News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

Professortango1

Professortango1

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FigmentForver96 said:
Wrong again. First it should be noted that the second edition of the tower was designed for Disneyland Paris and was added to Anaheim first to help the bleeding park. The 5th dimension scene was cut for two reasons.

1) Budget

2) Capacity, the Paris park needed a headliner that would eat up people and so they added a third shaft. Anaheim followed the same design because it was cheaper and they also needed another big ride with big capacity.

The result is a half hearted experience that couldn't top the original simply because it was a watered down version. Anyone who rode both knew that as well.

I'm going to leave the conversation here so you don't have to worry about telling us how when you rode the Orlando version everyone laughed at the cheesiness of it.
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I rode both and didn't "know" that as well. Neither did anyone who has ridden both and prefers the updated attraction. And the 5th Dimension scene is known to be a mess of problems that didn't turn out as effective as they had originally hoped. Most downtime with Orlando's TOT is due to the 5th Dimension Room. So, you can keep claiming your opinions as facts and keep calling documented facts wrong, but it won't change the reality of the situation. Of course, any evidence to the contrary would probably be considered "Fake news" by you.
 
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Professortango1

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I saw Aladdin at DCA many times, and I’ve seen dozens of Broadway musicals in NYC and on tour, including Aladdin.

Aladdin at DCA, was, in my opinion, garbage. Some nice sets and costumes, but the staging was amateur beyond belief and would have been laughed out of New York. The horrific stunt doubling, lip syncing, and acting completely devoid of emotion or theatricality. The whole show depended on fourth wall breaking jokes from the Genie while the other characters stood around pretending not to know who Kim Kardashian is.

The director of Aladdin at DCA was Francesca Zambello, an opera director. You can tell that’s where her background is because she directed everyone to deliver their lines facing the audience instead of the other characters. This wore down over time as she stepped away and new actors were brought in and rehearsed by Disneyland directors.

Zambello went on to direct The Little Mermaid on Broadway for Disney, which was putrid in every way. Truly an embarrassment.

Aladdin on Broadway has its issues, but I enjoyed it far more than any of the many visits to the Hyperion over the years.
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The only staging I hated was "One Jump Ahead." When was their lip syncing in the show?

And I agree about The Little Mermaid, that show was atrocious. But I've seen a ton of terrible Broadway musicals, many far worse that DCA's Aladdin, which is why I give it a pass, especially for a theme park show. I mean, I saw through Ghost and Tarzan. DCA's Aladdin looks Tony-worthy compared to those "professional" piles of garbage.
 
Rich T

Rich T

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I saw Aladdin at DCA many times...Aladdin at DCA, was, in my opinion, garbage.
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Just curious; why did you keep going back? :D My own experience with DCA Aladdin was total avoidance. Never saw it. The AP superfans standing in line for it every day creeped me out and the Youtube videos made it look really obnoxious and full of itself.
 
Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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FigmentForver96 said:
Wrong again. First it should be noted that the second edition of the tower was designed for Disneyland Paris and was added to Anaheim first to help the bleeding park. The 5th dimension scene was cut for two reasons.

1) Budget

2) Capacity, the Paris park needed a headliner that would eat up people and so they added a third shaft. Anaheim followed the same design because it was cheaper and they also needed another big ride with big capacity.

The result is a half hearted experience that couldn't top the original simply because it was a watered down version. Anyone who rode both knew that as well.

I'm going to leave the conversation here so you don't have to worry about telling us how when you rode the Orlando version everyone laughed at the cheesiness of it.
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I actually heard from a WDI that i commuted with part of what was said in the previous post. The 5th dimension room had many issues and supposedly they were never able to get it to work as designed.
From what he said the original design called for the whole room to be completely covered in mirrors and reflective material to help the illusion of the elevator floating. projections were then going to be used to create the illusion of several items appearing and disappearing. Test supposedly went well but once it was implemented during construction the reflective material and mirrors caused quite a few issues with the ride system loosing track of vehicles.
They had to rethink the idea and change it to what is there now. According to him, they were never pleased with the final outcome and had hoped to go back and try and resolve it but cost and approvals never materialized.

