News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[Disneylover152]

I mean did they charge people $300 to enter Pandora?

The thing about Disney World is that their are rarely any lcoals. It's 98% vacationers. So no vacationer is going to pay $300 for Pandora when they are on a strict budget. No vacationer is going to pay $300 for 6 hours in a land with two rides when they can pay half of that for a day in the Animal Kingdom, especially if on a time crunch.

Disney knows that the AP holders / locals are going to pay for this. Not the vacationers. And there are much more locals/AP holders in California then Disney World. So much more idiots who are going to pay that money.

That's why Pandora didn't have this. Vacationers won't pay for this. It's the locals. Disney will make more money having guest previews during those times rather than a $300 ticket event.

I bet if Pandora opened in Disneyland, there would be a $300 ticket event.

TBH I would pay to go to that ticket event if it was $40-50. Not $300.

 

[Rich T]

The real question is not whether we on a fan board think the project is appropriate, but rather if the consumers think its appropriate. As long as consumers eat what Disney is dishing out, then Disney's rep is just fine. You may disagree, but its not us as individuals that determine Disney's rep.

In the long run, though, low quality hurts the brand. They will reach a point where suddenly Joe Q. Public realizes they're not getting enough for the top dollar Disney charges. And they'll go elsewhere. (Right now it's hard to envision, but nothing lasts forever). Good management doesn't wait for the iceberg. You know who *does* wait for the iceberg? Execs who have their own personal lifeboats at the ready and couldn't care less about a park's future. They're in this for the short term.

 

[Rich T]

Disney used to be a wonderful, fascinating balancing act of art and business. They are out of balance, and art is losing.

 

[Disney Irish]

In the long run, though, low quality hurts the brand. They will reach a point where suddenly Joe Q. Public realizes they're not getting enough for the top dollar Disney charges. And they'll go elsewhere. (Right now it's hard to envision, but nothing lasts forever). Good management doesn't wait for the iceberg. You know who *does* wait for the iceberg? Execs who have their own personal lifeboats at the ready and couldn't care less about a park's future. They're in this for the short term.

And this I partially agree on. These type of projects are for the short term gains. Its to keep the "public" interested while waiting for the large scale projects of SW:GE and Marvel. The "public" in this case is the local APs.

 

[Disneylover152]

I wish they would just have The Incredicoaster and the Lamplight Lounge area. That's the only part that excites me about this project. Nothing else.

Also, The Incredicoaster would still get the attendance bump Disney wants AND it still could fit the theme of Paradise Pier (sorta). It could be The Incredibles are taking a visit to Paradise Pier and decide to ride California Screamin'. They take advantage of the Rider Switch option for Jack-Jack, and Edna Mode stays behind with Jack-Jack. But he wants to ride, and escape. So the Incredibles have to go save him.

It will still give them an attendance spike. I wonder why they decided to give the entire land a Pixar makeover?

 

[Rich T]

I wish they would just have The Incredicoaster and the Lamplight Lounge area. That's the only part that excites me about this project. Nothing else.

Also, The Incredicoaster would still get the attendance bump Disney wants AND it still could fit the theme of Paradise Pier (sorta). It could be The Incredibles are taking a visit to Paradise Pier and decide to ride California Screamin'. They take advantage of the Rider Switch option for Jack-Jack, and Edna Mode stays behind with Jack-Jack. But he wants to ride, and escape. So the Incredibles have to go save him.

It will still give them an attendance spike. I wonder why they decided to give the entire land a Pixar makeover?

Some day I hope we all get a good, accurate run down of exactly what happened here.

My main beef about Incredicoaster is how it's forcing a specific (and idiotic) linear narrative onto a very good roller coaster that I used to enjoy a lot. Think about it. You'll have to watch the freaking Incredibles chase their freaking brat every time you ride. Every. Time. From now on.

 

[Disneylover152]

My main beef about Incredicoaster is how it's forcing a specific (and idiotic) linear narrative onto a very good roller coaster that I used to enjoy a lot. Think about it. You'll have to watch the freaking Incredibles chase their freaking brat every time you ride. Every. Time. From now on.

But the same can be said about any other attraction in Disney Parks.

I have to watch a yeti destroy the track and threaten to grab us every time I ride.

I have to watch Peter Pan fly over Neverland every time I ride.

I have to watch ghosts take over a mansion every time I ride.

 

[nevol]

Remember when new rides and lands would just open... for free? with the cost of park admission? And they would do soft openings for APs and regular guests? Now they build a project that serves to advertise your vacation booking and the sale of theme park tickets, and charge extra for you to ride it early.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

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I was wondering if those were going to get removed.

 

[Rich T]

But the same can be said about any other attraction in Disney Parks.

I have to watch a yeti destroy the track and threaten to grab us every time I ride.

I have to watch Peter Pan fly over Neverland every time I ride.

I have to watch ghosts take over a mansion every time I ride.

This is different. You expect a story of sorts on those rides. They were designed for that. And the Yeti is just an obstacle to overcome, like an avalanche on Big Thunder.

In Screamin's case, they've taken an excellent roller coaster and forced an obnoxious character-centric storyline onto it. It wasn't designed for that. It was designed to be a great coaster experience, period. And that's what I'll miss. I wouldn't want to see Big Thunder transformed into a linear fight between Woody and Stinky Pete.

