People who visit DW and complain about the walking...

[spacemt354]

Really? You are taking Disney's offering as the 'only way it can be' as opposed to opening your eyes to every other business on the planet. Just because Disney builds everything but deluxe properties at ginormous scale doesn't mean it HAS to be that way.

Even properties like the MGM Grand - which was the largest hotel IN THE WORLD when it opened.. had a smaller footprint for it's rooms than a place like POR.

Yes, they use towers in the MGM - but you can find all kinds of resorts the world over that put services closer to guest rooms without only having towers... and they aren't just 'deluxe' properties.

Heck, just draw a direct local comparison. The Gaylord Palms.. or how about Royal Pacific at Uni? Examples of moderate priced accomodations with far more services than Disney's moderates.. and don't put you a half mile from the food court.

Wow...talk about being 'blindly dismissive' ..."everything but deluxe properties at ginormous scale". Disney resorts except for the Big 3 (Coronado, Caribbean, Riverside) are relatively similar in size, and are really not as big as you project them to be.

And you keep on claiming people are giving you a typical dismissive retort by saying "if you don't like it, then don't go" Well, when you are arguing a position in which there are other options available, like Gaylord Palms, your argument is just pointless. Nobody is forcing you to stay at one of the Big 3. You make it seem like all Disney resorts are huge, and people don't have options to go anywhere else. Which is just not true.

I guess some posters on here are 100% right...Some people just like to hear themselves complain. *facepalm*

 

[ShookieJones]

It seems that a lot of people here like to complain about people complaining.

I haven't read through this whole thread, and I'm not sure I want to, but this caught my eye and made me laugh out loud...good stuff...hahaha...

 

[spacemt354]

It seems that a lot of people here like to complain about people complaining.

A complainer within a complainer....Inception!

 

[flynnibus]

Wow...talk about being 'blindly dismissive' ..."everything but deluxe properties at ginormous scale". Disney resorts except for the Big 3 (Coronado, Caribbean, Riverside) are relatively similar in size, and are really not as big as you project them to be.

Really? Then why is it a single All Star Resort (not on your list) is actually bigger than Typhoon Lagoon? Resorts like Coronado are roughly the size of the entire Magic Kingdom. These are not trivially small properties.

And why are people so happy to compromise? Is it they PREFER being a 10min walk from the breakfast food court? Or are they just so accepting of what Disney offers...

And you keep on claiming people are giving you a typical dismissive retort by saying "if you don't like it, then don't go" Well, when you are arguing a position in which there are other options available, like Gaylord Palms, your argument is just pointless. Nobody is forcing you to stay at one of the Big 3. You make it seem like all Disney resorts are huge, and people don't have options to go anywhere else. Which is just not true.

Now you are just crossing things and getting mixed up... The reference to the Gaylord was about points that 'this is the only way' it can be, etc. Simply not true. The design of resorts is independent of the constraints you have when chosing a hotel to stay in, especially if you stay on property. Constraints like $$, the size of your party, etc. For instance, if you have more than 4 people in your room, your options are shaved down unless you book multiple rooms. If you can only afford so much, saying 'well if you don't like POR, stay in the comtemp where things are closer!' isn't really a valid argument either. That tangent was to your earlier point about 'if you dont like it, stay elsewhere'. Reality is people don't have 100% freedom of choice. They work within constraints and decide which elements are flexible, and which are not.

 

[wiigirl]

It seems that a lot of people here like to complain about people complaining.

Ironic right?

 

[GoofGoof]

Here is a link to the number of rooms per resort:

http://touringplans.com/walt-disney-world/hotels/number-rooms

The big 3 referenced here are very large, but the All Stars are pretty much the same size. Unless you have a tower of rooms like the Vegas example you are going to have rooms that are far from services if the hotel exceeds 1,000 rooms and some are over 2,000. This is really just a fact based on the layout. Anyone complaining about the walk probably just didnt realize going in the size of these resorts. Disney has the land to build more spread out resorts than Uni or a place like Vegas. The positive is you get some nicer landscaping and natural areas. The negative is you have a longer walk to the front loby or pool or bus stop. Since these resorts cost less it is not economically practical to increase or duplicate the services while keeping the cost low.

I have stayed at Coronado Springs, AS Sports and AS Movies and we did have a long walk from our room to the front lobby each time. I didn't mind it at the time, but it was inconvenient compared to some of the smaller resorts. I had more issues with the hugely crowded buses especially at the value resorts. Now with 2 kids in tow I would probably say that I am more sensitive to convenience than we were before kids. It's not about being lazy or fat, but more about the time it takes to get where you want to go.

