Over hyped Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Agreed it can be more, but they've got to get their 4 gates in order FIRST, in a big way, before even thinking about a 5th gate.

Here's the problem with that line of thought, We have the woefully overcrowded MK, The beautiful but underappreciated AK and the trainwrecks known respectively as DHS and EPCOT. But they need all the parks open because of the sheer number of visitors.

Had Disney gone all out on a Star Wars 5'th gate with 20 or so attractions with 5-6 being 'people eater' E-tickets and built it QUICKLY and i'm talking EPCOT timeframe here. It would have been a unprecedented success which would appeal to kids from 8 to 80.

It would have been a literal license to print money, Especially if it had been based in Space and Tatooine and maybe a touch of Coruscant, Bespin or even Yavin (would not need to do anything for landscaping just the Florida swamp would be sufficient) . Four/Five lands that you could have taken a hyperspace transport to from say Mos Eisley (beat the Hogwarts Express at its own game)

With a SW Gate like this to absorb crowds They could have taken their time re-imagining DHS and shut it down for a year or so so it could open fresh and new, Same for EPCOT

All, AK needs is to get RoL WORKING as planned because when it works it's beautiful according to those who have seen it, And revamp Kali River so it lives up to it's potential, Perhaps add going over a waterfall for the necessary 'soak' experience.

The problem is Iger has neglected the parks for so long, they need 'swing space' so the necessary work can be done to erase the maintenance debt that's built up over the years.

And if Star Wars Land had been built in the east, Disney could have built MARVEL Land out in Anaheim with a similar level of investment which would draw additional visitors AND give people an incentive to visit BOTH WDW and DL.
 

drizgirl

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Here's the problem with that line of thought, We have the woefully overcrowded MK, The beautiful but underappreciated AK and the trainwrecks known respectively as DHS and EPCOT. But they need all the parks open because of the sheer number of visitors.
You see an overcrowded park as a problem needing resolution. Disney sees it as an immense success.
 

Mr Ferret 75

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Premium Member
You guys think the Universal fans complained as much as you guys about how Potterland was only 1 new ride and a couple of re-purposed coasters?

The narrative that a busy Star Wars Land means it's a failure is one specifically designed by @ford91exploder so he can continue to troll here after the land is potentially a comparable success to Potterland.
How can it be ? It isn't being built !!
 

Chef Mickey

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You see an overcrowded park as a problem needing resolution. Disney sees it as an immense success.
I'm actually not sure they see it that way. I mean, they know their parks are successful, but they WANT you to have a good time and not feel like it's overcrowded so you'll come back and spend more.

If they could just snap their fingers and expand, they would. My argument is that they should have been doing more snapping and not worrying so much about capex, budgets, and logistics. Build and they will come.

I believe there is a lot of second guessing and regret for not being more aggressive in their expansion in the Iger era, whatever they looks like (Star Wars, more parks, more attractions at existing parks, etc). I really don't mind what kind of expansion they do, just that they DO it every single year.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Now lets see just how fast WDW SWL comes online fully open, I fully expect that Disney finance will drag it out to early 2021 If I'm wrong @Kman101 's favorite charity gets 100 bucks, And that's a bet I really DO want to lose.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I'm actually not sure they see it that way. I mean, they know their parks are successful, but they WANT you to have a good time and not feel like it's overcrowded so you'll come back and spend more.

If they could just snap their fingers and expand, they would. My argument is that they should have been doing more snapping and not worrying so much about capex, budgets, and logistics. Build and they will come.

I believe there is a lot of second guessing and regret for not being more aggressive in their expansion in the Iger era, whatever they looks like (Star Wars, more parks, more attractions at existing parks, etc). I really don't mind what kind of expansion they do, just that they DO it every single year.

I doubt there is much regret in the mahogany paneled walls of Burbank's executive row. From the beginnng they have only cared about the stock price and I doubt if that mindset has changed one iota.

Over at WDI and in the parks rank and file I can see where there would be a lot of regret for the nearly complete stall on expansion over the last decade and a quarter.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Sounds good to me. Get that check book ready!

As much as I despise the way WDW is being run of late, I really do hope I write that check because it will suck for many if the only SWL is at DL because TDO is dragging their feet so as to have SWL open on the 50'th
 

Damon7777

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Original Poster
To be fair though, isn't this((Potter's soon to be 4 E's))
because potter spans two parks?.

It does not matter for this discussion if Potter were to span 5 parks or 1:
Wizard World is still one large area on the Uni property divided into 2 sections without interruption via the Express train attraction.


The direct comparison of Wizarding World vs Galaxy Edge is fair and appropriate.
 

Damon7777

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Original Poster
I'm interested to see if disney does the two park method in the future, even though I don't really want it.

You sound as if there is a reasonable chance of that happening........that interest belongs on the Outer Rim Territories of mainstream thought.
 
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bsiev1977

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I'll treat it like Avatar - expect very little out of it. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and figure they'll screw it up somehow. I say this after seeing Harry Potter lands at Universal. I had such high expectations and when I saw it all in person? Meh. Not impressed ay all. So now I expect little. I don't actually think that we'll care much about it since no one else is much of a SW fan

So, what exactly were you expecting from the Potter lands at Universal?
 

mergatroid

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It's as though people feel angry that Pandora has been so popular since opening after multiple years of declaring how nobody would be interested in it, that they're starting criticising GE instead. It's all about opinions etc but you'd think they'd actually been there and tried it judging by the negativity :D
 

TwilightZone

Well-Known Member
You sound as if there is a reasonable chance of that happening.
Hey, you never know with disney. No one was expecting gotg to replace tot. It's possible they might tinker with the two park bridge thing that universal has going on. I can even see the potential parks they might connect together if they were to do it. Epcot and DHS for galaxy's edge. Because Epcot is going to have a space mini land.
 

SourcererMark79

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In the Parks
No
Hey, you never know with disney. No one was expecting gotg to replace tot. It's possible they might tinker with the two park bridge thing that universal has going on. I can even see the potential parks they might connect together if they were to do it. Epcot and DHS for galaxy's edge. Because Epcot is going to have a space mini land.
I think you're on the right (test) track with this
 

Damon7777

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Original Poster
What in the world would be the reason to have Star Wars in two unconnected parks?

Universal did the wizard like that due to real estate concerns and pre-established park positioning.
 
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Damon7777

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Original Poster
It's possible they might tinker with the two park bridge thing that universal has going on

Are you for real? But why do it? A bridge to span MILES?
And Universal did not use a bridge.... It was an actual attraction because of the proximity of their two park lineup
 

TwilightZone

Well-Known Member
Are you for real? But why do it?
What in the world would be the reason to have Star Wars in two unconnected parks?
1. Would get more money into disney's pockets.
2. Synergy, let's say galaxy's edge takes place in classic star wars trilogy + prequel spin offs, adding a ride or section in future world will allow for disney to synergize with the modern stuff.
A bridge to span MILES?
I wasn't being literal with my bridge. And it wouldn't be the first time dinsey had the same IP in 2 different parks. For example, toy story is at both hollywood studios and tomorrowland.
 

bhg469

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So, what exactly were you expecting from the Potter lands at Universal?
I wonder what could actually impress them!! Wizarding world is still easily the best theme park addition to any park in the country. Africa's additions maybe comes close. Pandora losese at the very obvious plastic animals and plants. Had very high hopes for it being mind blowing at night and wow was that not event close to the pictures.
 

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