News Pacific Wharf to be Reimagined into San Fransokyo

[Disney Analyst]

Anything would be better than the route they went.

Bring back Bountiful Valley Farms...

"Bountiful Valley Vineyards"

 

[Californian Elitist]

People seem to love it, though. Every time I walk through the land, people are ecstatic to interact with the characters and watch the Spider-Man show. On some level, WDI did something right.

It’s just totally not for me (and it doesn’t fit/belong in DCA, IMO).

Yes, of course. It’s not for me, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t people who do enjoy it. Good for them, I’m happy they enjoy it.

I wanted to like it, but things didn’t turn out that way. I expected much better and I still feel it could have been much better. Oh well.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Oh, my bad, my post was unclear. I was referring to WDI rebuilding a miniature Golden Gate Bridge.

I didn’t mind Pacific Wharf, and I don’t mind Sanfransokyo Square. Both are totally fine for what they’re trying to accomplish. IMO the SFS theming might even be a slight upgrade; it merges a bit of fantasy with the existing California realism.

But then again, it was never my relaxation spot. At DCA, that’s really only ever been Grizzly Peak for me (or Cars Land behind Flo’s).

I agree with this, I watched a walkthrough and it has this “DCA’s japantown” feeling that I kinda dig and I think I like it better than before. It’s pretty well themed and the meet and greet area is pretty greatly detailed imo. They brought Hiro's garage from the film basically.

It’s that darn bridge that’s kinda meh. At night it looks better, especially because the lights give it that golden gate silhouette. But in daylight the cables are far too thin. They need to thicken them, make them redder, then maybe add the same style barely visible cables as vertical lines down across whole bridge, but without the lights, as to not obstruct the view of the pier at night.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I know the movie's bridge is iconic, but somebody should have said, "Wait. In this scale, it will look ridiculous. Let's build a bridge with a different Japanese aesthetic and maybe even a different color. That way, it shows the theme without making the bridge look like a miniature golf course prop."

 

[TP2000]

They legit could just call it Buena Vista Street... Then Buena Vista Street would connect to all the lands.... ???

Don't worry, as a Canadian, you get a complete pass on this...

To be more California appropriate, DCA should call it El Camino Real.

That was the 1700's name of the main pathway/horseback route the Spanish gave to their 600+ mile long route that connected all of their missions from one end of the state to the other. Each mission was approximately one days horseback ride from one another, and the travelers would follow El Camino Real to get there.

El Camino Real still exists today on its similar path, but has often been turned into a highway or city street. California Department of Transportation denotes the presence of El Camino Real by placing bronze bells along the current roadways where El Camino Real once existed.

 

[Too Many Hats]

Remembered I'm in a Facebook group about Disney Parks map and this was posted there. Looks like it is real, after all. Hilarious. I low key love how quickly went from being one of the most promising parks to the most laughable. Such incompetence over at Imagineering.
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NO WAY. This is real?

I am actually speechless at this laziness.

 

[TP2000]

Apparently lines for the meet n greet were three hours long and people didn’t even know if they would see Baymax or Hiro. In other words, some people chose to spend 180 minutes standing in the sun to see a kid from Cal State Fullerton in a red T shirt?

You have to remember that in that 3 hour line, there's only about 250 people waiting. Each Baymax greet averages 1.5 people (mostly single and childless adults, remember), and each greet takes up 1 minute to accomplish:

15 Seconds Entry Hello with Fangirl noises/giggles
15 Seconds small chit-chat or brief interaction
20 Seconds camera prep and pose for Instagrammable Moment
10 Seconds farewell and walk away, reset for next guest

In a theme park complex like DLR that has upwards of 75,000 to 100,000 visitors per day, a line of 250 people is tiny. 250 people is six boat launches at Pirates of the Caribbean, or about five minutes worth of Little Mermaid's clamshells going by.

 

[TP2000]

“Performance Corridor” might bother me more than the whole San Fransokyo retheme because words are free and there is just no excuse for that laziness.

NO WAY. This is real?

I am actually speechless at this laziness.