 

[nevol]

This is different. You expect a story of sorts on those rides. They were designed for that. And the Yeti is just an obstacle to overcome, like an avalanche on Big Thunder.

In Screamin's case, they've taken an excellent roller coaster and forced an obnoxious character-centric storyline onto it. It wasn't designed for that. It was designed to be a great coaster experience, period. And that's what I'll miss. I wouldn't want to see Big Thunder transformed into a linear fight between Woody and Stinky Pete.

This! California Screamin is a mental palette cleanser, a shot of adrenaline. Now, it may still be that way, and sure, some of the effects might look cool. But if there is corny on ride dialogue, it could distract riders and detract from the overall experience that once was.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Some day I hope we all get a good, accurate run down of exactly what happened here.

My main beef about Incredicoaster is how it's forcing a specific (and idiotic) linear narrative onto a very good roller coaster that I used to enjoy a lot. Think about it. You'll have to watch the freaking Incredibles chase their freaking brat every time you ride. Every. Time. From now on.

Preach. I don't even like babies

 

[Deleted member 107043]

They're in this for the short term.

I kind of see where you're going with this, but so far their IP or bust strategy for P&R doesn't seem to be faltering. They've doubled down on this strategy recently, but shoving characters where ever they can isn't a new phenomenon. Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters, for example, opened in Tomorrowland 13 years ago.

 

[Disney Irish]

I wish they would just have The Incredicoaster and the Lamplight Lounge area. That's the only part that excites me about this project. Nothing else.

Also, The Incredicoaster would still get the attendance bump Disney wants AND it still could fit the theme of Paradise Pier (sorta). It could be The Incredibles are taking a visit to Paradise Pier and decide to ride California Screamin'. They take advantage of the Rider Switch option for Jack-Jack, and Edna Mode stays behind with Jack-Jack. But he wants to ride, and escape. So the Incredibles have to go save him.



It will still give them an attendance spike. I wonder why they decided to give the entire land a Pixar makeover?

I'm in the same boat, Incredicoaster and the Lounge are what I'm interested in. The rest doesn't really appeal to me. Although I will say I'll probably try the Yeti Ice Cream.

 

[Curious Constance]

And yet someone was trying to conflate facts saying that you can take a trip to Tokyo Disneyland for the same prices as the Pixar Pier Preview Event. Which is obviously not the case.

No, that's not what they said at all. They said, "For less than $300 for 5 days of admission to Tokyo Disneyland".

They were simply comparing the price of 5 days at Tokyo to the price of 6 hours at DCA to ride Screamin with some new paint. No one said the people in Southern CA would be able to go to Tokyo for less than they could attend this party for.

 

[Disney Irish]

No, that's not what they said at all. They said, "For less than $300 for 5 days of admission to Tokyo Disneyland".

They were simply comparing the price of 5 days at Tokyo to the price of 6 hours at DCA to ride Screamin with some new paint. No one said the people in Southern CA would be able to go to Tokyo for less than they could attend this party for.

I guess I look at it different, but ok. To me its not a apple-to-apple comparison. If you are looking at just ticket prices, that doesn't equate out since a lot more goes into it. As someone who would have to travel to go to such an event, if you so choose not that you would, I would think that you would understand that.

But whatever, My apologies.

 

[Curious Constance]

I guess I look at it different, but ok. To me its not a apple-to-apple comparison. If you are looking at just ticket prices, that doesn't equate out since a lot more goes into it. As someone who would have to travel to go to such an event, if you so choose not that you would, I would think that you would understand that.

But whatever, My apologies.

No apology needed.

Another comparison we could make, a five day one park per day ticket to DL and DCA would cost you $320 or a 5 day park hopper would cost you $370. That's five continuous days of opening to closing, if you choose, at either park for just above the price they are asking you to pay for six hours of DCA. To ride the same rides most have already experienced dozens of times about 12 hours before everyone else will do it.

You've got to admit, that's asinine for Disney to ask of anyone.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

You've got to admit, that's asinine for Disney to ask of anyone.

Asinine, but don't you dare call it greedy.

 

[Disney Irish]

No apology needed.

Another comparison we could make, a five day one park per day ticket to DL and DCA would cost you $320 or a 5 day park hopper would cost you $370. That's five continuous days of opening to closing, if you choose, at either park for just above the price they are asking you to pay for six hours of DCA. To ride the same rides most have already experienced dozens of times about 12 hours before everyone else will do it.

You've got to admit, that's asinine for Disney to ask of anyone.

However that doesn't equate either because this isn't aimed at someone who'd normally pay for daily tickets. This is aimed at the AP/vlogger crowd who goes daily/weekly/monthly. Now if someone who normally pays for daily tickets also wants to pay for this event, well that is just silly.

 

[Curious Constance]

However that doesn't equate either because this isn't aimed at someone who'd normally pay for daily tickets. This is aimed at the AP/vlogger crowd who goes daily/weekly/monthly. Now if someone who normally pays for daily tickets also wants to pay for this event, well that is just silly.

Who cares who it's aimed at? Asking anyone to pay that for 6 hours in one park is ridiculous. APs and Vloggers have already paid hundreds of dollars for admission to the park and experienced all of these rides probably dozens of times each. So how is it any better to ask them to pay this? Or any less silly for them to pay it?