Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
Is the monorail real or is this an April Fools joke?
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier
- Thread starter iHeartDisneylandCats
- Start date
Disneylover152
Well-Known Member
The (horrible) theme of The Incredicoaster is that you are on Pixar Pier, and its the opening day of The Incredicoaster. The Incredibles Coaster on the loop fits the theme of the Incredicoaster because its not a roller coaster capturing Jack Jack, its a Six Flags style Roller Coaster with The Incredibles details, just like The Joker coaster at Six Flags is a coaster with Joker details. It just so happens that Jack Jack escaped onto the Roller Coaster.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
Hey well get back to me when you remember....
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
Speaking of April fools where in the hell are my hot dogs!?
TROR
Well-Known Member
I mean, it does. As much as I love the original DCA, it sucked. Also currently, it sucks. There was a brief window between 2012 and 2015 where it was a really good second gate. No Disneyland, mind you, but good. However, that time has passed. Is it possible that it can be good again? Sure. I just don't see that in the near future at all.
I am still going to stand by my statement that the original "CALIFORNIA" letters were iconic, though, because I never once went to DCA as a kid but I still knew them because you didn't have to enter DCA to know them. Same with Tower of Terror, the original Paradise Pier, and Grizzly Peak. I suppose the argument could be made that Mission Breakout and new Paradise Pier will become iconic, but unlike TOT and PP, they're really ugly in the skyline.
Unfortunately, no.
I've been excited for The Incredibles 2 ever since 2004, but honestly after seeing the trailer they put out and now them pounding me over the head with these ads in the parks, I'm approaching with caution. I expect this movie to just be another Finding Dory at this point; ie it makes a ton of money and Twitter loves because "muh childhood" it but it's forgettable and nothing special at all.
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
The monorail is awful. I was also looking forward to Incredibles 2 because the first one is one of my favorite Pixar movies, but the trailer looked very bad. I didn't even crack a smile once bad. And after the smack me in the head advertising I have nearly zero interest.
I've actually been thinking lately. Is there a point where Disney is so terrible I can't stomach them anymore? I used to think no, but now I'm thinking there may come a time, sooner than I imagined, where I no longer feel like discussing and following Disney daily. I think I need a nice, long Disney break.
D
Deleted member 107043
Thanks, but my response to you was an attempt to make a point that these kinds of debates often veer off into pointless arguing over opinions. In the end no one can remember what the original conversation was about. It's kind of exhausting.
Anyway, my main argument wasn't an assertion that the coaster is indeed iconic (although I believe it is for many) it was that placing The Incredibles logo on it is a bad idea partly because of the ride's significance as a large featured element inside DCA. Somehow that got derailed into a debate about whether anything at DCA is worthy of being called iconic.
Last edited by a moderator:
Disneylover152
Well-Known Member
I know I'm probably in the minority on this, but Finding Dory is my favorite Pixar sequel.
TROR
Well-Known Member
You're right. You're in the minority. You're also objectively wrong. It's not as bad as The Good Dinosaur or Brave, but it does not deserve the praise college girls give it.
Disneylover152
Well-Known Member
dweezil78
Well-Known Member
That’s what I mean... the attractions and layout sure, not so much whatever the graphics package of the decade are at the time.
nevol
Well-Known Member
The logo looks lame, but if it is in reference to the image of the I in the loop of the coaster in real life, it would make more sense. Honestly, the whole concept is theme park IP integration at its worst. Or is it just THEMED to theme park IP integration at its worst?
For that reason, I think putting the I logo would actually be a good move. Just make the coaster as flashy as possible with the red and the logo and stop trying to walk it back with some class or the pixar pier text in the loop. The problem with the Pixar Pier text is that, who is intended to read it? The font is too small to even be legible to many from Paradise Park, making it bad design, even if it is less obnoxious than the i logo. The roof of Midway mania is blue now, so contrasting it with red would be stronger than washing it out with beige. The coaster is a nice backdrop. People are discussing whether or not it is iconic, but I ask you; what is more iconic: CA screamin or the Incredible Hulk Coaster? Their efforts are toward a more exciting ICC level of weinie-ing from the more pleasant, passive backdrop that the coaster currently is. The ip is more humorous and family friendly than a serious superhero film, and they want the coaster to appeal to families still, so the jokeyness that is Pixar Pier is kind of a perfect dilution of hulk's presence at ioa. Real superheroes live in the marvel land, with real immersive experiences. The fake animated comedy superhero family gets their attraction on the IP theme park parody pier. DCA will have 4 major superhero attractions as early as 2020, divided by Marvel and Pixar, Live-action and animated, convincing immersion and not.
Long Story Short: It is already set to be obnoxious and a slightly underwhelming overlay of that area of the park. Make it so obnoxious that it is self aware and funny and kind of exciting in the process.
For that reason, I think putting the I logo would actually be a good move. Just make the coaster as flashy as possible with the red and the logo and stop trying to walk it back with some class or the pixar pier text in the loop. The problem with the Pixar Pier text is that, who is intended to read it? The font is too small to even be legible to many from Paradise Park, making it bad design, even if it is less obnoxious than the i logo. The roof of Midway mania is blue now, so contrasting it with red would be stronger than washing it out with beige. The coaster is a nice backdrop. People are discussing whether or not it is iconic, but I ask you; what is more iconic: CA screamin or the Incredible Hulk Coaster? Their efforts are toward a more exciting ICC level of weinie-ing from the more pleasant, passive backdrop that the coaster currently is. The ip is more humorous and family friendly than a serious superhero film, and they want the coaster to appeal to families still, so the jokeyness that is Pixar Pier is kind of a perfect dilution of hulk's presence at ioa. Real superheroes live in the marvel land, with real immersive experiences. The fake animated comedy superhero family gets their attraction on the IP theme park parody pier. DCA will have 4 major superhero attractions as early as 2020, divided by Marvel and Pixar, Live-action and animated, convincing immersion and not.
Long Story Short: It is already set to be obnoxious and a slightly underwhelming overlay of that area of the park. Make it so obnoxious that it is self aware and funny and kind of exciting in the process.
Last edited:
Disney Irish
Premium Member
For you those things are iconic.
I ran an unscientific poll tonight with my friends that couldn't care less about Disney or DCA. I asked them to tell me one thing they knew about DCA. Not one could name me anything, some didn't even know it was next door to DL. No CALIFORNIA letters, no ToT, no Paradise Pier and certainly no Grizzly Peak. Point is there is a very large population out there, and I would say quite a few don't give a rats a** about Disney or DCA. So just because you personally, which is your right, feel the CALIFORNIA letter or ToT, or whatever is iconic about DCA doesn't mean others do.
TROR
Well-Known Member
Aight but those people would also call Sleeping Beauty Castle "Cinderella's Castle" so really nothing at the DLR is iconic. Only Cinderella Castle, the Tree of Life, Epcot golfball, and the Mickey hat are all at all WDW
Disneylover152
Well-Known Member
I asked my friends the same question. All they knew was Tower of Terror. They actually never knew DCA existed.
D
Deleted member 107043
Yeah it's like the people I once overheard at EPCOT saying they wanted to go to Disney World when they meant Magic Kingdom.
Kman101
Well-Known Member
Remember the days of a themed parade for the newest release and that was about it (maybe a well done stage show, not a glorified sing-along)? Now they have to beat you over the head with it.