Over hyped Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

[larryz]

I'll treat it like Avatar - expect very little out of it. I'm a huge Star Wars fan and figure they'll screw it up somehow. I say this after seeing Harry Potter lands at Universal. I had such high expectations and when I saw it all in person? Meh. Not impressed ay all. So now I expect little. I don't actually think that we'll care much about it since no one else is much of a SW fan

And, like Avatarland, I imagine it will be 5 years or more after it opens before I'll get to ride the attractions.

 

[21stamps]

Everything in the Star Wars universe has been destroyed, it takes place “a long time ago”. All this stuff is fiction, we walk into these worlds to experience that fiction, we don’t need some weird rationalization for why we’re there.

It kind of does matter if movies are still being released and updates/additions would happen.

Harry Potter didn’t have that same issue.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

@Make_EPCOT_Great_Again This is a bit off topic, but I was wondering if you consider the new SW movies non-canon, and if so, do you consider the Legends books canon? Or is it neither/nor? I was reading the Legends books faithfully until they got way too dark with The New Jedi Order, and then gave up and refused to think of anything from the NJO on as personal canon. I don't think the books in general fully capture the SW experience. Most of the authors failed to capture SW's sense of humor, which it has in addition to all the sci-fi action and adventure. The new movies do have a sense of humor, at least, though I miss some Legends characters like Jaina Solo. To me (in my personal canon), SW has two universes that branch off after Return of the Jedi--the early Legends books and the two new films. I ask out of sheer curiosity--not attempting to criticize you in the slightest.

I accept the new films as official canon because despite what I think of them they are canon. Before Disney bought the franchise, I only ever considered anything that Lucas had a hand in as canon and still personally only view projects that were made under Lucas’ control as “real” Star Wars. I’ve read many of the books and enjoyed quite a few but never considered them as authentic Star Wars. My favorite books were always the anthologies like Tales of the Bounty Hunters, Tales From Jabba’s Palace, etc.

Lucas is not perfect by any means but since he is the origination of the SW universe, I’ve always considered anything he wasn’t attached to as fan fiction. As a self proclaimed OT purist snob, the thing that always riled me more than anything is the Special Edition of the OT so Lucas is not infallible in my mind.

My SW fandom is mostly tied up in collecting the vintage Kenner toys from the 70’s and 80’s

 

[Damon7777]

Time evolves, so a does a franchise... the latter has to if it wants to survive.

It has to????
No, it most certainly does not necessarily have to---- you just added that in as if it sounds, well, sound.

 

[s8film40]

It kind of does matter if movies are still being released and updates/additions would happen.

Harry Potter didn’t have that same issue.

I’m not really sure how that factors in. WWoHP opened before the last of the movies came out. Not to mention the newer movie and stories. I don’t really follow Harry Potter but there’s still stuff being done with the franchise.

I get what you’re saying that if changes are made in the SW universe it could outdate the land. I really think you’re grasping at straws here to make excuses for a poor choice that Disney made. Other franchises are represented in parks while sequels, prequels, etc. come out.

 

[GVentola]

Lucas is not perfect by any means but since he is the origination of the SW universe, I’ve always considered anything he wasn’t attached to as fan fiction. As a self proclaimed OT purist snob, the thing that always riled me more than anything is the Special Edition of the OT so Lucas is not infallible in my mind.

I was okay with the special edition of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, but I sorely missed the songs "Lapti Nek" and "Ewok Celebration" from Return of the Jedi.

I remember back in 1983 (or was it 1984?) reading people's reactions to ROTJ in the letter column in Starlog magazine. One angry viewer said ROTJ reminded him of a "Disney" film. Wonder what he thinks now that Star Wars films are Disney films!

 

[mergatroid]

For those thinking that Disney have single handedly ruined Star Wars, you obviously never saw the original Chewbacca tv series

 

[FutureCEO]

New Fantasyland

 

[21stamps]

It has to????
No, it most certainly does not necessarily have to---- you just added that in as if it sounds, well, sound.

I don’t understand what you’re saying. How would you have liked to see Star Wars progress?

I’m not really sure how that factors in. WWoHP opened before the last of the movies came out. Not to mention the newer movie and stories. I don’t really follow Harry Potter but there’s still stuff being done with the franchise.

I get what you’re saying that if changes are made in the SW universe it could outdate the land. I really think you’re grasping at straws here to make excuses for a poor choice that Disney made. Other franchises are represented in parks while sequels, prequels, etc. come out.

