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Groxtak

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I've heard mumblings on the news threads here that the Avatar project has a budget of over $800 million. I asked if that was true but no one there replied...

Is it true?
 

Groxtak

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And now for Peter's transportation ramblings...

Let me dis-spell a myth right here and now. I have a reputation here for being a monorail advocate. In truth, I think there are better systems other than monorail that could be adapted. There are many aspects of monorail that I like, which can be used for other systems as well, such as rubber tires, electric propulsion, and the fact that it's 100% grade separated. What I don't like about monorail is that its speed is very limited and that it still has this thing called a track that it's tied down to. If it wants to go somewhere (other than its current path), a big bulky and slow "switch" on the track must reposition itself.

What I would prefer is a no-track system. Such a system would still have a fixed guideway that's still grade separated. It would be automated and use rubber tires, like Miami's Metromover. The difference is it would be able to "steer" itself at guideway junctions. Since there are no tracks, the vehicles would be powered by onboard batteries. Wireless charging magnetic coils could be embedded into the guideway so that the batteries never run out of charge.

There are several Disney rides that use trackless ride systems. They could use that as a development starting point...

...but no one ever listens to me... I'm just a voiceless soul on the Internet....
 

RedDad

Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
Disney has already solved the problem of being tied to a track...
mickey-mouse-clubhouse-choo-choo-train-games-i13.jpg
 

Jimmy Thick

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And now for Peter's transportation ramblings...

Let me dis-spell a myth right here and now. I have a reputation here for being a monorail advocate. In truth, I think there are better systems other than monorail that could be adapted. There are many aspects of monorail that I like, which can be used for other systems as well, such as rubber tires, electric propulsion, and the fact that it's 100% grade separated. What I don't like about monorail is that its speed is very limited and that it still has this thing called a track that it's tied down to. If it wants to go somewhere (other than its current path), a big bulky and slow "switch" on the track must reposition itself.

What I would prefer is a no-track system. Such a system would still have a fixed guideway that's still grade separated. It would be automated and use rubber tires, like Miami's Metromover. The difference is it would be able to "steer" itself at guideway junctions. Since there are no tracks, the vehicles would be powered by onboard batteries. Wireless charging magnetic coils could be embedded into the guideway so that the batteries never run out of charge.

There are several Disney rides that use trackless ride systems. They could use that as a development starting point...

...but no one ever listens to me... I'm just a voiceless soul on the Internet....




Jimmy Thick- Monorail song, oh so timeless...
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
And now for Peter's transportation ramblings...

Let me dis-spell a myth right here and now. I have a reputation here for being a monorail advocate. In truth, I think there are better systems other than monorail that could be adapted. There are many aspects of monorail that I like, which can be used for other systems as well, such as rubber tires, electric propulsion, and the fact that it's 100% grade separated. What I don't like about monorail is that its speed is very limited and that it still has this thing called a track that it's tied down to. If it wants to go somewhere (other than its current path), a big bulky and slow "switch" on the track must reposition itself.

What I would prefer is a no-track system. Such a system would still have a fixed guideway that's still grade separated. It would be automated and use rubber tires, like Miami's Metromover. The difference is it would be able to "steer" itself at guideway junctions. Since there are no tracks, the vehicles would be powered by onboard batteries. Wireless charging magnetic coils could be embedded into the guideway so that the batteries never run out of charge.

There are several Disney rides that use trackless ride systems. They could use that as a development starting point...

...but no one ever listens to me... I'm just a voiceless soul on the Internet....

Overall, I think WDW does a good job with the boats and buses; it's the monorail that needs work. Yet, with the very high volume of visitors to the parks every year, perhaps a 4th mode of transportation (trackless) might also have merit. According to your explanation, your idea outlines some practical aspects that I never thought of before. (Realistically speaking though, WDW's transportation budget is always the deciding factor when it comes to both existing means of travel, and newly proposed design concepts.) However, I would hope they have a balanced outlook toward the creative process, while still being mindful of reasonable budget constraints.

Regarding the present monorail, I'll never lose that sense of wonderment, while staring up at the high beams and observing the graceful movement of the monorail gliding by. That hasn't changed since my first visit there in the mid-80s, and the monorail will always remain an icon to me. I want it to stay forever. It could use some new equipment, additional maintenance, and cleaning though!
 

Groxtak

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BREAKING NEWS!
Four theme parks to link via monorail

I'm not kidding. All four theme parks are to be connected by monorail.

A $400 million monorail system is in the planning stages for Busch Gardens, Sea World, Aquatica, and Discovery Cove (collectively to be called Discovery World). The four parks, modeled after existing Busch parks of the same names, will be constructed on a newly built palm-shaped artificial island called Palm Jebel Ali. The island is located in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. The parks will be operated by the Busch Entertainment Company.

Google Palm Jebel Ali for additional information, or if you think I'm making this stuff up!
 

PeterAlt

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Guess what?!

I purged my browser cookies and logged in expecting it to ask for my ID (Groxtak) and password, but it logged me in automatically with PeterAlt!!!!!!!!

I'm so happy to have my identity back! Now, I'll tell my friend Rich he can have his ID back and, if he ever posts, that will be him posting. I doubt he will because he's not a big Disney junkie like myself!

I'm back babbbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah!!!!!!!
 

PeterAlt

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If there's messages I need to reply to in the other threads that were to Groxtak, please edit it with a @PeterAlt tag so I can see it. I'm not going to risk getting my cookies messed up by logging on as Groxtak, so I'm not going to get the alerts for those messages unless you put the @PeterAlt tag in the messages to Groxtak I have not answered.

Thanks!
 
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PeterAlt

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Everyone needs to watch The Institute. This documentary will change your life forever!
It's playing pay per view on demand now. On U-Verse it's $6. You can probably rent it on the other providers as well. This was the best $6 I've ever spent on a video!

I'm serious. You all have to watch it!
 

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