George Lucas on a Bench
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Nothing at DCA is iconic.
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George Lucas on a Bench
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I can admit when I'm wrong.
Disneylover152
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In order for something to be iconic, I believe it needs to be something people who have never been to Disney knows about. So things like Tower of Terror, The World Showcase at Epcot, Peter Pan's Flight, all the mountains. I don't know one person who knows anything in Paradise Pier in DCA, besides Mickey's Fun Wheel.
George Lucas on a Bench
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Most people don't even know that. DCA is not well-known outside the AP crowd and fans.
People know what DL, TMK, EPCOT and the animal and movie parks are. Nobody knows wth Disney's California Adventure is. Not even Disney.
People know what DL, TMK, EPCOT and the animal and movie parks are. Nobody knows wth Disney's California Adventure is. Not even Disney.
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I have a fair number of friends with kids who aren't Disney fans, but visit the resort occasionally and Cars Land is probably the thing I hear them talk about most.
The unique view of Paradise Pier across Paradise Bay is used a lot in Disneyland Resort advertising and is the backdrop for the park's well known nighttime show, World of Color, among other things, all of which makes it widely regarded as iconic.
Not everyone is going to join hands and agree with the iconic status of California Screamin', but I do think we can all agree that putting the Incredibles logo on the coaster will have a disruptive visual impact, assuming that's what they plan to do.
TROR
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I'll somewhat agree. I think the original with the Mickey Mouse loop was more iconic, frankly. But I don't think you have to worry about the Incredibles logo going in the center. Only thing to suggest that it would be is the Incredible coaster logo but everything else seems to suggest otherwise. Wait nevermind the Critter Carousel has it in the concept art, doesn't it? I'm wrong. They're definitely doing this. It's going to be bad. Did y'all see the Monorail wrapping? It's terrible and now I know for a fact they're going to do this. Ugh.I have a fair number of friends with kids who aren't Disney fans, but visit the resort occasionally and Cars Land is probably the thing I hear them talk about most.
The unique view of Paradise Pier across Paradise Bay is used a lot in Disneyland Resort advertising and is the backdrop for the park's well known nighttime show, World of Color, which I believe makes it widely regarded as iconic.
Putting the Incredibles logo on the coaster will have a massive impact, assuming that's what they plan to do.
mickEblu
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I have a fair number of friends with kids who aren't Disney fans, but visit the resort occasionally and Cars Land is probably the thing I hear them talk about most.
The unique view of Paradise Pier across Paradise Bay is used a lot in Disneyland Resort advertising and is the backdrop for the park's well known nighttime show, World of Color, among other things, all of which makes it widely regarded as iconic.
Not everyone is going to join hands and agree with the iconic status of California Screamin', but I do think we can all agree that putting the Incredibles logo on the coaster will have a disruptive visual impact, assuming that's what they plan to do.
I agree. Mickey’s Fun Wheel has made it into iconic status as well as the Radiator Springs Mountain Range.
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@TROR The skinned monorail is just awful. Yep, let's just hit the captive audience guests over the head as many times we can with The Incredibles stuff to make sure they don't forget to see our new movie this summer. I guess the rethemed coaster, the parade, and the fireworks show all featuring The Incredibles wasn't enough.
The one thing I cannot stand about Disneyland now is how the experience often feels like an aggressive Disney sales pitch. The place has gradually evolved into one gigantic advertisement for Disney. In that regard it's so very different from what it used to be.
The one thing I cannot stand about Disneyland now is how the experience often feels like an aggressive Disney sales pitch. The place has gradually evolved into one gigantic advertisement for Disney. In that regard it's so very different from what it used to be.
Disneylover152
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I have a fair number of friends with kids who aren't Disney fans, but visit the resort occasionally and Cars Land is probably the thing I hear them talk about most.
The unique view of Paradise Pier across Paradise Bay is used a lot in Disneyland Resort advertising and is the backdrop for the park's well known nighttime show, World of Color, among other things, all of which makes it widely regarded as iconic.
Not everyone is going to join hands and agree with the iconic status of California Screamin', but I do think we can all agree that putting the Incredibles logo on the coaster will have a disruptive visual impact, assuming that's what they plan to do.
I don't agree... I think that it's not the best thing to put on their, but I don't think its gonna have as big as a visual impact as you are saying its going to have.
This kind of goes to everyone. Pixar Pier is cheap. Even non-Disney Fans think that. But just because its cheap doesn't mean you have to criticize everything in Pixar Pier. Everyone for months said "Who will be replacing Mickey on the fun wheel, If they don't keep Mickey on there I'm gonna flip". When the concept art was released with Mickey still remaining, those same people said "Why did they keep Mickey on there, It makes no sense". When the carousel was lacking detail, fans were like "The Carousel better not get upgraded to a Nemo theme, that would be lazy and stupid". Then as usual, the carousel was announced as a Toy Story theme and Disney fans went bizzark "Critter Carousel!?!? What kind of name is that?" Disney fans make no sense. They get overly outraged over every little change in Disney Parks.
