News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[fctiger]

I meant the quality level in areas. Not comparing it to the Incredicoaster.

Oh ok, my mistake although its still a weird comparison.

 

[No Name]

I kind of like Violet's "embarrassing" line.

Also don’t like the videos of the Incredibles being interviewed in the Q.

Wow, usually people misspell queue as "que" but you took it a step further with "Q." So outrageous I'm not even annoyed.

How's this for overthinking it:

Movie orchestral scores, like the Incredibles one, are implied to not exist inside that world. We know that there isn't loud music playing while the Incedibles are fighting evil. We don't think there's actually loud music playing in ancient Rome during Gladiator, or an epic score playing over hidden PA speakers in Jurassic Park, timed to get epic at just the right moments. The only exception is when it's showed that the characters are listening to that audio (like in Guardians of the Galaxy and Chris Pratt's Walkman"

So why in the heck is the Incedibles score playing on a coaster dedicated to the Incredibles? Is it ever established that that's Mr. Incredibles theme song for a TV show or something that exists in that world?

In order for a ride to be convincing, things have to subconsciously make sense. BTMRR and the rockwork look more convincing that the rockwork you find in Six Flags because it was done in such a way where it looks like the train had no choice but to follow the path it goes, not vice versa. They made it look like they hacked away at the rock to install the track, they didn't make it look like the rockwork melted up like lava and creeped around the supports. This is something most people don't notice, they just accept it. This is the audio equivalent of that.

They should have a line in the pre show that talks about how they hired someone to record an epic soundtrack for this new coaster to have it make sense. How else would a soundtrack that doesn't exist inside the Incredible's world be heard in a ride that's supposed to take place inside their world?

This is the kind of thing that Imagineers used to think about. Inside the Haunted Mansion, we can see the ghosts performing the song that you hear. Inside Pirates of the Caribbean, we can see them singing the song. In Guardian's of the Galaxy Mission Breakout, we hear the rabbit mention something about music and plug in.

Why does the coaster say Pixar Pier on it? What is Pixar to the Incredibles? The meta storyline really calls that into question. Granted I can't say I'd be happier with a less meta storyline that falls incredibly short, but as I've argued, leaving the name "Paradise Pier" would've solved that issue.

At first glance I thought that photo was concept art of an unfinished product. Yeesh.

Also seems like poor theming to have a churro stand based on a short lived gag inside a film, and not based on the film that literally takes place in Mexico.

Churros were invented in Spain not Mexico. But to your point, I'm not sure a space-related toy with a Spanish option is a better fit than a Mexican child. The biggest issue in my opinion is that, not unlike other aspects, the churro cart does not match aesthetically with anything else. Invokes opening day DCA vibes.

 

[mickEblu]

I kind of like Violet's "embarrassing" line.



Wow, usually people misspell queue as "que" but you took it a step further with "Q." So outrageous I'm not even annoyed.



Why does the coaster say Pixar Pier on it? What is Pixar to the Incredibles? The meta storyline really calls that into question. Granted I can't say I'd be happier with a less meta storyline that falls incredibly short, but as I've argued, leaving the name "Paradise Pier" would've solved that issue.



Churros were invented in Spain not Mexico. But to your point, I'm not sure a toy with a Spanish setting is a better fit than a Mexican child. The biggest issue in my opinion is that, not unlike other aspects, the churro cart does not match aesthetically with anything else. Invokes opening day DCA vibes.

Lol yes but I’m obviously abbreviating and not misspelling it.

 

[No Name]

Lol yes but I’m obviously abbreviating and not misspelling it.

U R kewl m8.

 

[SuddenStorm]

U R kewl m8.

Technically, "kewl" is the same amount of letters as "cool", so that's not even an abbreviation.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm probably in the minority on this opinion...but I have to admit...after seeing the "magic" they've managed to throw together create here...

...I kinda wish we had gotten Toy Story Land instead.

No, thanks.

 

[Rich T]

I'm probably in the minority on this opinion...but I have to admit...after seeing the "magic" they've managed to throw together create here...

...I kinda wish we had gotten Toy Story Land instead.

