News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

Darkbeer1

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https://www.ocregister.com/2018/01/...e-favorite-disney-california-adventure-rides/

>>By 8:30 a.m. hundreds of people were already in line to have a last cocktail at the Cove Bar overlooking the pier, including Darlene Kenworthy and Martinique Folkeringa of Anaheim and their friend Aprille Curtis of Burbank.
“We already went on Screamin’ and got our Fastpasses for souvenirs,” Kenworthy said, referring to the paper slips that visitors can get to return for a later ride. She didn’t plan to use it, but to keep it for her memory book. “This is the last time to experience it.”<<

>>This latest major renovation continues the trend of deemphasizing the theme of California in the park, where officials have struggled to reinvent it after a rocky start. When the area reopens to the public in the summer, possibly by June, it will be divided into three distinct neighborhoods based on Pixar movies. A preview of the new area will be available starting April 13 for a first-ever Pixar Fest celebration.
The Incredibles neighborhood will include the former California Screamin’ but redecorated with a new theme from the comic superhero Incredibles movie.
The area around Mickey’s Fun Wheel will be a mashup celebrating various Pixar characters and movies, as yet to be announced. The Toy Story ride will remain here, as it was a Pixar production and remains popular. The Ferris wheel will be freshened up with new characters on the gondolas.
Another neighborhood at the existing arcade area will feature characters from the movie “Inside Out.” Details have not yet been announced. Plans for remodeling Ariel’s Grotto and the Cove Bar have also been kept under wraps.
“The food needs to change, because the menu was tired,” Folkeringa said. “I used to love the lobster nachos but I can’t stand them anymore.”<<


 

Darkbeer1

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This is perhaps the most AP statement I have ever heard.


Hey, I can relate to the Lobster Nachos, the first few times they were great, both in portion size, and in taste, but they got old.

What I miss is the original Wolfgang Puck's clam chowder. In the evening, with a bit of a chill, that and a beer was and end of the day trip, and it was always quiet.

I also loved the fact that the employee's would talk about backstage crap, since they were employed by Puck, not Disney. Got a few scoops that way....
 

Darkbeer1

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Never got a chance to try them myself, I suppose that ship has sailed.
Try the new Incredible nachos, made with Gluten free chips,
Tofutti 'Better Than Ricotta Cheese' and this....




Edited to add.... Corn Tortilla Chips are naturally Gluten Free, since they are not made from wheat ;)
 
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LSUxStitch

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I'm not a local and have only been a couple of time, but I'm looking forward to the change. I don't think the overall look of the pier will change much. Of course, up close, you'll have the Pixar touches, but from afar you'll still have the same silhouette with the Fun Wheel and Coaster.

Just some photos to remember it by...

Mickeys Wheel of Death...errr Fun Wheel! by Sean S, on Flickr

Pier Pressure by Sean S, on Flickr

And of course, I'm pretty psyched they decided to keep the Mickey FunWheel logo, for obvious reasons. ;)

Untitled by Sean S, on Flickr
 

EricsBiscuit

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This is exactly the business strategy that really tests my Disney fanaticism. Ugh. Does literally EVERYTHING have to be a vehicle for profit at Disney P&R? I hope guests reject this nonsense and let the shirts collect dust on the racks. I'm trying to be a nicer person in 2018, but if I saw someone wearing either one of those in the parks I'd be struggling hard not to roll my eyes.
It's a business, of course it's about profit, and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. Now you can argue that thematically cohesive, "original ideas" make more in the long run but the business model they're going with now is IPs.
 
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It's a business, of course it's about profit, and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. Now you can argue that thematically cohesive, "original ideas" make more in the long run but the business model they're going with now is IPs.