Why can't we have a fun land themed to Pixar in the parks? Not everything needs to transport you into a new time period to be considered a Disney themed land. Some things can be a fun land with spinners and attractions. Not everything needs to be highly immersive experience with you being 360 immersed in the land. Sure, we have lands like Buena Vista Street and Cars Land which are all highly immersive and detailed and we have things like A Bugs Land. Just fun.
Also, why isn't Pixar a theme? Those people saying "Pixar isn't a theme" are the same people who are already lining themselves up for Star Wars land or Marvel land. Please let me know why Marvel can be a theme and have its own land but Pixar can't. If Pixar can't have its own land well then I guess Fantasyland shouldn't exist. I mean, its a collection of stories that all have nothing to do with eachother right next to eachother all made by the same movie studio. That can't be allowed. Take the giant teacups out of Fantasyland, they make no sense right next to a giant Matterhorn Mountain, which isn't Fantasy either. Things in Disney don't have a theme.
Believe me, when Disney announced Pixar Pier, I hated it. I thought about how it was just a stupid sales pitch to get people to see The Incredibles 2 and to buy more Inside Out merchandise. I thought it was cheap. I thought it made no sense. = I hate the new Incredibles monorail skin. I hate the idea of Guardians of the Galaxy towering over DCA. But if you think about it, it's DCA. It's the sister park to Disneyland nobody cares about.
But think about this by the name. It's not Disney taking you on a Californian Adventure, it's a Californian Adventure, disneyfied. It's the Incredibles and Toy Story showing you seaside boardwalks. It's UP friends showing you the wonders of the Redwoods. It's Cars Characters introducing the Car culture of California, as well as the great route 66.
I don't want Pixar Pier either. I want my golden age of seaside amusement parks with Paradise Pier and Mickey Mouse gang back. But I've said this many times. Pixar Pier is okay. Change is okay. We don't like Pixar or change, but its not the end of the world. And no matter what you say, Pixar Pier fits the theme of DCA as much as Fantasyland fits the theme of Disneyland.
I think I've made this rant a few times on these forums, but these things need to be said. Disney fans are some of the best fandom to be apart of, but its also the worst fans to be apart of. And think of it this way, in 10 years Iger and Chapek will be out, and hopefully we get someone who cares less about making money and selling more stuffed animals.
britain
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I actually think that Monorail wrap is pretty nicely done.
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dweezil78
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I have a fair number of friends with kids who aren't Disney fans, but visit the resort occasionally and Cars Land is probably the thing I hear them talk about most.
The unique view of Paradise Pier across Paradise Bay is used a lot in Disneyland Resort advertising and is the backdrop for the park's well known nighttime show, World of Color, among other things, all of which makes it widely regarded as iconic.
Not everyone is going to join hands and agree with the iconic status of California Screamin', but I do think we can all agree that putting the Incredibles logo on the coaster will have a disruptive visual impact, assuming that's what they plan to do.
IMO It’s hardly iconic (as far as artwork/logos go) when just 10 years ago the pier looked like this...
In a few months it’ll look different again and in 10 years everyone will have forgotten about that sun and then Disney will probably change it again!
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You don't think slapping a giant film logo elevated on the exterior of a ride isn't going to have a big impact when that's exactly what it is meant to do?
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IMO It’s hardly iconic (as far as artwork/logos go) when just 10 years ago the pier looked like this...
In a few months it’ll look different again and in 10 years everyone will have forgotten about that sun and then Disney will probably change it again!
I guess it depends on what you consider iconic then. When I see that image it immediately says DCA to me, and I assume it would be widely recognized by others as DCA. There's no other Disney theme park on earth (yet) with those attractions and aligned in such a way.
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They've been installed at the State Fairgrounds in Sacramento. I keep telling myself I need to check them out the next time I'm up there.
Disney Irish
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Iconography is based on perspective. What is iconic to one person is not necessarily going to be iconic to others.
For example if you grew up going to DCA when it first opened then the big giant CALIFORNIA letters and the Sun on the Fun Wheel and Mickey's head on the Screamin' loop are iconic. Someone who started going to DCA in the last 6-8 years would see something else, like Mickey's head on the Fun Wheel as iconic.
And then there are some who see nothing at DCA as iconic because to them it pales in comparison to DL and it never will. Now to me those people are sad....
Point is none of them are wrong, its all based on their perspective. But as someone said, if you asked a person who wasn't a Disney fan what was iconic about DCA, I'd venture to guess most won't come up with an answer. All because its not important to them, from their perspective DCA doesn't register very much.
For example if you grew up going to DCA when it first opened then the big giant CALIFORNIA letters and the Sun on the Fun Wheel and Mickey's head on the Screamin' loop are iconic. Someone who started going to DCA in the last 6-8 years would see something else, like Mickey's head on the Fun Wheel as iconic.
And then there are some who see nothing at DCA as iconic because to them it pales in comparison to DL and it never will. Now to me those people are sad....
Point is none of them are wrong, its all based on their perspective. But as someone said, if you asked a person who wasn't a Disney fan what was iconic about DCA, I'd venture to guess most won't come up with an answer. All because its not important to them, from their perspective DCA doesn't register very much.
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Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
