News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

Practical Pig

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This one gives the shot from the other day a run for its money. Also from Reddit...

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Yeah, not gonna lie... it is very photogenic! The awesome California sky doesn't hurt. Here's one I snapped a few months back!

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Two gorgeous and topically appropriate sundown on Paradise Pier photos. Thanks. I've also very much enjoyed the pier during these golden hours. I expect to enjoy it still, albeit with a bit more IP noise in the signal.
 

Nland316

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I really wish they would extend the boardwalk all the way up to the back of those projector boxes on both sides of the Ferris wheel. it would give them a reason to hide the ugly concrete box.
They have plenty of room there to add a nice sitting area with a couple vending stalls and also a walkway that would lead from that area to the bottom portion of the silly Symphony boardwalk. If they had done that they could have even added a new structure that incorporated the hot dog stand and used that for the Candy shop. The area they have designated for the Candy shop and theater could then have been extended with a larger show building up to where they plan on putting the toy story ball fountain. Perfect place to have created an indoor experience
It would also help with guest flow as well as give that dead space some use.
Something similar was originally mocked up on the model that used to be found in the Blue Sky Cellar.
 

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Disneylover152

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Like many others, I was not a fan of this announcement. But there's a way to look at it where cheap, out of place, inserts of famous characters actually makes sense for Paradise Pier.

I picture it this way: "Paradise Pier- an old style amusement park built around the turn of the century (20th century). It has changed over the years, added new rides, updated rides, and kept the classics as any old amusement park would do. To drum up interest with kids and bring new life into the park, the (fictional) owners of Paradise Pier have purchased the rights to Pixar characters from the Walt Disney Company to use in their park!" This is no different than Knotts using Peanuts characters or Kennywood using Garfield characters.

California Adventure now has a land whose theme is a run-of-the-mill theme park :joyfull:

It's Dinoland all over again...
 

Ismael Flores

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Something similar was originally mocked up on the model that used to be found in the Blue Sky Cellar.
i remember that, its a shame that they didn't go ahead with that idea. i would have also expanded that boardwalk on either side of the wheel. There is actually quite a bit of space behind those projectors that could be used for park use and minimize the size of the bay without interfering with WOC. There must be a way to still go ahead with something like this, i know that some projectors are really close to the concrete wall on the north side where it shows that section of boardwalk in that model but there also must be a way of integrating the one of two that are into the structure.

just look at how much of the bay is unused that could be easily be recovered to extend the Pier area even if it is used to add sitting area and more themed snack shops.

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Ismael Flores

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I'm really surprised they didn't tackle this area of the park first before closing off the Pier area. I would think that adding some capacity to the park with a new indoor attraction that can be enjoyed by everyone in the family would be more beneficial at the moment would be a priority. They could have easily have started it a few months back instead of doing maintenace on goofy sky skool and have it open in time to help with overflow from SWGE.

This whole area of the park minus the garden area could easily be reworked to add a good size indoor darkride experience. Remove the less popular eating facility and relocate it over to a nicely themed facility in the area that i marked in red. make it so that it had rooftop seating like many of the ocean side eateries. then use the land marked in blue for a good size darkride.
Instead they decide to work on the Pier and add only a relocated spinner which could have been done in sections without cutting away capacity
 

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JD2000

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So, about that coaster:

Is it just me or was the on-board music once louder? I do hope the incredicoaster is louder and very synchronized. Because when
the music was audible, it really added to the experience.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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So, about that coaster:

Is it just me or was the on-board music once louder? I do hope the incredicoaster is louder and very synchronized. Because when
the music was audible, it really added to the experience.

It varied from train to train, ride to ride, over the past few years. I rode once, audio was almost inaudible. A couple weeks ago I almost lost my eardrums to the soundtrack.
 

DLR92

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I get the arguments against a generic ride based land, I think they could have kept the generic rides and fleshed it out with a few pierside dark rides.... but seriously, that kind of setting is one of my favourites in the world. Piers are so romantic, dynamic, kinetic, and fun.