When the Paris version was being developed, they were tasked in finding a way to increase capacity. They had come up with a completely different idea for the 5th dimension but felt that it still wouldn't work as they had hoped so they removed it completely. The change not only helped keep budgets minimal but it solved the capacity issue and removed a scene they were never pleased with.


Wether his explanation was true or not, guess we will never really know because stories keep changing. The person that told me was involved in the original design for TOT and was also involved in the TDS project. His version is that OLC had a choice between both versions of the tower but that they didn't care for the replacement idea that they were pitched to replace the 5th dimension room.
 
GiveMeTheMusic

GiveMeTheMusic

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Professortango1 said:
The only staging I hated was "One Jump Ahead." When was their lip syncing in the show?

And I agree about The Little Mermaid, that show was atrocious. But I've seen a ton of terrible Broadway musicals, many far worse that DCA's Aladdin, which is why I give it a pass, especially for a theme park show. I mean, I saw through Ghost and Tarzan. DCA's Aladdin looks Tony-worthy compared to those "professional" piles of garbage.
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Oh there are for sure a lot of terrible Broadway musicals. I didn't see Ghost, but heard enough to want to stay away. Mermaid was a war crime and everyone involved should be put on trial at the Hague.

Every time a stunt double was used there was lip-sycning. One Jump Ahead, and the entire flying in the audience section of Whole New World, genie Jafar, etc.

Rich T said:
Just curious; why did you keep going back? :D My own experience with DCA Aladdin was total avoidance. Never saw it. The AP superfans standing in line for it every day creeped me out and the Youtube videos made it look really obnoxious and full of itself.
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Guests visiting from out of town wanted to see it, needed to support friends in the cast, etc.
 
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Disneylover152

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Phrubruh said:
How is Spongebob? Is it true to the show? It didn't look all that great on the Grammys.
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It’s one of the best things on broadway IMO. I was anti-Spongebob musical for a while but then my friend won the Broadway lottery and couldn’t go so I went and fell in love with the show. It’s such a fun and colorful show with a really important message about community and friendship. It’s also really entertaining with a lot of one-liners and references to the show. Also, yes, “My leg!” Is in there so don’t worry!

I really recommend seeing it. The cast works so hard to bring the cartoonish world to life on stage and it’s so beautifully staged. The songs, while probably the worst part of the snow, is still really good! You will never have a better time at a Broadway show. I liked it better than any Disney musical (exception The Lion King). It’s worth the hype and pearls voice is to live for. I really recommend seeing it. It’s my favorite new musical of 2017-18 season. Defiantly go!

Here’s the trailer:
 
NateD1226

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Anyways, back on the Pixar Pier topic. I feel they did a good job with these two things: Jack Jack Cookies and the games. The prizes for the games were really cute and I really loved the cookies taste and how the chocolate is super gooey. Everything else was just...eh.
 
smile

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mickEblu said:
Lol in my next tweet, I’m going to tell him that I created a twitter account just to ask him that question.
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my only little nit here is that it doesn't read as sincere (aggressive even?)... i mean, i know of you that it's from deep within -
but, you know the answer to the question you posed. right? if i were joe, that's what i'd assume and prob ignore.

considering the magnitude, perhaps there's a better question coming from that place that gets more at the root of what you're trying to convey.

sorry man, just don't want your moment in the spotlight to come across like "y u no tot no moar?"
- i'm joking, of course... he won't read it anyway :p
 
mickEblu

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smile said:
my only little nit here is that it doesn't read as sincere (aggressive even?)... i mean, i know of you that it's from deep within -
but, you know the answer to the question you posed. right? if i were joe, that's what i'd assume and prob ignore.

considering the magnitude, perhaps there's a better question coming from that place that gets more at the root of what you're trying to convey.

sorry man, just don't want your moment in the spotlight to come across like "y u no tot no moar?"
- i'm joking, of course... he won't read it anyway :p
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Lol yea I have to agree. I didn’t really give it much thought before I sent it. I have very long essays I’ve posted around here about why GOTG is a downgrade. I obviously didn’t want to write anything that long. I also didn’t want to come off as angry or rude. I guess I was trying to come off as casual and straight to the point. But yeah I think I could have been a little more nuanced. Sounds like I’ll have my chance too as I’ll probably have to tweet him another 37 times to respond.
 
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