News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

mickEblu

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@smile I guess a better question would be ...

“ As the theme park industry leaders who’s founding principles are Story/ immersion, how is creating show scenes using screens as the primary story telling device with minimal physical sets the right decision for GOTG? Especially considering the fact there is nothing convincing me that I’m not looking at a screen unlike Star Tours where we re looking through a “windshield” which helps with the illusion. More importantly how can TOT and theme park fans not be let down by losing show scenes with better physical sets and practical/ special effects being downgraded to Christmas lights and Tv screens? I’ll take the ghost effect or star field effect over looking at GOTG actors I saw on the same screen at the movies any day.”

Anyway, the issue is that it takes a lot of words to express myself in any meaningful way or I just don’t know how to be succinct and express what I’m trying to say in fewer characters.
 
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Curious Constance

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@smile I guess a better question would be ...

“ As the theme park industry leaders who’s founding principles are Story/ immersion, how is creating show scenes using screens as the primary story telling device with minimal physical sets the right decision for GOTG? Especially considering the fact there is nothing convincing me that I’m not looking at a screen unlike Star Tours where we re looking through a “windshield” which helps with the illusion. More importantly how can TOT fans not be let down by losing show scenes with better physical sets and practical/ special effects being downgraded to Christmas lights and Tv screens? I’ll take the ghost effect or star field effect over looking at GOTG actors I saw on the same screen at the movies any day.”

Anyway, the issue is that it takes a lot of words to express myself in any meaningful way or I just don’t know how to be succinct and express what I’m trying to say in fewer characters.

His reply will be, "What are you talking about? GOTG MB is amazing! BAM! PS: I'm not ready to retire yet and have no interest in looking for another job at my age. Have you seen my earlobes? I don't interview well."
 

Disney Irish

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@smile I guess a better question would be ...

“ As the theme park industry leaders who’s founding principles are Story/ immersion, how is creating show scenes using screens as the primary story telling device with minimal physical sets the right decision for GOTG? Especially considering the fact there is nothing convincing me that I’m not looking at a screen unlike Star Tours where we re looking through a “windshield” which helps with the illusion. More importantly how can TOT fans not be let down by losing show scenes with better physical sets and practical/ special effects being downgraded to Christmas lights and Tv screens? I’ll take the ghost effect or star field effect over looking at GOTG actors I saw on the same screen at the movies any day.”

Anyway, the issue is that it takes a lot of words to express myself in any meaningful way or I just don’t know how to be succinct and express what I’m trying to say in fewer characters.

Now get that down to 280 characters and you're golden... :cool:
 

smile

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@smile I guess a better question would be ...

“ As the theme park industry leaders who’s founding principles are Story/ immersion, how is creating show scenes using screens as the primary story telling device with minimal physical sets the right decision for GOTG? Especially considering the fact there is nothing convincing me that I’m not looking at a screen unlike Star Tours where we re looking through a “windshield” which helps with the illusion. More importantly how can TOT fans not be let down by losing show scenes with better physical sets and practical/ special effects being downgraded to Christmas lights and Tv screens? I’ll take the ghost effect or star field effect over looking at GOTG actors I saw in the same screen at the movies any day.”

Anyway, the issue is that it takes a lot of words to express myself in any meaningful way or I just don’t know how to be succinct and express what I’m trying to say in fewer characters.

yeah, this is larger than a tweet (in more ways than one!)... might be better off as a semi-related comment on a instagram post lol
... he also might be more willing to engage in a dialog rather than wanting to defend himself, so consider that aspect from his side when reading back to yourself - then send

could also go the spam/troll route, i suppose... so... whatever's your goal, good sir, godspeed! :D
 

mickEblu

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yeah, this is larger than a tweet (in more ways than one!)... might be better off as a semi-related comment on a instagram post lol
... he also might be more willing to engage in a dialog rather than wanting to defend himself, so consider that aspect from his side when reading back to yourself - then send

could also go the spam/troll route, i suppose... so... whatever's your goal, good sir, godspeed! :D

Lol thanks. Of course what he really probably wants to say is “dude, it’s synergy, they asked for a Marvel attraction with a very short TAT. F off.”
 

Disney Irish

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Lol thanks. Of course what he really probably wants to say is “dude, it’s synergy, they asked for a Marvel attraction with a very short TAT. F off.”

Like I said you make not like the answer....

But I really think, and I've said it before, ToT was just a victim of location. Had it been in a different location in DCA or even pushed back to the back edge of that expansion pad, we'd be having a different discussion.
 

smile

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His reply will be, "What are you talking about? GOTG MB is amazing! BAM! PS: I'm not ready to retire yet and have no interest in looking for another job at my age. Have you seen my earlobes? I don't interview well."

:hilarious:

Lol thanks. Of course what he really probably wants to say is “dude, it’s synergy, they asked for a Marvel attraction with a very short TAT. F off.”

spam/troll it is!

Like I said you make not like the answer....

But I really think, and I've said it before, ToT was just a victim of location. Had it been in a different location in DCA or even pushed back to the back edge of that expansion pad, we'd be having a different discussion.

he may say what he's said before and claim theme is irrelevant, the attraction was designed to stand on it's own, and is effective... followed, possibly, by assorted technical hoopla. or not.
- to me, it needing to replace tot is another matter altogether and a far more interesting one than m:b in and of itself because it encompasses the whole shebang.
 

mickEblu

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Like I said you make not like the answer....

But I really think, and I've said it before, ToT was just a victim of location. Had it been in a different location in DCA or even pushed back to the back edge of that expansion pad, we'd be having a different discussion.

I’d like to think so. But they wanted it to be a thrill ride and I’m pretty sure they wanted it super quick to the point where only an overlay would cut it. AND it happens to be located in the future plot for Marvel Land. What other choices did they have?
 

Disney Irish

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I’d like to think so. But they wanted it to be a thrill ride and I’m pretty sure they wanted it super quick to the point where only an overlay would cut it. AND it happens to be located in the future plot for Marvel Land. What other choices did they have?

I think they do have a master plan for DCA, despite what some in the HOB might say. The issue is that things have not gone their way with Anaheim in recent years. And that caused them to modify plans and put in some short term "improvements" much to the chagrin of some in the HOB, just to say to Anaheim they're continuing to invest.
 

mickEblu

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I think they do have a master plan for DCA, despite what some in the HOB might say. The issue is that things have not gone their way with Anaheim in recent years. And that caused them to modify plans and put in some short term "improvements" much to the chagrin of some in the HOB, just to say to Anaheim they're continuing to invest.

I think they have a master plan that’s continuously being changed because of the issues with Anaheim and the never ending acquisitions. So we end up with rushed overlays.
 

Disney Irish

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I think they have a master plan that’s continuously being changed because of the issues with Anaheim and the never ending acquisitions. So we end up with rushed overlays.

The primary issue is Anaheim, in my opinion. Had the EGW project gone through we'd be in a different place. GotG would have still happened, but maybe not Pixar Pier or at least there would be more budget for it. So #thanksanaheimforpixarpier

And to be honest with acquisitions its set on content. I don't think Fox is going to have much impact on the Parks, except maybe the return of Marvel characters. But overall I don't think Disney is going to use much of Fox assets for the Parks.
 

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