan base is most likely dwindling now. It was a solid 6 year run.
That number doesn't include DVD sales and merchandise, something Studios heavily account for nowadays.
The movie coming out in theaters was only a launching pad, not the be-all end all. If it had been a true bomb from the start they wouldn't have produced FOUR sequels, future merchandise,meet n greets, etc.
That being said- since the first movie came out, the audience has grown up and fan base is most likely dwindling now. It was a solid 6 year run.
mcurtiss
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the $52M is DVD sales. there wasn't really any theatrical release (only if you count one theater)
Communicore
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Let's trade these fairies to Universal for some cartoons to be named later.
The budget for the first film would have included development costs that the sequels were built on. So there is that.
The point I wish to keep making is that will always be a market because there will always be new customers. Marvel Heroes will always be popular for the same reason. There is always a new generation that finds the content compelling.
Prototype82
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I wish we would get a well done PH.
mcurtiss
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i also wonder how much of that budget was for the re-write Lassetter asked for
LostPrincessKarleigh
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I have to disagree on the thought that the Tinkerbell movies would not have done as well as Planes in theaters. You have a classic character who is sassy, funny, and relate-able. That, on its own, will draw not only families with children but also the older, college, crowd (mostly female, I would imagine) who remember watching the original Peter Pan (and the direct-to-dvd sequel) as children. Tinkerbell has been a lone standing character since the 1950s. She was the fairy who introduced Walt Disney's show, she flies at MK, the stand alone merch is staggering! Plus, the Tinkerbell films are actually pretty good. (My 1 1/2 year old nephew loves Tinkerbell over Dusty Crop Hopper.) A cast of fun characters with varying personalities and a well told story over the course of 5 movies. TDO really underestimated this project and they have lost a lot by not giving it a bigger push to the masses, IMO. PH in MK should have been a no-brainer.
LostPrincessKarleigh
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She is a bit on the kinder side in her stand alone films. But she connects well to the new age group that Disney is marketing to. To me, the animation has improved film and film, with Pirate Fairy being almost completely different than the first Tinkerbell film. Disney Toon doesn't have the refinement of Disney Animation but, I think with a little more funding and guidance, they would do a lot better.
Okay. You have to be objective. If THDCo thought that TinkerBell would have brought in one $200,000,000 in box office at theaters, don't you think they would have released it that way?
They didn't.
Communicore
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Those "Fairies" interludes on Disney Channel, are they snippets from flicks or are they made for TV? I find some of those funny.