 

[flynnibus]

I have stayed at Coronado Springs, AS Sports and AS Movies and we did have a long walk from our room to the front lobby each time. I didn't mind it at the time, but it was inconvenient compared to some of the smaller resorts. I had more issues with the hugely crowded buses especially at the value resorts. Now with 2 kids in tow I would probably say that I am more sensitive to convenience than we were before kids. It's not about being lazy or fat, but more about the time it takes to get where you want to go.

That about sums it up.

If you want to run down and get a coffee in the AM while the rest of the family gets ready.. that's a hell of an adventure in many of these resorts. That's inconvenient and certainly worth a negative mark against a property. Is it 'enough' to make you not want to stay? That's a personal choice. But it doesn't make the problem non-existent.

 

[spacemt354]

Really? Then why is it a single All Star Resort (not on your list) is actually bigger than Typhoon Lagoon? Resorts like Coronado are roughly the size of the entire Magic Kingdom. These are not trivially small properties.

And why are people so happy to compromise? Is it they PREFER being a 10min walk from the breakfast food court? Or are they just so accepting of what Disney offers...

One All-Star Resort is roughly 0.90 miles in perimeter. Typhoon Lagoon is roughly 0.80 miles in perimeter. And water parks are typically small because people are not walking around in shoes, they are walking in their bare feet. Also, the most anyone would have to walk from the entrance to their specific room at an All-Star would be 0.25 miles. Greater than, yet comparable to AKL (0.17 mi) Grand Floridian (0.18 mi) Boardwalk (0.19 mi) and Yacht/Beach Club (0.19 mi) Contemporary (0.21 mi) Polynesian (0.24 mi)

And woah hold your horses there. Coronado is smaller than the Magic Kingdom, it is not "roughly" the same size. Throwing those comparisons in for shock value doesn't really help your argument because you are focusing on the wrong details. People walk all over the Magic Kingdom. Yet people at Coronado are only walking from one specific place to the other, lobby to their room. (unless they want to take a walk around the resort, which is also very nice) But nevertheless, the furthest you would have to walk for breakfast at Coronado would be 0.40 miles (and if you didn't want to walk, you could take the bus)

 

[Susan Savia]

I wear my pedometer daily into the parks and find it interesting to see that by the end of the day I've walked as much as 7 or 8 miles and I do this for two weeks...I don't feel so guilty eating those Mickey bars then!

 

[GoofGoof]

That about sums it up.

If you want to run down and get a coffee in the AM while the rest of the family gets ready.. that's a hell of an adventure in many of these resorts. That's inconvenient and certainly worth a negative mark against a property. Is it 'enough' to make you not want to stay? That's a personal choice. But it doesn't make the problem non-existent.

That is a really good point. I remember we got the refillable mugs and used them for breakfast every morning. One of us would walk back and drop them off at the room before heading out, but it was a hike. I agree that although the size is a negative I still love Coronado Springs. If someone asked me for a recommendation and said they were planning on staying at a value resort I would suggest they spend a little more and splurge on Coronado. To me it's well worth the cost differential. I would just warn them about the size and suggest they pull up an online map of the resort and request a room closer to the loby or pool or whatever they want to be closest to.

 

[SoupBone]

This mostly happens when I read reviews about the DW hotels. But it just torques me off to no end. People walk all day long in the parks but when they have to walk more than five feet beyond the elevator they have a kitten and give the hotel a bad grade.

I'm a DVC member and my home resort is SSR and I love the resort but I get sick of people complaining that the resort is to big and that it takes a big whopping ten minutes to get to the main building.

I feel better now, please let me know how you feel about the complaining walkers or how I'm over re-acting.

I love walking. I feel like even though I'm on vacation, I'm still getting some good physical exercise.

 

[flynnibus]

One All-Star Resort is roughly 0.90 miles in perimeter. Typhoon Lagoon is roughly 0.80 miles in perimeter. And water parks are typically small because people are not walking around in shoes, they are walking in their bare feet. Also, the most anyone would have to walk from the entrance to their specific room at an All-Star would be 0.25 miles. Greater than, yet comparable to AKL (0.17 mi) Grand Floridian (0.18 mi) Boardwalk (0.19 mi) and Yacht/Beach Club (0.19 mi) Contemporary (0.21 mi) Polynesian (0.24 mi)

I'm not going to go through all the numbers, but the few I looked at can be wildly off. 0.21 for the cotemp? From the south annex wings to the central counter its only about 0.16 - not 0.21..

How many times do you see threads about 'which building should I request at XYZ'? Why is that? If distance were such a non-issue, why does anyone care to start with? You're on property, that's all you need to know, right?