Really? It's a for profit business? Thanks for letting me know because I had no idea that's what it was.
 

smile

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completely legitimate that TWDC creates initiatives attempting to wring every spare penny out of something...
completely legitimate for fans/guests to perceive certain said initiatives as cheese cash grabs - some certainly are, blatantly so.

kicker is, many such 'grabs' come with willing participants already built-in
 

Rich T

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It's a business, of course it's about profit, and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. Now you can argue that thematically cohesive, "original ideas" make more in the long run but the business model they're going with now is IPs.
There's something wrong with it when it hurts/cheapens the very thing that gathered fans in the first place. That's when a company stumbles into "Killing the Golden Goose" territory. The problem many fans have with Disney right now is that it truly appears many folks calling the shots are only interested in short-term results for their own career benefit--not a long-term goal of maintaining the unique balance of art and business that's allowed Disney to thrive as a studio with an actual identity for this long.
 

Darkbeer1

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There's something wrong with it when it hurts/cheapens the very thing that gathered fans in the first place. That's when a company stumbles into "Killing the Golden Goose" territory. The problem many fans have with Disney right now is that it truly appears many folks calling the shots are only interested in short-term results for their own career benefit--not a long-term goal of maintaining the unique balance of art and business that's allowed Disney to thrive as a studio with an actual identity for this long.

As someone who went through this in the 1990's and early 2000's with DCA 1.0, Save Disney (Fight to get Eisner to step down) and similar things, it is a pendulum, if you don't like what Disney is delivering now, then you need to speak up, and do it loudly.

Disney is scrambling now due to how poorly the latest Star Wars film is doing currently. They will make a profit, but not the size they wanted, and that will effect what will happen in the future.

I think the best thing about the pier redo is to for other firms and Theme Parks, in which they can do better, and will push them to do it.
 

EricsBiscuit

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Really? It's a for profit business? Thanks for letting me know because I had no idea that's what it was.
Well then why ask if everything is about profit?
There's something wrong with it when it hurts/cheapens the very thing that gathered fans in the first place. That's when a company stumbles into "Killing the Golden Goose" territory. The problem many fans have with Disney right now is that it truly appears many folks calling the shots are only interested in short-term results for their own career benefit--not a long-term goal of maintaining the unique balance of art and business that's allowed Disney to thrive as a studio with an actual identity for this long.
While I think that Pixar Pier is a poor decision, SWL and Pandora most certainly aren't.
 
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Well then why ask if everything is about profit?

It wasn't a literal question. It was more of a rant against Disneyland's relatively recent practice of capitalizing on everything, including the retheming of classic attractions. I'm also expressing a bit disappointment and disillusionment that fans have such a rabid appreciation for this stuff.
 

Phroobar

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Disney is scrambling now due to how poorly the latest Star Wars film is doing currently. They will make a profit, but not the size they wanted, and that will effect what will happen in the future.
How is $1.2 billion world wide in three weeks considered doing poorly? That is like saying every Marvel movie did poorly because it didn't make more than the Avengers. We are getting a new Star Wars movie every year. There is no way everyone of those is going to do better than the last one. It's unrealistic. Of course, movie companies are extremely unrealistic.
 

dweezil78

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This is exactly the business strategy that really tests my Disney fanaticism. Ugh. Does literally EVERYTHING have to be a vehicle for profit at Disney P&R? I hope guests reject this nonsense and let the shirts collect dust on the racks. I'm trying to be a nicer person in 2018, but if I saw someone wearing either one of those in the parks I'd be struggling hard not to roll my eyes.

It's doubtful they make much profit on product like this given the relatively low quantity they produce for such a thing. People like having keepsakes for former attractions... Disney can either act on that insight or just do nothing. They choose the latter, I don't see it as an evil corporate move. If your consumer demands a product, why would you not give it to them?
 

Antaundra

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As someone who went through this in the 1990's and early 2000's with DCA 1.0, Save Disney (Fight to get Eisner to step down) and similar things, it is a pendulum, if you don't like what Disney is delivering now, then you need to speak up, and do it loudly.

Disney is scrambling now due to how poorly the latest Star Wars film is doing currently. They will make a profit, but not the size they wanted, and that will effect what will happen in the future.

I think the best thing about the pier redo is to for other firms and Theme Parks, in which they can do better, and will push them to do it.
Star Wars movies have been the highest grossing movies of the year for the last three years. Four of the top five highest grossing movies this year are Disney movies. I know there's been some backlash online against The Last Jedi but how much of a scramble can they be in? I can't imagine their movies could be more successful.
 

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