News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

dlr74

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They stuck this horribly tacky sign on the walls surrounding the carousel. No concept art on the walls, no characters, nothing. Just this sign.
 

SuperStretccch

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.... okay, what? This is what took them five months to do? A bunch of still figures glued to the wall? That beginning in the lounge where Edna is just frozen there while JackJack bounces around the room is completely embarassing. Would it have killed them to make her an AA? Unless she is an AA, but just wasn't working, though I doubt that's the case.

Honestly, I was interested to see how they would execute this, but I didn't expect it to be this bad. The ride actually worked better with the simple pier theming rather than a tacked-on story and IP. What a disappointment. :rolleyes:
 

Californian Elitist

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At first glance I thought that photo was concept art of an unfinished product. Yeesh.

Also seems like poor theming to have a churro stand based on a short lived gag inside a film, and not based on the film that literally takes place in Mexico.

EXACTLY. Seriously, a kindergartner would have probably been able to figure that out. It makes too much sense, and yet we have Señor Buzz.

I’m concerned with who’s coming up with the ideas and even more concerned with who’s approving them.
 

Rich T

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Ok now I’m a little upset. My friend and I were planning to go to Bing Bong’s Sweet Stuff during our trip. Now that they have pushed back the date, it probably will not be there during our stay.

We were planning to get some for her kid’s birthday. They love Inside Out.

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If they really love Inside Out, they're coming out ahead if the candy shop is closed. Selling a dead character's tears is probably the most crass, greedy, unfeeling, grotesque money grab Disney's ever pulled.
 

BrianLo

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How's this for overthinking it:

Movie orchestral scores, like the Incredibles one, are implied to not exist inside that world. We know that there isn't loud music playing while the Incedibles are fighting evil. We don't think there's actually loud music playing in ancient Rome during Gladiator, or an epic score playing over hidden PA speakers in Jurassic Park, timed to get epic at just the right moments. The only exception is when it's showed that the characters are listening to that audio (like in Guardians of the Galaxy and Chris Pratt's Walkman"

So why in the heck is the Incedibles score playing on a coaster dedicated to the Incredibles? Is it ever established that that's Mr. Incredibles theme song for a TV show or something that exists in that world?

In order for a ride to be convincing, things have to subconsciously make sense. BTMRR and the rockwork look more convincing that the rockwork you find in Six Flags because it was done in such a way where it looks like the train had no choice but to follow the path it goes, not vice versa. They made it look like they hacked away at the rock to install the track, they didn't make it look like the rockwork melted up like lava and creeped around the supports. This is something most people don't notice, they just accept it. This is the audio equivalent of that.

They should have a line in the pre show that talks about how they hired someone to record an epic soundtrack for this new coaster to have it make sense. How else would a soundtrack that doesn't exist inside the Incredible's world be heard in a ride that's supposed to take place inside their world?

This is the kind of thing that Imagineers used to think about. Inside the Haunted Mansion, we can see the ghosts performing the song that you hear. Inside Pirates of the Caribbean, we can see them singing the song. In Guardian's of the Galaxy Mission Breakout, we hear the rabbit mention something about music and plug in.

Hmmmmm. I think that is maybe overthinking it. But you have me really thinking about it and I'm very unsure of my stance. We accept movie orchestral arrangements without an explanation, do theme park rides always need to have an explanation?

I'm torn because I see your point, but at the same time I don't know if it's one of those over explanation things that WDI loves to do. Does there always need to be a story behind why the music is playing? In some circumstances I think there can be some leniency for no explanation, because an explanation could be groan inducing.

Does something like Indiana Jones have an explanation behind the score? I highly suspect both Star Wars attractions will be scored and there will likewise be zero explanation, nor do I think in that case do I want for there to be one. I think "we pipe in Imperial music for morale" would be groan inducing.

Flight of passage is scored and I think it would be worse if wasn't or if they tried to explain why it was. Pretty much every land has some sort of background music playing without any real rationale reason why that would be the case. Why does Walt's Tomorrowland have a theme? And yet Joe Rohde who violated this tennant with a unexplained scored attraction purposefully did not pipe in music into the land, but environmental sounds.

Perhaps this is the global problem with adapting non-musical movies that are behold to scores. You can't exactly get a character to sing in the ride. But we let musical scores play in non-musical movies, is this really all that different in the end?

Anyways, sorry for the random train of thought... it's an interesting topic.
 

Curious Constance

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P.s., here’s the full thing.

The first and last scene should have motion as you go by those slowly; and the Jack jacks on sticks need to go.



Yikes.

You know when you're at the movies and they play a movie short created by some college kid who won some contest which is basically just an ad for Coca Cola or something, and it's so bad, the whole time you just want to crawl out of your skin in cringe? THAT'S what Incredicoaster reminds me of!!!
 

britain

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If they really love Inside Out, they're coming out ahead if the candy shop is closed. Selling a dead character's tears is probably the most crass, greedy, unfeeling, grotesque money grab Disney's ever pulled.


Maybe Pixar Pier takes place before he died.
 

Rich T

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I really feel that the Incredibles overlay will appeal to less people and not more. My uncle LOVED Screamin when he rode it for the first time last year. He loved the soundtrack and everything about it. For someone who’s not really into animated movies it can only make the experience worse. It’s one thing if it’s a high quality dark ride but this did nothing for the attraction and perhaps made it less appealing to a wider demographic. They spent money to make something worse.
They actually managed to take a great, non-themed roller coaster and make the experience less enjoyable.
 

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