Disney should just invest in a dark ride. Than spending money on a roller cheater slapping with special effects and characters from Incredibles. Ugh. :banghead:
 

No Name

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I also have heard the speed of the ride depends on where you sit. It shouldn't be like that imo.

Did you also have to walk uphill both ways to get to school when you were young? ;)

If you weren't joking... the cars of a coaster train are all connected, so they all go the exact same speed at the exact same time. Of course, not in the exact same location, which can make certain seats more thrilling than others. But that's the laws of physics, which hold for every coaster. It's not something Disney can just change.
 

Disney Irish

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Did you also have to walk uphill both ways to get to school when you were young? ;)

If you weren't joking... the cars of a coaster train are all connected, so they all go the exact same speed at the exact same time. Of course, not in the exact same location, which can make certain seats more thrilling than others. But that's the laws of physics, which hold for every coaster. It's not something Disney can just change.

But but Disney Magic....
 

habuma

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...the cars of a coaster train are all connected, so they all go the exact same speed at the exact same time. Of course, not in the exact same location, which can make certain seats more thrilling than others. But that's the laws of physics, which hold for every coaster. It's not something Disney can just change.

Exactly this: In general, the front seats on any coaster are less thrilling than the back seats. Think of it this way: As a train begins to make its move over the top of a hill, the train is moving slow (relative to what it was moving before going up the hill). The cars in front crest that hill at a slow pace and have the cars in the back keeping them from moving any faster over the hill. But as more cars make it over the hill, the speed picks up. Therefore, the last car of the train goes over the top faster than the first car...which makes the whole ride feel more thrilling. Sure, at that same time, the front car is moving at the same speed, but by that time it is already down the hill and therefore it's less exciting.

This is why I generally prefer sitting as far back on a coaster as possible. Sitting in the front is slightly more boring. I personally have one exception to that rule: Rock 'n RollerCoaster in DHS. On that coaster, the back cars are whipped a lot harder and thus my head is beat around on the restraints more. I'd prefer to sit in the front of that coaster, because it's plenty thrilling in the front and I leave with less of a headache.
 
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Exactly this: In general, the front seats on any coaster are less thrilling than the back seats. Think of it this way: As a train begins to make its move over the top of a hill, the train is moving slow (relative to what it was moving before going up the hill). The cars in front crest that hill at a slow pace and have the cars in the back keeping them from moving any faster over the hill. But as more cars make it over the hill, the speed picks up. Therefore, the last car of the train goes over the top faster than the first car...which makes the whole ride feel more thrilling. Sure, at that same time, the front car is moving at the same speed, but by that time it is already down the hill and therefore it's less exciting.

This is why I generally prefer sitting as far back on a coaster as possible. Sitting in the front is slightly more boring. I personally have one exception to that rule: Rock 'n RollerCoaster in DHS. On that coaster, the back cars are whipped a lot harder and thus my head is beat around on the restraints more. I'd prefer to sit in the front of that coaster, because it's plenty thrilling in the front and I leave with less of a headache.

I always request the back seat on every coaster at Disney Parks because they generally aren't very fast. Years ago I sat near the front on Big Thunder and it was so different from sitting in back.
 

habuma

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I always request the back seat on every coaster at Disney Parks because they generally aren't very fast. Years ago I sat near the front on Big Thunder and it was so different from sitting in back.

Yeah, the front on Big Thunder is kind of a bore.

Come to think of it, I can't say I've noticed any advantages or disadvantages to the front or back on Expedition Everest. Maybe because it goes backwards for a portion of the ride...maybe because there are more twists and turns than hills. I dunno.

But on a coaster like California Screamin' IncrediCoaster, which is almost nothing but hills, the back is going to be more fun than the front.
 

dweezil78

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I always request the back seat on every coaster at Disney Parks because they generally aren't very fast. Years ago I sat near the front on Big Thunder and it was so different from sitting in back.

I'd say the back seat on a lot of coasters is the way to go, especially rides like Big Thunder and other wooden coasters where you get whipped around a lot and there's good opportunity for air time. But with California Screamin' (and bigger inverted steel type coasters) it is wayyyy worth the extra wait to get the very front seat. Totally different ride experience, especially due to the launch.
 

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