Pixar Pier makes Dino-Rama look like Tokyo Disney Sea.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

lol. No one likes Toy Story Land. Check.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

It is? Well that guarantees it’s nasty.

Dating someone who is GF, I can attest that most of her "special" food is in fact...not that great.

 

[c-one]

The kicker is that the knock on Paradise Pier in the old days was that it was too Six Flags. But they (half-) tried to slap a Disney theme on it and it’s somehow come out even MORE Six Flags than it was before.

Like honestly it reminds me of the Superman trackside decorations at Six Flags New England.

 

[bluerhythym]

While the concept of pixar pier is weak, it really could have been a good addition if they made the right choices. Its really a shame they went this route even with whatever limited budget they had.

They just had to continue with the Victorian theming and it would have been a solid land. They were so close too - a new Victorian dome over the carousel (maybe enclosed like the Santa Monica Pier), a new enclosed queue for Screamin' (they could have used the open helix to make something more immersive), and a new dark ride with the entry at the Maliboomer pad (a great spot to integrate some Pixar characters without breaking the area... Nemo? Coco?).

You can't fix the crappy restrictive layout, terrible sightlines and bay that looks more like a mall fountain though, which is why I hope this whole area is demolished in a few years.

 

[TragicMike]

Very disappointed with the Incredicoaster. Looking at SW:GE, Imagineers can obviously create grand and spectacular lands given proper time and budget. I'm sure if PP was torn down and you gave them proper resources they would be able to create a land that captures what makes Pixar films so special to all of us. They were given an impossible task from the start.

 

[smile]

Pixar Pier makes Dino-Rama look like Tokyo Disney Sea.

oooh, i see what you did there...
and you're right!


but this is where it can get twisty because, as experiences in and of themselves, i have to stand in opposition

 

[brb1006]

Never been to DLR yet, but glad to see the drop in Disney quality does not affect WDW alone. Guess we will all need to go to Asia to see Disney quality of years ago. Anyway... gotta love the Jack-Jacks on a stick.. very well done!

I'm already amazed BATB finally getting an actual ride (Let alone an LPS ride) and a new Peter Pan ride at Tokyo.

 

[TROR]

I'm already amazed at BATB finally getting an actual ride (Let alone an LPS ride) and a new Peter Pan ride at Tokyo.

I really hope we get a clone of the Peter Pan ride Tokyo is getting. As long as it's not primarily screens, having it be part of a small Neverland section to the east of "it's a small world" with a new Chicken of the Sea would be incredible.

 

[Disneylover152]

The reason the churro cart is themed to Buzz is because of theme! We can't have a Coco churro cart in the Toy Story neighborhood on a seaside pier. And theres not enough room in the budget to move the cart into the Pixar Promenade neighborhood with a Mickey Mouse ferris wheel!

 

[TROR]

The reason the churro cart is themed to Buzz is because of theme! We can't have a Coco churro cart in the Toy Story neighborhood on a seaside pier. And theres not enough room in the budget to move the cart into the Pixar Promenade neighborhood with a Mickey Mouse ferris wheel!

I know you're kidding, buuutttt they have the Inside Out hot dog stand in the Incredibles/Toy Story neighborhood.

 

[Mikomike12]

I know you're kidding, buuutttt they have the Inside Out hot dog stand in the Incredibles/Toy Story neighborhood.

It's actualley out front of the soon to be bing bongs so it semi fits

 

[Jeremy Geertsema]

This might have already been discussed, but in the preshow video....the family is asked about the coaster name and Violet says "sure, slap our names on an old ride" to which Edna Mode responds with "quite normal darling, corporations call it synergy". Love when they call themselves out!

 

[TROR]

It's actualley out front of the soon to be bing bongs so it semi fits

Ah my bad. I could've sworn it was in front of the Incredicoaster launch.

This might have already been discussed, but in the preshow video....the family is asked about the coaster name and Violet says "sure, slap our names on an old ride" to which Edna Mode responds with "quite normal darling, corporations call it synergy". Love when they call themselves out!

Between this and "Disneyland? That's thematically inconsistent," I get the feeling the Imagineers are unhappy. Or they're stupid and think insulting their own brand is good for Disney. I prefer the former.