Less would be worth their while.
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Party Season 2021
- Thread starter ToTBellHop
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Yes. These parties print money. Remember, they are already planning to keep MK open until 9 pm nightly. Basically filling the park 2 times in one day in exchange for staying open another 3 hours makes a ton of money.
HauntedMansionFLA
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Less entertainment or less admission cost?
Cost. To beak even.
The party nights operated for 6 hours at 25% capacity (~22.5K people). And that was profitable.
The parks right now are operating for 12 hours at 35% capacity (~31.5K people), which is 2/3 of the 'normal' daily average. Which we could presume is marginally profitable.
So, cutting back the hours for the day on a party night, and then selling the night for a party is most definitely profitable, even with the tight restrictions now, let alone most likely having less restrictions in September.
The parks right now are operating for 12 hours at 35% capacity (~31.5K people), which is 2/3 of the 'normal' daily average. Which we could presume is marginally profitable.
So, cutting back the hours for the day on a party night, and then selling the night for a party is most definitely profitable, even with the tight restrictions now, let alone most likely having less restrictions in September.
Crazydisneyfanluke
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The 50th will limit holiday decorations.
No lights on castle, but possibly projections for the parties.
Not sure if bunting is planned for the 50th or any other decorations. Of course more details will be announced over time.
They charged more for the after hours events. Think $109 + tax minimum.
That sounds entirely accurate.
Which almost begs the question -- So why haven't they launched a few night parties already?
There are some easy profits that they have been leaving on the table right now. There is overwhelming demand for the restaurants, so why are any of the restaurants still closed??
pdude81
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For the time being, it's still cheaper to leave them closed than to open them up. (at least for the ones Disney controls)
Probably staffing. They'd need almost a full cast from 9a to midnight.
Plus the party nights have significant exclusive draws such as parades, shows, and fireworks which aren't possible at this time.
Given the level of demand right now, I don't believe that's true anymore.
With an important caveat footnote: With college program closed, with "enhanced unemployment" making it harder to find low wage staffers, they may concerned about staffing limitations.
@pdude81
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I believe Martin's remark about not doing after hours events was centered just on bringing back fireworks for that upcharge event.
Party nights (Halloween and Christmas) are a different animal.
Party Season 2021
The cost has to be a lot higher than that to make it worth their while. Less would be worth their while.
I believe Martin's remark about not doing after hours events was centered just on bringing back fireworks for that upcharge event.
Party nights (Halloween and Christmas) are a different animal.
pdude81
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That's fair. The way I see it, if you were to announce that nighttime entertainment was coming back, but only in parties, and only if you paid more and they closed early, that is an image problem. It's not really that different from just a paid fireworks show ticket.@pdude81
Party Season 2021
The cost has to be a lot higher than that to make it worth their while. Less would be worth their while.
I believe Martin's remark about not doing after hours events was centered just on bringing back fireworks for that upcharge event.
Party nights (Halloween and Christmas) are a different animal.
I think if they can announce that F! will be back but socially distanced and that some sort of fireworks will be happening at Epcot also, that provides cover for anything they want to do with upcharges at MK. And I think in 2 weeks the "curve" will be bent enough for some of these things to start being announced. All speculation.
The restaurants that are still closed are either high end or at partially closed resorts. There is a lot of overhead operating a Disney restaurant. (Even more so for locations inside hotels and inside the parks, and even more so if it is a third party operator) Self imposed capacity constraints extenuate this and make it even harder for to achieve profitability. Add to this the lack of cheap labor (CP,etc) which make it even more expensive to run.
Agree with you on the potential cheap labor issue.
As to "partially closed resorts" -- Even with Boardwalk resort closed, the Boardwalk restaurants would easily fill up with overflow from Beach Club / Yacht Club and DVC. Even take some Epcot overflow.
SoFloMagic
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People will wait for food. Better to run 5 restaurants at 120% of capacity than pay to open a sixth?
homerdance
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Which why I just don’t get why they haven’t planned any of these yet. They get to charge full price and don’t have to have as much open, like the after hours.
SoFloMagic
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Doesn't it take a lot of labor to sweep the park of day guests? I feel like it involves quite a bit of CP labor. Plus, usually you let the after hours group in early... But how do you do that with capacity limits?
Isn't there a union contract that they can't recall CMs and then send them back on furlough? If I'm remembering that correctly they can't just recall people to try something out
But they can’t run at 120%... not even 50%, re: TS.
Better to have 6 restaurants running at 50% than 5 restaurants at 50%.