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[Kram Sacul]

And it made sense, in terms of its placement. Guardians in Hollywood Land makes as much logical sense as Alice in Wonderland.

They should've just had it still be the Hollywood Tower Hotel but with the Collector's pipes and DirecTv dishes growing out of it. It would've made more sense than the fortress/warehouse/power plant story nonsense they came up with.

 

[BrianLo]

Anyways, I think we can all agree that Mission Breakout was the low point and all their DCA projects moving forward only got better...

*looks at thread title*

 

[TROR]

Techincally no one wanted Pirates of the Caribbean either.

The Floridians did. Then they got an inferior version as a result.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Will you trust this? MB 110 minutes and RSR 120 minutes wait standby at this minute.

So how many elevator shafts were closed? I know M:B has been having some technical difficulties.

 

[Disneylover152]

Will you trust this? MB 110 minutes and RSR 120 minutes wait standby at this minute.

Mission Breakout has been having technical issues lately that have required gantry lifts to be closed as a result. You can't judge if the public wants the attraction or not unless the attraction is also running at full capacity. Then see what the wait time is compared to other attractions, cause in that picture Heimlich and Flik's are 30 minutes, but on a normal day, they are not more than 10 minutes.

 

[DanielBB8]

Mission Breakout has been having technical issues lately that have required gantry lifts to be closed as a result. You can't judge if the public wants the attraction or not unless the attraction is also running at full capacity. Then see what the wait time is compared to other attractions, cause in that picture Heimlich and Flik's are 30 minutes, but on a normal day, they are not more than 10 minutes.

It’s obvious it’s a busy day so the wait times reflect it especially with Flik’s and Hemlick. MB is 110 minutes, which doesn’t happen often. Standby wait times are self correcting. If it gets too long, people avoid the ride and ride something else. MB was 110 minutes wait all night long yesterday. This would be unusual for a ride the public rejects. Racers was 120 minutes long. Typically, both rides work to offset the wait times. In a typical day, RSR will have 90 minutes wait while MB gets 70 minutes wait.

 

[Phroobar]

The Floridians did. Then they got an inferior version as a result.

That proves the theory. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it.

Disney Imagineer: "We have this great new series of rides for Disney World. We call it Western River Expedition. It will be the most incredible thing we've ever done."

Public: "We wants the Pirates!"

Disney executives: "The public has spoken."

 

[Californian Elitist]

Wait times aren’t always accurate.

Using wait times as the sole predictor of a ride’s popularity doesn’t work.

 

[DanielBB8]

Wait times aren’t always accurate.

Using wait times as the sole predictor of a ride’s popularity doesn’t work.

What other than wait times? I was comparing wait times relative to other attractions so I’m not saying 110 wait time for MB is sufficient to decide it was popular. MB debut with 4 hours wait time. This is quite significant. Then it routinely reduced RSR wait times. You can also look at how quickly Fastpass runs out. It’s more likely MB Fastpasses will run out quicker than RSR.

All this tells me Mission Breakout is quite popular, but I guess you rather say it’s inconclusive, yet you suggest without anything but how you feel. A mere anecdote.

 

[Californian Elitist]

What other than wait times? I was comparing wait times relative to other attractions so I’m not saying 110 wait time for MB is sufficient to decide it was popular. MB debut with 4 hours wait time. This is quite significant. Then it routinely reduced RSR wait times. You can also look at how quickly Fastpass runs out. It’s more likely MB Fastpasses will run out quicker than RSR.

All this tells me Mission Breakout is quite popular, but I guess you rather say it’s inconclusive, yet you suggest without anything but how you feel. A mere anecdote.

And this tells me you don’t quite know what you’re talking about. When has a ride ever debuted with little to no wait times?

It absolutely is inconclusive. Have you ever worked at a theme park, specifically doing rides? I have, at two different parks, Disneyland included. No, wait times aren’t the sole indicator for a ride’s populatrity. Pirates is a very popular ride, however it’s common to zip through the line because of its high ride capacity. Casey’s line can get extremely long, but that doesn’t mean it’s one of the popular rides at Disneyland. Again, not all wait times are accurate. The ride could be posting a 110 minute wait, but guests could be waiting for a shorter amount of time, something you wouldn’t know just from looking at the time from wherever you are. The amount of people distributed throughout the park can also be factored in. And in terms of Fastpasses, they by definition make standby lines longer.

It’s not about how I feel, it’s about FACTS. Don’t come for me when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Stop pretending like you do.

 

[DanielBB8]

And this tells me you don’t quite know what you’re talking about. When has a ride ever debuted with little to no wait times?

It absolutely is inconclusive. Have you ever worked at a theme park, specifically doing rides? I have, at two different parks, Disneyland included. No, wait times aren’t the sole indicator for a ride’s populatrity. Pirates is a very popular ride, however it’s common to zip through the line because of its high ride capacity. Casey’s line can get extremely long, but that doesn’t mean it’s one of the popular rides at Disneyland. Again, not all wait times are accurate. The ride could be posting a 110 minute wait, but guests could be waiting for a shorter amount of time, something you wouldn’t know just from looking at the time from wherever you are. The amount of people distributed throughout the park can also be factored in. And in terms of Fastpasses, they by definition make standby lines longer.

