News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

D.Silentu

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If they really love Inside Out, they're coming out ahead if the candy shop is closed. Selling a dead character's tears is probably the most crass, greedy, unfeeling, grotesque money grab Disney's ever pulled.
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Rich T

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Yikes.

You know when you're at the movies and they play a movie short created by some college kid who won some contest which is basically just an ad for Coca Cola or something, and it's so bad, the whole time you just want to crawl out of your skin in cringe? THAT'S what Incredicoaster reminds me of!!!
Any given Emporium window display is of higher quality than any scene on Incredicoaster. The babies-on-a-stick is the most W.T.F. pathetic thing I've ever seen from Imagineering.
 
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bluerhythym

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Here's a photo of Poultry Palace from the other side

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I actually respect Disney more for this, at least they were embracing the cheesiness of it, not trying to convince us that a giant fast food chicken box is "immersive" and "all about the story".

Ok, I'm easy going about this whole thing, but those Jack-Jack sticks are ridiculous.

#jackjacksticks will surely be the next purple wall snack
 

SuddenStorm

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I'm torn because I see your point, but at the same time I don't know if it's one of those over explanation things that WDI loves to do. Does there always need to be a story behind why the music is playing? In some circumstances I think there can be some leniency for no explanation, because an explanation could be groan inducing.

Does something like Indiana Jones have an explanation behind the score? I highly suspect both Star Wars attractions will be scored and there will likewise be zero explanation, nor do I think in that case do I want for there to be one. I think "we pipe in Imperial music for morale" would be groan inducing.

It's interesting how personally, hearing music in Star Tours and Indy doesn't bother me- but this does. Maybe it's because those rides embody the spirit of their source material, and are far more cinematic experiences than the Incredicoaster.

In the Indiana Jones Ride, I feel like I'm inside an adventure inside an Indiana Jones film. The whole thing is incredibly cinematic and epic, which the score helps build on. Same with something like Space Mountain, I accept it because for some subconscious reason, it works.

Perhaps if the Incredicoaster wasn't a hamfisted "this ride is named after you, the Incredible family" and was instead The Incredibles Adventure with an immersive queue, convincing effects, and a far more engaging story than chasing Jack Jack I'd accept it.

Indiana Jones Adventure transports me into the world of Indy, allowing me to be lenient and hold it to those rules while the Incredicoaster transports the Incredibles to the real world, causing me to hold it to those standards.
 

SuperStretccch

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The beginning effect with Dash running on water confuses me, although maybe that's because I'm trying to judge from a video. Why can't we see him running with us? Isn't Violet supposed to be the one with invisibility and not Dash? :rolleyes:

If I can be perfectly honest, the overall theming quality of this might be on par with dreadfully cheap WDI of the early 2000's. And that's saying something when the original "cheap WDI" version of this ride was actually a better experience. Sad, isn't it?
 

Kram Sacul

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I'm probably in the minority on this opinion...but I have to admit...after seeing the "magic" they've managed to throw together create here...

...I kinda wish we had gotten Toy Story Land instead.

That’s probably the most positive thing about this whole Pixar Pier mess. Toy Story Land looks incredible in comparison. Nice oversized props, amazing night lighting and a decently themed coaster with an animatronic. No department store displays and babies on a stick.
 

BrianLo

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It's interesting how personally, hearing music in Star Tours and Indy doesn't bother me- but this does. Maybe it's because those rides embody the spirit of their source material, and are far more cinematic experiences than the Incredicoaster.

In the Indiana Jones Ride, I feel like I'm inside an adventure inside an Indiana Jones film. The whole thing is incredibly cinematic and epic, which the score helps build on. Same with something like Space Mountain, I accept it because for some subconscious reason, it works.

Perhaps if the Incredicoaster wasn't a hamfisted "this ride is named after you, the Incredible family" and was instead The Incredibles Adventure with an immersive queue, convincing effects, and a far more engaging story than chasing Jack Jack I'd accept it.

Indiana Jones Adventure transports me into the world of Indy, allowing me to be lenient and hold it to those rules while the Incredicoaster transports the Incredibles to the real world, causing me to hold it to those standards.

Yes, I reflected on it a bit more and came to a similar conclusion, but had already typed many paragraphs. I think we agree that its the essence of the explanation itself behind this attraction that is point zero of the stupidity.

I just don't want there to be criticisms of 'cinematic' rides moving forward that they all need explanations to have orchestration, when sometimes the opposite is true. Dinosaur has no music and it took me a long time to realize what exactly I don't like about that ride subconsciously, and that was it. It actually subconsciously feels like there should be music, even if there is no story element to support it. Orchestration is ultimately important to our cinematic experiences, whether they be movies or rides.

Perhaps just not coasters with tacky back stories. But... I actually like the Incredibles score.
 

mickEblu

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It's interesting how personally, hearing music in Star Tours and Indy doesn't bother me- but this does. Maybe it's because those rides embody the spirit of their source material, and are far more cinematic experiences than the Incredicoaster.

In the Indiana Jones Ride, I feel like I'm inside an adventure inside an Indiana Jones film. The whole thing is incredibly cinematic and epic, which the score helps build on. Same with something like Space Mountain, I accept it because for some subconscious reason, it works.

Perhaps if the Incredicoaster wasn't a hamfisted "this ride is named after you, the Incredible family" and was instead The Incredibles Adventure with an immersive queue, convincing effects, and a far more engaging story than chasing Jack Jack I'd accept it.

Indiana Jones Adventure transports me into the world of Indy, allowing me to be lenient and hold it to those rules while the Incredicoaster transports the Incredibles to the real world, causing me to hold it to those standards.


This. Plus of course the fact that you re on a seaside pier roller coaster with no show buildings.
 

SuddenStorm

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It all just circles back to this overlay being a net loss for the attraction.

I didn't need an explanation for there being music on California Screaming, I just accepted it, and loved it. The music embodied the feel and purpose of the attraction. It was purely experiential.

I guess the overall point is, which has already been pointed out repeatedly on this forum, it's better to have no story than a bad story.
 

dweezil78

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It's interesting how personally, hearing music in Star Tours and Indy doesn't bother me- but this does. Maybe it's because those rides embody the spirit of their source material, and are far more cinematic experiences than the Incredicoaster.

In the Indiana Jones Ride, I feel like I'm inside an adventure inside an Indiana Jones film. The whole thing is incredibly cinematic and epic, which the score helps build on. Same with something like Space Mountain, I accept it because for some subconscious reason, it works.

Perhaps if the Incredicoaster wasn't a hamfisted "this ride is named after you, the Incredible family" and was instead The Incredibles Adventure with an immersive queue, convincing effects, and a far more engaging story than chasing Jack Jack I'd accept it.

Indiana Jones Adventure transports me into the world of Indy, allowing me to be lenient and hold it to those rules while the Incredicoaster transports the Incredibles to the real world, causing me to hold it to those standards.

Personally, I don't think seaside pier rides (even if there is story involved) really adhere to any strict set of rules like you'd find in a more traditional immersive e-ticket attraction that spends time pulling you into an environment/world. I think with rides of this nature, it's hard to take it in beyond its surface value. It simply is a seaside rollercoaster that is trying to be a little more than what you'd usually find in one. I don't think any guest for a single second is going to get caught up or believe they are on some real Incredibles adventure though nor do I think that anyone at WDI, in their heart of hearts, ever expected them to.
 

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