Phroobar
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This would never happen at Magic Mountain. They still have the exact same rides from the Ford administration. (and probably last maintained then too)
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News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier
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Hatbox Ghostbuster
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Can confirm! I see MM every time I leave the office.
Antaundra
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The Incredibles coaster reminds me of Palm Springs. The coaster will now be the part of the Pier that is most reminiscent of California, but the least reminiscent of a Pier. When this project was first announced I thought/hoped they were going to finish the Victorian themeing and slap some Pixar names on the buildings. Instead they've created a garbage pail of unrelated IP and clashing architecture. Oh well, it will still be an aesthetic improvement, I just wish they could have created a cohesive land at the same time.
SSG
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And add the new permit into the mix:
Received BLD2017-05360 WALT DISNEY WORLD CO 1313 S HARBOR BLVD Tenant Improvement: Redesign queue to provide accessibilitty/flow. 2,094 sq.ft. to construct (5) new canopy structures over queue. Install (3) awnings onto existing show structure. Install new pendent/cable strung lighting inside of shade structures and rim lighting on the exterior with new dimmer cabinet. 4ft. by 103 ln.ft. retaining wall with synthetic wood fence (over 80 ln.ft. only). 27 ft high by 40 ln.ft. synthetic wood fence behind existing show structure. Relocate (3) lamposts.
mickEblu
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Hahah that’s not too much to ask. Here is my Peking Order when it comes to lands/ parks
1. Strong theme AND strong aesthetics
2. Strong(er) aesthetics but weak(er) theme
3. Strong(er) theme but weak(er) aesthetics
4. Weak theme AND weak aesthetics
I think the original Paradise Pier (1.0) probably falls into #3 (if we just tried not to notice the maliboomer) when comparing to other iterations of the land but #4 if looked at objectively.
With DCA 2.0, Paradise Pier got stronger aesthetically but weaker thematically so I would put it in #2.
Judging by the concept art, Pixar Pier is also in #2, However with weaker theming than DCA 2.0s Paradise Pier but stronger aesthetics. So I look at this as a lateral move when comparing land to land. When it comes to pure enjoyment/ appreciation factor I’d have to go with aesthetics over theme. For example, a superbly themed Sahara desert land wouldn’t do much for me. But a moderately themed Jungle that is aesthetically pleasing would.
As far as impact to the overall park, Pixar Pier was really the tipping point. We now have more IP centric lands that aren’t really based on California than those that are. So judging by the direction DCA is going Pixar Pier makes more sense than Paradise Pier.
CA THEMED LANDS
1. BVS
2. Grizzly Peak
3. Pacific wharf (eventhough it’s a food court)
NOT SURE
Hollywood Land - Hollywoodland is mostly a CA THEMED land in name with GOTG and Monsters sitting in the middle of it. For all we know Marvel land may swallow it up.
NON CALIFORNIA THEMED LANDS
1. Cars Land
2. Bugs Land
3. Pixar Pier
4. Marvel Land
Anyway I really do like all of the remaining non Ip Lands and hope the rest are safe. BVS is a great opening act and should be safe. Pacific Wharf is a popular food court and not worth spending money on a renovation. And Grizzly Peak should be safe because of the Grand Californian.
And really with Disney characters slapped all over the place, was Paradise Pier really themed to CA seaside boardwalk anyway?
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BrianLo
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We're never getting a true slow moving ride anytime soon. I love them, but the ride systems are a bit antiquated compared to the LPS utilization on MM/Pooh's Hunny hunt or new boat system for PoTC in Shanghai.
That said... Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway could have been 'the ride' you were looking for. It's reasonably long for modern day rides and reasonably high capacity for modern day rides. I understand the ease of putting it into Toontown... but DCA sure would have benefited from it.
mickEblu
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I agree. As far as I’m concerned the Mickey ride would have fit the bill for what I want for DCA. Do you know how long it’s supposed to be? 7 minutes + would be ideal.
The slow moving ride systems like POTC and HM are a little antiquated but they still work. But then again that’s mostly due to the design of the attractions and not necessarily the ride systems. Eventhough they Do all kind of work hand in hand. Another thing to your point is the nostalgia. Not taking anything from the original POTC or HM because they are both fantastic attractions but would they hold the same place in our heart if they opened today? With today’s expectations? Shanghai’s POTC is a good example of a modern day, family friendly dark ride that I think DCA needs. It doesn’t necessarily have to be slow moving but between 7-10 minutes would be great.
Professortango1
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1. California Desert and Car Culture/Rte 66
2. California Farm
3. California Pier
4. TBD as we have no basis for what they will be doing with the land
TROR
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1. Car culture but not as strong as it could be thematically
2. Used to be a California Farm but was removed for Cars Land
3. California pier?????
4. True but if MB is any indication it won't be any good
mickEblu
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Professortango1
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One of the greatest Disney parks is Tokyo Disney Seas. Does every land and attraction fully represent the sea? No. They represent the concept of the sea/exploration very loosely. Still, the park feels cohesive and is phenomenal.
I also don't understand what's hard to understand about a California pier. Santa Monica, Santa Cruz, Belmont Park, Balboa Fun Zone, and the famous Ocean Park Pier. These are pretty iconic and Paradise Pier clearly emulates these. You can argue about whether or not its executed well, but its still pretty obvious how it fits the "C" in DCA.
TROR
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Yeah which is why I don't take issue with Cars Land, but there's no denying that it could be tied in together better than it is. And without Bountiful Valley Farm, Bug's Land has no connective tissue to the farming aspect of California.
Paradise Pier, yes. Pixar Pier? Ehhhhhhhh.
Professortango1
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Well, California is home to two Universities with Entomology Majors plus its not like earthy creatures like bugs don't reflect in the natural spirit of California.
Paradise Pier and Pixar Pier are the same thing. A themed Seaside Amusement Park. Just different design styles on the same theme.
Californian Elitist
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mickEblu
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Hahah cmon, I can’t tell if you re joking. Entomology majors and Bugs live in California? So that’s why Bugs Land works at DCA?
mickEblu
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Professortango1
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Losing Bountiful Valley Farms did hurt the connection, but the farm atmosphere is still present with the look of the area, the vineards at the entrance and the dozen tractors right there. It' always worked for me. Especially as I know tons of Entemologists who went to college right up the street from me.
mickEblu
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Hey to each their own right? I think it’s a huge stretch.
TwilightZone
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4. the marvel movies have ties to hollywood. that's seriously all I came up with. not very californian