News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

DarkMetroid567

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Nice to see the hirees from Six Flags Creative for the first time. Hopefully the pier, and this ride, will embody the thematic discontinuities prevalent throughout that chain of parks. For example, a boardwalk rollercoaster that, instead of embracing it's own simple story, makes an inevitably poor attempt at telling a linear story that's unrelated to the structure of the ride itself. Never mind the confused architecture and theme.

I could go on, but this is so un-Disney and so Six-Flags-like, I'm fairly confident the land will speak for itself.

I'm so tired of everyone making these Six Flags comparisons. They mean nothing anymore, especially when it's leagues above what Six Flags does.
 

Professortango1

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I don't get why people are complaining for Disney adding a story to a ride that didn't have a story at all.

1. The land is a seaside pier. The ride begins at their house. Which isn't on a pier nor associated with it in anyway.
2. The ride is clearly a representation of a woodie coaster that would be found on a pier. That doesn't tie in with the plot of attraction.

It would be like taking the Disneyland Carousel and adding Buzz Lightyear music and images where we're chasing Zurg. You're still clearly riding a Carousel horse on a carousel, but the story ignores that and that conflict takes away from the unthemed and themed experiences.
 

vancee

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I don’t see the wooden coaster in it at all? I don’t think a wooden coaster (at least back then) would have a big loop?? I may be wrong, I do know that there are flips in wooden coasters today.
 

TROR

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Exactly, if you’re comparing Disney to Six Flags then you have no right to talk. DCA alone is better than Universal.
DCA is equal to Universal.

I don’t see the wooden coaster in it at all? I don’t think a wooden coaster (at least back then) would have a big loop?? I may be wrong, I do know that there are flips in wooden coasters today.

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D.Silentu

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To add my opinion on this reveal would be preaching to the choir. So, I'll say instead that it seems to me, when you are forming a ride around a team of superheroes, having an scenario centered around babysitting gone wrong seems to eschew far more exciting possibilities.
 

Travel Junkie

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It’s just hard to argue that story/theme aren’t continuously being downgraded at DCA. As weak as that theme was. This is a lateral move in terms of guest experience when you factor in the aesthetic upgrades. I just wish we could have both theme/ story and aesthetics at the same time- you know like they used to do all the time. Seems like it’s much easier to get cosmetic upgrades approved if there is an IP attached- whether it belongs or not.

The thing the irks me is that on one hand they go to great lengths to sell you on the immersion and the "story" of lands like Galaxy's Edge and Pandora. Then the same company does Pixar Pier, which is the antithesis of what they have been advertising.

They try and have it both ways, whenever it suits them.
 

Professortango1

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I don’t see the wooden coaster in it at all? I don’t think a wooden coaster (at least back then) would have a big loop?? I may be wrong, I do know that there are flips in wooden coasters today.

The ride is designed to look like a wooden roller coaster. They built it out of metal to keep it smoother and cheaper, as woodies get rough and require more maintenance.
 
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I don't get why people are complaining for Disney adding a story to a ride that didn't have a story at all.

Maybe because it's kind of unnecessary. Also this thing (like Mission Breakout last year) feels to some of us like another log too many on the IP bonfire. I don't say this to be negative or a downer, but the parks have gradually been transformed into another distribution and marketing channel for Disney brands.

The only saving grace is that WDI's track record for executing top level experiences over the past few years has been exceptional. Hopefully the Pier makeover will meet fan expectations.
 
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TROR

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I don't say this to be negative or a downer, but the parks have gradually been transformed into another distribution and marketing channel for Disney brands.
B-but Walt did that too! Forget the original attractions and imagination and pure creativity that existed in the 1950's and 60's, Walt named his castle after a movie that didn't even come out yet! It doesn't matter that the castle was beautiful and special!
 
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B-but Walt did that too! Forget the original attractions and imagination and pure creativity that existed in the 1950's and 60's, Walt named his castle after a movie that didn't even come out yet! It doesn't matter that the castle was beautiful and special!

Disagree. With every IP based attraction Walt built there was at least another that had zero synergistic relationship to the Studio. Take the Disneyland Railroad for example, a signature attraction that came to be purely out of Walt's love for trains.

If anything Walt Disney probably relied too heavily on external corporate sponsors. In retrospect I suppose we should be grateful that at least we aren't being force fed corporate sponsorships while waiting in line for Millennium Falcon ride or The Incredicoaster.
 

TROR

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Disagree. With every IP based attraction Walt built there was at least another that had zero synergistic relationship to the Studio. Take the Disneyland Railroad for example, a signature attraction that came to be purely out of Walt's love for trains.

If anything Walt Disney probably relied too heavily on external corporate sponsors. In retrospect I suppose we should be grateful that at least we aren't being force fed corporate sponsorships while waiting in line for Millennium Falcon ride or The Incredicoaster.
I know lol just poking at the "Walt did it too!" crowd before they show up. I definitely agree about corporate sponsors, but I understand why they were necessary at the time, and still even are.
 

lazyboy97o

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But.. it’s a roller coaster? Does that mean a ride with tracks (like a dark ride) can’t have a theme. Everyone complains about stuff being plain and boring but this only adding a story to a ride, making the new screamin interesting in my opinion. Screamin really never had a story, but now it does.
I don't get why people are complaining for Disney adding a story to a ride that didn't have a story at all.
You’re confusing linear narrative for story and quantity for quality. California Screamin’ had a story.
 
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I definitely agree about corporate sponsors, but I understand why they were necessary at the time, and still even are.

Are they really? Disney is poised to drop some serious money on what many are calling the largest entertainment merger in history, and it can't afford to 100% finance attractions at its theme parks? I call shenanigans.
 

No Name

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Reading comprehension seems to be lacking among some, which is no surprise, considering their accompanying opinions. :cool: Nowhere did anyone say that Disney parks are on the same level as Six Flags parks. But this coaster and surrounding area is very much like what Six Flags does. A ride that tacks on a narrative almost completely unrelated to its design, structure, movement, etc. Sea World and Universal have been guilty of this too, but this is the first time I believe Disney's stepped to such a low on a comparable scale.

There's a coaster opening in DHS next year. The very simple story is that it's a toy coaster that Andy built in his backyard. It's far from perfect. But if they tacked on a linear narrative about Russel saving Carl's neighbor's house from flying away, would that make it better?
 

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