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News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

ixjr

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The only way to improve Pixar Pier is to demolish it.
Disney could easily create a concept that would better represent the west coast shoreline far better than an amalgamation of seaside amusement parks.

Imagine a revised Discovery Bay only with more emphasis on a San Francisco-style harbor based around the 19th century on the scale and depth of DisneySea's American Waterfront. There could even be an extension/sub-land a la Cape Cod such as a Chinatown within.
 

mickEblu

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I don't disagree in the slightest, it's just frustrating because the huge redevelopment at least laid out a trajectory for some sense of romance:

With the DCA 2.0 redevelopment it at least seemed to me that we might have some semblance of the time and place that contributes to that feeling of being transported somewhere else that you can only get in a theme park

1910s era seaside Victorian pier

1920s Los Angeles & Golden Age Hollywoodland

1930s WPA National Parks

1950/60s Route 66

^ obviously it wasn't completely executed - but I thought things were at least moving in the right direction. Now that seems to be out the window...Pixar Pier and Avengers Campus just seem like a mall of attractions. Are the days of cohesive thematic lands outside of a single IP behind us?
Romance is a great word to use. And the park is slowly losing that sense of taking us to another time and place. Now we re just brand hopping our way across the park.

Take Bugs Land for example. The rides were terrible but the land (and ITTBAB) made you feel like a bug with all the clever props and trees. Now we ll get to go to the mysterious Marvel campus/ business park/ Circuit city with the oil refinery/ museum/ fortress/ warehouse looking over the land. Oh ya, and it’s all ACTUALLY at Disneyland. The Fortress appeared out of nowhere and then they decided to build the campus/ brewery/ circuit city next to it.

The park is going from a theme park to just a collection of rides and brands. Pixar Pier is terrible. At least the generic Paradise Pier could still disguise itself as being of a different time and place. The agenda of Pixar Pier is so in your face and tasteless.

I get it. They need a park where they can plug and play. A place where they can stay edgy (like Universal Studios) and showcase some of the new IP they re acquiring. Unfortunately, aside from Star Wars, they are taking the lazy and easy way out.

A mish mash Marvel Land with no clear vision that’s opening in 3 phases? The downgrade and ugly GOTG sitting in Hollywoodland for years? Pixar Pier? Even Soarin over the world was a huge downgrade in its experience AND thematically.
 
It’s not complicated, Pixar pier is a plus-ing without a complete demolition and reimagining of the area which is years away... after Marvel Land, after Hollywood backlot area redo... I don’t blame them for wanting to fix those areas before redoing Pixar pier into some other great land on level of Galaxys Edge. I just wish they move faster on phase one and two for Marvel but I know Eastern Gateway expansion is a factor
 

TROR

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It’s not complicated, Pixar pier is a plus-ing without a complete demolition and reimagining of the area which is years away... after Marvel Land, after Hollywood backlot area redo... I don’t blame them for wanting to fix those areas before redoing Pixar pier into some other great land on level of Galaxys Edge. I just wish they move faster on phase one and two for Marvel but I know Eastern Gateway expansion is a factor
But it hasn't been 'plussed' at all.
 

DanielBB8

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Take a number. Marvel Land, Tomorrowland, Hollywood Backlot, Fantasyland (which actually is fine), Toontown. Pixar Pier was an interim fix to match what was done on the other side. I doubt they will revisit for at least 20 years or longer as what happened with Tomorrowland where we’re still waiting.
 

SuddenStorm

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I doubt they will revisit for at least 20 years or longer as what happened with Tomorrowland where we’re still waiting.
In the case of Tomorrowland, it's had a number of band aid fixes to move away from the '98 theme. So what you're saying is over the next 20 years, we can expect to see Pixar Pier slowly move back into an altered version of Paradise Pier?
 

DanielBB8

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In the case of Tomorrowland, it's had a number of band aid fixes to move away from the '98 theme. So what you're saying is over the next 20 years, we can expect to see Pixar Pier slowly move back into an altered version of Paradise Pier?
No, I’m saying if they want to do anything, it’ll take 20 years to get to that point. Tomorrowland’s bandaid fixes are to address the serious mistakes of the botched 1998 makeover.
And you already forgot the many fixes that Paradise Pier already received like the addition of Toy Story Mania, the removal of the drop tower, and many other things prior to Pixar Pier.
 

SuddenStorm

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No, I’m saying if they want to do anything, it’ll take 20 years to get to that point. Tomorrowland’s bandaid fixes are to address the serious mistakes of the botched 1998 makeover.
And you already forgot the many fixes that Paradise Pier already received like the addition of Toy Story Mania, the removal of the drop tower, and many other things prior to Pixar Pier.
I'd assume Pixar Pier band aid fixes would be to address the serious mistakes of a botched 2018 makeover...

I'm not talking about changes made to Paradise Pier pre Pixar Pier. Every land gets changed and redone (looking at you Tomorrowland).
 

DanielBB8

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I'd assume Pixar Pier band aid fixes would be to address the serious mistakes of a botched 2018 makeover...

I'm not talking about changes made to Paradise Pier pre Pixar Pier. Every land gets changed and redone (looking at you Tomorrowland).
Beyond what’s already going in this year like the carousel and the spinner? If you’re saying Pixar Pier is botched and needs a major change, then you need to wait in line like 20 years.
 

SSG

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Romance is a great word to use. And the park is slowly losing that sense of taking us to another time and place. Now we re just brand hopping our way across the park.

Take Bugs Land for example. The rides were terrible but the land (and ITTBAB) made you feel like a bug with all the clever props and trees. Now we ll get to go to the mysterious Marvel campus/ business park/ Circuit city with the oil refinery/ museum/ fortress/ warehouse looking over the land. Oh ya, and it’s all ACTUALLY at Disneyland. The Fortress appeared out of nowhere and then they decided to build the campus/ brewery/ circuit city next to it.

The park is going from a theme park to just a collection of rides and brands. Pixar Pier is terrible. At least the generic Paradise Pier could still disguise itself as being of a different time and place. The agenda of Pixar Pier is so in your face and tasteless.

I get it. They need a park where they can plug and play. A place where they can stay edgy (like Universal Studios) and showcase some of the new IP they re acquiring. Unfortunately, aside from Star Wars, they are taking the lazy and easy way out.

A mish mash Marvel Land with no clear vision that’s opening in 3 phases? The downgrade and ugly GOTG sitting in Hollywoodland for years? Pixar Pier? Even Soarin over the world was a huge downgrade in its experience AND thematically.
You had me at brewery.
 

Disney Irish

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The only problem I see with "fixes" to Pixar Pier over time is this:

Critics (especially those in the fandom) will say Disney should have done it all at once the first time. And DisFans will say its expected to have tweaks and changes to fix a land over time, providing xyz land as an example.

Basically its no win either way, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
 

TROR

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The only problem I see with "fixes" to Pixar Pier over time is this:

Critics (especially those in the fandom) will say Disney should have done it all at once the first time. And DisFans will say its expected to have tweaks and changes to fix a land over time, providing xyz land as an example.

Basically its no win either way, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Had they not done anything at all they wouldn’t have been damned
 

SuddenStorm

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The only problem I see with "fixes" to Pixar Pier over time is this:

Critics (especially those in the fandom) will say Disney should have done it all at once the first time. And DisFans will say its expected to have tweaks and changes to fix a land over time, providing xyz land as an example.

Basically its no win either way, Disney is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
They're damned right now with the embarrassing state the land is in.

They'll be far less damned in the long run if they fix it.
 
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