Isn't it great? I think my favorite part is they went to the trouble of giving it the little grape symbol.

Because, you know, that's where grapes come from; Performance Corridors.

And at the heart of all this is... what exactly is being "performed" along this "corridor"??? Because it sure isn't a parade.

The executive leaders in WDI and TDA are people who apparently have no idea how their own customers interact with, and use, their theme parks.

It seems like every 60 to 90 days they release some piece of clueless proof of that sad reality. Declaring on park maps that the Golden Vine Winery complex is now Performance Corridor is just the latest example. There will be more examples a few months from now, and then another example, and another, etc., etc.

Until there is comprehensive change of who runs the Parks division, this sort of thing will continue. If not get worse.

 

[mickEblu]

You have to remember that in that 3 hour line, there's only about 250 people waiting. Each Baymax greet averages 1.5 people (mostly single and childless adults, remember), and each greet takes up 1 minute to accomplish:

15 Seconds Entry Hello with Fangirl noises/giggles
15 Seconds small chit-chat or brief interaction
20 Seconds camera prep and pose for Instagrammable Moment
10 Seconds farewell and walk away, reset for next guest

In a theme park complex like DLR that has upwards of 75,000 to 100,000 visitors per day, a line of 250 people is tiny. 250 people is six boat launches at Pirates of the Caribbean, or about five minutes worth of Little Mermaid's clamshells going by.

Right. And let’s not forget it was the first day. The lines will subside. My intention of the post was just to point out that I think it’s crazy that someone would wait in the sun for three hours to see a CM with big hair in a red shirt.

I’m trying to understand. Is it some sort of collector or completionist mindset? To snag a picture with every character possible in a Disney park? It’s probably more “ i need to be the first person to do this.”

 

[TP2000]

I’m trying to understand. Is it some sort of collector or completionist mindset? To snag a picture with every character possible in a Disney park? It’s probably more “ i need to be the first person to do this.”

It's an attempt for Likes and attention from friends and semi-strangers on their Social Media feeds.

"Look how cute I am with Baymax! San Fransokyo Square is AMAAAAZING!"

 

[Disney Irish]

I have a feeling "Performance Corridor" has been used for awhile now.

Here is a 2022 Food Festival event map which has the same reference, this time in front of Paradise Bay -

 

[CaptinEO]

Apparently lines for the meet n greet were three hours long and people didn’t even know if they would see Baymax or Hiro. In other words, some people chose to spend 180 minutes standing in the sun to see a kid from Cal State Fullerton in a red T shirt?

Judging from the success of Oogie Boogie Bash it seems plenty of "Disney Adults" will pay big money and wait in massive lines just for photo ops.

 

[mickEblu]

This is modern Disney. They have guys in Finance coming up with names for “new” lands and the DEI team leading attraction rethemes.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I’m pretty sure both sides say the same thing so why feed into it ?

Imagine strangers living rent-free that much in your head.

 

[PiratesMansion]

My cynical read is that by calling it "Performance Corridor", they're trying to communicate to guests that there's nothing of value there, so that they go to some other lands instead, where they are more likely to spend money.

It also begs the question-what was the last time the Performance Corridor was actually used for its alleged purpose? Paint the Night five years ago?

 

[TP2000]

My cynical read is that by calling it "Performance Corridor", they're trying to communicate to guests that there's nothing of value there, so that they go to some other lands instead, where they are more likely to spend money.

But the only thing on the map that is connected to Performance Corridor is the four different food & beverage offerings at Golden Vine Winery.

Y: Magic Key Terrace
Z: Mendocino Terrace
AA: Wine Country Trattoria
BB: Sonoma Terrace

Those are high profit alcohol sales and/or sit down dining locations, all of them. I admire your willingness to see some sort of logic in this bizarre and charmless nomenclature change, but they really do want you to visit those four dining locations and spend money.

It also begs the question-what was the last time the Performance Corridor was actually used for its alleged purpose? Paint the Night five years ago?

Exactly. And the answer is that the Performance Corridor (what a regular human would call a "parade route") in DCA was last used for a parade on the closing day of Paint The Night; November 7th, 2018.