The distance is a factor to people in what rooms are desirable or not. It's why Disney charges MORE for the closer rooms in some of the properties.

And woah hold your horses there. Coronado is smaller than the Magic Kingdom, it is not "roughly" the same size. Throwing those comparisons in for shock value doesn't really help your argument because you are focusing on the wrong details

The Coronado loop is roughly 111 acres in size. The MK is roughly 106 acres in size. If that is not 'roughly' the same (less than 10% difference) - what would you call it?

People walk all over the Magic Kingdom. Yet people at Coronado are only walking from one specific place to the other, lobby to their room. (unless they want to take a walk around the resort, which is also very nice) But nevertheless, the furthest you would have to walk for breakfast at Coronado would be 0.40 miles (and if you didn't want to walk, you could take the bus)

And step back and listen to yourself. You're arguing that walking three quarters of a mile is a something we should be happy about.. just to get a cup of coffee or breakfast treat or soda.

Imagine if in the MK to get a some food, you had to walk 0.4 miles.. that's roughly the same as walking from BTMRR all the way back to Space Mountain (that's the only way to get a distance that far in the MK.. go the long horizontal axis).

Why is this a 'good' thing?

 

[spacemt354]

I'm not going to go through all the numbers, but the few I looked at can be wildly off. 0.21 for the cotemp? From the south annex wings to the central counter its only about 0.16 - not 0.21..

How many times do you see threads about 'which building should I request at XYZ'? Why is that? If distance were such a non-issue, why does anyone care to start with? You're on property, that's all you need to know, right?

The distance is a factor to people in what rooms are desirable or not. It's why Disney charges MORE for the closer rooms in some of the properties.

Nope, look again, from the Grand Canyon Concourse to the furthest room in the south wing is 0.21 mi. And you make it seem like everyone would be walking this distance. These numbers are the absolute furthest a guest would have to walk. And to a lot of people, they don't mind it as much as you do. And to a lot of other guests, they don't have to walk as much.

Also Edit: Coronado is 1.48 mi in perimeter (1.18 mi in perimeter discounting the huge convention hall that takes up a good chunk of the property that not a lot of guests use.) and the Magic Kingdom is roughly 1.64 mi in perimeter. So CS 's 1.18 vs MK's 1.64 of actual space for the typical guest is not close in my book.

So I'm going to say it again, which will end this discussion for me. If you don't like walking, then don't stay at the large resort. If it was so much of an issue, then the resorts would not be filled, and people would not stay in Coronado. But last time I checked, they do. So it must not be that much of a problem. And if it is, you can request a room closer to the lobby, no extra charge. And then there are rooms that you pay more to stay right next to the lobby. And if you can't afford that, then stay at POFQ, or another smaller resort. And if none of those options sound appealing to you because of the 'excessive' walking, then I have no clue how you are going to survive in the parks.

 

[wdwmomof3]

I have never complained about walking in the parks. I actually really enjoy it and I feel like I can eat whatever I want while I am there because we just walk it off.

I have complained about our room at CBR being so darn far away from the food court though, and we have not stayed there since. That was my fault too because I didn't think to request to be closer. Since that trip I have requested a preferred room at our resort and it has been great!

 

[GoofGoof]

I don't know if you guys are using Google maps or something to come up with distances, but I can tell you from experience that Coronado Springs is huge. I can't quantify how many miles or quarters of miles, but it was 20+ mins round trip from the room to the lobby and we were not the furthest section. You could take the bus if you really wanted to, but we were there in Jan when the weather was cool without kids so I was in no hurry and the grounds are really beautiful so the walk was nice. That being said I can see why people may consider it a negative though especially if they are not prepared.

For SSR I think it's more of an issue of cost vs convenience. Cash rates are pretty close to most deluxe resorts so people probably gripe if they have a 20 min walk somewhere. I would assume the complainers are a very small minority who may be vocal (human nature is to speak loudest when you have a complaint not a compliment). Most guests are probably owners and if you bought there you know what the layout is so I doubt you would complain.

 

[lebeau]

It seems that a lot of people here like to complain about people complaining.

Some receive a paycheck to do so.

 

[71dsp]

It seems that a lot of people here like to complain about people complaining.

I want to go on record as complaining about people who complain about people complaining.

Reminds me of

 

[unkadug]

Some receive a paycheck to do so.

You have a very good point!

 

[murphysmom]

Disney does have a lot of large-ish resorts. However if you want to be close to the main building you can always pay the rather small extra amount to be close, and do less walking. If you are too cheap to pay the $15 a night (or whatever your preferred resort charges) don't complain that the distance is too much. You made that choice.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

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