danlb_2000
Premium Member
I am shocked to hear that Fox News left key facts out of a story.
I am surprised there were any facts at all in a Fox News story.
I am shocked to hear that Fox News left key facts out of a story.
Really? OK then. If you are the 1% that thinks that (along with the crazy idea Diagon Alley isn't the best themed land in Orlando) I'll be part of the 1% that isn't exactly a fan of PTN.
Dreamlights is by far the best nighttime parade ever done IMO.
Maybe they should Borrow this Fill-in PARADE from tokyo.(Nightfall Glow)
There was this artwork that appeared not to long ago... One would assume its for TDLs Dreamlights, and yes it has some Dreamlights floats in it, but WDW is also no stranger to reusing TDL floats mixed in with new floats...
What did Fox had to say about it?I am shocked to hear that Fox News left key facts out of a story.
I am shocked to hear that Fox News left key facts out of a story.
Storage wouldn't be a strong reason for it not coming. A Morton building can be erected in two days.I just saw on Twitter that the PTN floats won't fit in WDW's parade storage. Not sure if this is true or not but if it is, it explains why it is t coming.
I just saw on Twitter that the PTN floats won't fit in WDW's parade storage. Not sure if this is true or not but if it is, it explains why it is t coming.
Curbs that could be removed easily.What I heard from someone else (again, rumors are rumors) is that the issue is that Mack can't make the turn around Town Square because WDW has curbs in the way when he turns while DL doesn't.
WDW original MESP ended up in DLP. I believe after that, it was supposed to be sent to HKDL but never made it.I'm also shocked at the fact tons of people seem to think this version of MSEP is actually "ours". They have no idea it's the Disneyland original which is really bizarre to me
I guess just by the law of averages they have to accidentally put facts in sometimes.I am surprised there were any facts at all in a Fox News story.![]()
What I heard from someone else (again, rumors are rumors) is that the issue is that Mack can't make the turn around Town Square because WDW has curbs in the way when he turns while DL doesn't.
Not now, thats why Spectro rotted. Now, move out MSEP it's a different storyI just saw on Twitter that the PTN floats won't fit in WDW's parade storage. Not sure if this is true or not but if it is, it explains why it is t coming.
Specifically where? DL has curbsWhat I heard from someone else (again, rumors are rumors) is that the issue is that Mack can't make the turn around Town Square because WDW has curbs in the way when he turns while DL doesn't.
First of all, the P&L has very little to do with this because the creation of a new parade is a capital expenditure and the depreciation on something this size is minimal for a business with the asset base the size of WDP&R. Maintenance and labor are the primary operating costs but I can't imagine those things are materially different between one parade and another.AND if it goes, it's because WDW has agreed to pay for the transfer/upkeep out of their OPEX budget - the company isn't going to mandate that TDA send it to the east coast for free. I get what @CaptainAmerica is trying to say, but considering I work in finance, it's not mindless paper shuffling as he claims. Budgets have to be met and while yes it all gets consolidated on a central balance sheet, each entity has to make their stated p/l goals and margins. I also was under the impression that Disney ditched the "One Disney" idea so now the parks more or less operate independently as long as they meet those stated goals from HQ.
I'm not sure who said it, but another poster pointed out that Cars doesn't quite fit in a castle park and I agree. I wonder if they'd replace the Cars section with something else and solve both problems.What I heard from someone else (again, rumors are rumors) is that the issue is that Mack can't make the turn around Town Square because WDW has curbs in the way when he turns while DL doesn't.
I'm not sure who said it, but another poster pointed out that Cars doesn't quite fit in a castle park and I agree. I wonder if they'd replace the Cars section with something else and solve both problems.
First of all, the P&L has very little to do with this because the creation of a new parade is a capital expenditure and the depreciation on something this size is minimal for a business with the asset base the size of WDP&R. Maintenance and labor are the primary operating costs but I can't imagine those things are materially different between one parade and another.
With regards to "One Disney," keep in mind that we saw cuts in several projects when NextGen went over budget. Similarly, Shanghai overruns have had impacts on other businesses. That's proof right there that Disney isn't as "separate" as the end of One Disney would imply. Neither capital budgets nor operating budgets are static. Targets move all the time as the business and long-term strategies evolve.
@GiveMeTheMusic says WDW wasn't involved in the original capex for Paint the Night, and I believe him since I have no knowledge to the contrary. Even if WDW had paid for it, the assets belong to Disneyland because they're physically located in Disneyland so they need to be recorded there for property tax purposes if nothing else. Note that I never claimed my theory actually happened, just that it was a possibility. The system would allow for what I described to take place, even if that's not what happened in this case.
I'm not sure who said it, but another poster pointed out that Cars doesn't quite fit in a castle park and I agree. I wonder if they'd replace the Cars section with something else and solve both problems.
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