It’s not about how I feel, it’s about FACTS. Don’t come for me when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Stop pretending like you do.

Comparing MB with Pirates and Casey is deflecting and tells me you’re just blowing smoke. Hand waving. These are not the credible FACTS you should be presenting. You present nothing, but your FEELINGS.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Comparing MB with Pirates and Casey is deflecting and tells me you’re just blowing smoke. Hand waving. These are not the credible FACTS you should be presenting. You present nothing, but your FEELINGS.

Wow.

It’s okay to admit you’re ignorant on the matter. At the same time, you don’t have to, since your posts prove that. I’ve explained it to you. It is a FACT that there are multiple indicators. It is what it is. I’m not going to go back and forth when I’ve already laid it out.

Bye.

 

[DanielBB8]

Wow.

It’s okay to admit you’re ignorant on the matter. At the same time, you don’t have to, since your posts prove that. I’ve explained it to you. It is a FACT that there are multiple indicators. It is what it is. I’m not going to go back and forth when I’ve already laid it out.

Bye.

Wow. You admit you have nothing of value since you won’t say why MB shouldn’t be considered popular. You just make assertions. Go ahead and say nothing.

NOT FACTS. MERE SPECULATION

“The ride could be posting a 110 minute wait, but guests could be waiting for a shorter amount of time, something you wouldn’t know just from looking at the time from wherever you are. The amount of people distributed throughout the park can also be factored in. And in terms of Fastpasses, they by definition make standby lines longer.”

 

[Disney Irish]

Wait times aren’t always accurate.

Using wait times as the sole predictor of a ride’s popularity doesn’t work.

I will just say that wait times are the only factor we have externally. Anything else is just conjecture and option on our part.

Disney is the only one who knows for sure whether something is popular or not.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Wow. You admit you have nothing of value since you won’t say why MB shouldn’t be considered popular. You just make assertions. Go ahead and say nothing.

NOT FACTS. MERE SPECULATION

“The ride could be posting a 110 minute wait, but guests could be waiting for a shorter amount of time, something you wouldn’t know just from looking at the time from wherever you are. The amount of people distributed throughout the park can also be factored in. And in terms of Fastpasses, they by definition make standby lines longer.”

You’re still trying to talk to me? I’ve already shut down the current conversation. Take the L.

Again, goodbye.

 

[DanielBB8]

I will just say that wait times are the only factor we have externally. Anything else is just conjecture and option on our part.

Disney is the only one who knows for sure whether something is popular or not.

Saying a ride has that has a 110 minutes wait doesn’t tell you ANYTHING is the “No one is going to Disneyland because it is too crowded” argument.

Logically impossible for two things to be true.

Tower of Terror routinely got 45 minutes wait. MB easily surpassed this on a daily basis.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I will just say that wait times are the only factor we have externally. Anything else is just conjecture and option on our part.

Disney is the only one who knows for sure whether something is popular or not.

Which was my entire point.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

What other than wait times? I was comparing wait times relative to other attractions so I’m not saying 110 wait time for MB is sufficient to decide it was popular. MB debut with 4 hours wait time. This is quite significant. Then it routinely reduced RSR wait times. You can also look at how quickly Fastpass runs out. It’s more likely MB Fastpasses will run out quicker than RSR.

All this tells me Mission Breakout is quite popular, but I guess you rather say it’s inconclusive, yet you suggest without anything but how you feel. A mere anecdote.

Wait times are a small proportion of what should be taken into consideration. What about rider capacity? Reliability average? Fastpass numbers? Probably a few more things i'm not thinking about right now.

They could easily be skewing the numbers to say M:B is popular, when it doesn't have much to do with M:B and everything to do with people's love for GotG (otherwise, I would have also put merchandising)

Quite frankly, saying wait times is the only indicator of popularity just isn't correct.

 

[Disney Irish]

Which was my entire point.

Which makes both sides of this endless argument inaccurate in their assertions.

So in the end, let's just say that GotG:MB is an attraction that guests flock to just like any other attraction in DCA. It doesn't matter if its popular or unpopular based on opinion, guests ride it and that is all that matters.

 

[DanielBB8]

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Wait times are a small proportion of what should be taken into consideration. What about rider capacity? Reliability average? Fastpass numbers? Probably a few more things i'm not thinking about right now.

They could easily be skewing the numbers to say M:B is popular, when it doesn't have much to do with M:B and everything to do with people's love for GotG (otherwise, I would have also put merchandising)

Quite frankly, saying wait times is the only indicator of popularity just isn't correct.

Supposedly if popularity is separate from wait times, then perhaps rider capacity, reliability, Fastpass has absolutely nothing to do with it as well. Then popularity is a separate statistic.

But we are talking about rides and people’s willingness to ride it.

If a broken ride is an issue, no one would care if they couldn’t ride it. Then why would people routinely wait hours to go on it?