So it has been five years since a parade was offered in DCA, and anything actually performed on that corridor.

There is no known parade announced or currently in development for DCA. The next opportunity to hear something, anything, about a DCA parade would be a week from tomorrow at Destination D23's parks presentation. I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[Disney Irish]

But the only thing on the map that is connected to Performance Corridor is the four different food & beverage offerings at Golden Vine Winery.

Y: Magic Key Terrace
Z: Mendocino Terrace
AA: Wine Country Trattoria
BB: Sonoma Terrace

Those are high profit alcohol sales and/or sit down dining locations, all of them. I admire your willingness to see some sort of logic in this bizarre and charmless nomenclature change, but they really do want you to visit those four dining locations and spend money.

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Exactly. And the answer is that the Performance Corridor (what a regular human would call a "parade route") in DCA was last used for a parade on the closing day of Paint The Night; November 7th, 2018.

So it has been five years since a parade was offered in DCA, and anything actually performed on that corridor.

There is no known parade announced or currently in development for DCA. The next opportunity to hear something, anything, about a DCA parade would be a week from tomorrow at Destination D23's parks presentation. I wouldn't hold your breath.

So PtNs return confirmed.....

 

[Disney Analyst]

But the only thing on the map that is connected to Performance Corridor is the four different food & beverage offerings at Golden Vine Winery.

Y: Magic Key Terrace
Z: Mendocino Terrace
AA: Wine Country Trattoria
BB: Sonoma Terrace

Those are high profit alcohol sales and/or sit down dining locations, all of them. I admire your willingness to see some sort of logic in this bizarre and charmless nomenclature change, but they really do want you to visit those four dining locations and spend money.

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Exactly. And the answer is that the Performance Corridor (what a regular human would call a "parade route") in DCA was last used for a parade on the closing day of Paint The Night; November 7th, 2018.

So it has been five years since a parade was offered in DCA, and anything actually performed on that corridor.

There is no known parade announced or currently in development for DCA. The next opportunity to hear something, anything, about a DCA parade would be a week from tomorrow at Destination D23's parks presentation. I wouldn't hold your breath.

Hey now, they do the "Frightfully Fun Parade" for specially ticketed event guests during Halloween season

 

[PiratesMansion]

But the only thing on the map that is connected to Performance Corridor is the four different food & beverage offerings at Golden Vine Winery.

Y: Magic Key Terrace
Z: Mendocino Terrace
AA: Wine Country Trattoria
BB: Sonoma Terrace

Those are high profit alcohol sales and/or sit down dining locations, all of them. I admire your willingness to see some sort of logic in this bizarre and charmless nomenclature change, but they really do want you to visit those four dining locations and spend money.

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Exactly. And the answer is that the Performance Corridor (what a regular human would call a "parade route") in DCA was last used for a parade on the closing day of Paint The Night; November 7th, 2018.

So it has been five years since a parade was offered in DCA, and anything actually performed on that corridor.

There is no known parade announced or currently in development for DCA. The next opportunity to hear something, anything, about a DCA parade would be a week from tomorrow at Destination D23's parks presentation. I wouldn't hold your breath.

But three of those four places aren't exactly places to linger IIRC. Hence, get your drink and begone to somewhere else to buy your fifth Lightning McQueen sipper!

 

[TP2000]

I have a feeling "Performance Corridor" has been used for awhile now.

Here is a 2022 Food Festival event map which has the same reference, this time in front of Paradise Bay -

The Performance Corridor name goes back to DCA's opening in 2001. It was a dumb and pretentious way to say "parade route".

On that map from Food & Wine, the Performance Corridor location (H) for Kids Crafts identifies it as the western end of the World of Color viewing area near the Golden Zephyr. I'm not sure if they still consider the entire DCA parade route (which is the longest in any Disney theme park) to be "Performance Corridor"? But according to their new map, Performance Corridor is now shaded in grey and only includes the four dining locations at the Golden Vine Winery complex.

That Golden Vine Winery complex is outlined in Grape Purple on this map, with the DCA Parade Route Performance Corridor traced in red as it goes through the park.