The Harry Potter movies were released with the same core group of characters aging naturally. They had a book series to to guide the movies.

Star Wars is not a book series being made into movies, and the time from the last of the originals trilogy to the start of the next installment in the timeline, was a gap of 35 years or something.

SW doesn’t have the luxury of that same type of story line progression.

 

[s8film40]

I don’t understand what you’re saying. How would you have liked to see Star Wars progress?



The Harry Potter movies were released with the same core group of characters aging naturally. They had a book series to to guide the movies.

Star Wars is not a book series being made into movies, and the time from the last of the originals trilogy to the start of the next installment in the timeline, was a gap of 35 years or something.

SW doesn’t have the luxury of that same type of story line progression.

Like I said I don’t see how that’s relevant.

How do you justify them building Pandora with 3-4 movies still on the way?

You’re making a big deal out of nothing. IP is used all the time with movies and new stories still unreleased. Sure things may change, but it’s still that moment in time you’re visiting in the park.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

For those thinking that Disney have single handedly ruined Star Wars, you obviously never saw the original Chewbacca tv series

The video you posted is not a Chewbacca tv series. It’s from the 1978 Star Wars Christmas Special but yes it’s terrible.

 

[Damon7777]

Stamps,
You declared that a franchise has to evolve to survive.
And I challenge that one size fits all notion........better to look at a case by case basis to see if change in needed

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

I was okay with the special edition of A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, but I sorely missed the songs "Lapti Nek" and "Ewok Celebration" from Return of the Jedi.

I remember back in 1983 (or was it 1984?) reading people's reactions to ROTJ in the letter column in Starlog magazine. One angry viewer said ROTJ reminded him of a "Disney" film. Wonder what he thinks now that Star Wars films are Disney films!

My biggest issues overall are with the changes to A New Hope. The Special Editions butchered that film. Lapti Nek being replaced with Jedi Rocks was atrocious and so was removing Sebastian Shaw and inserting Hayden Christensen at the end.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Both franchises, SW and Potter, have new backstory movies coming out this year. Both are on the heels of a disappointing last offering (Fantastic Beasts and Last Jedi). And both have new attractions coming in '19.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Lapti Nek being replaced with Jedi Rocks was atrocious

This fixes it...

 

[Maerj]

The land is not Tatooine so it’s not the Cantina in Mos Eisley. Everything I’ve read about the big dark ride includes the First Order which makes it themed after Disney Star Wars and not Lucas Star Wars. Sure the Falcon is there but I’m not anticipating the ride to be purely based on the OT. I’m a bigger Star Wars fan than a Disney fan. I don’t like what Disney has done/is doing with the franchise so far therefore I was going to disappointed with the land no matter I guess. I’m a snob when it comes to Star Wars and have always believed that if Lucas is not involved then it’s just glorified fan fiction. I didn’t like Ep VII or VIII and care little for the new characters. Why make up a new planet when Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, Cloud City, Dagobah, etc already exist?

Its based off of a new planet so hardcore fans can't say "This isn't enough like Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, Cloud City, or Dagobah." An all-new world, in the same galaxy, was the idea so they could have a fresh start while making it feel like you're in the SW Universe.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I believe the delay in WDW expansion was due to the more desperate need of several other parks getting priority in the non-unlimited budget (DCA 1.0, WDSP, HKDL) and the determination that Disney needed to make a “second try” at debuting in China ASAP (thus SDL). Major WDW expansion was in the plans from practically when Iger took office. (Obviously one could argue that the park expansions should have been scheduled differently so that WDW received hints earlier, but there were very reasonable arguments for putting everything into those other expansions first).

In addition to Potter being evidence that this strategy works, people coming to see SWL will also find another brand-new e-ticket and another land that’s less than a year old in the same park, so these things should further mitigate concerns about SWGE not matching perceptions.

The delay in WDW was simply to erode the lead Eisner gave him there and to massively increase price while lower expectations.

Mission:accomplished

 

[Maerj]

I really hope this is true! Not even joking, the less people, the better. I hope that doesn’t sound rude.. just being honest.

There are many people of similar age as I am who are so excited to visit this land with their children. We were excited to share the new Disney SW movies with our children, because it is something from our childhood, Now shared with the next gen.

My opinion- This land will only be a disappointment to the typical Negative Nancy’s who claim disappointment at anything new. For everyone else- It will be fantastic.

And that's part of the problem with some of these fans. The franchise is something that is growing, changing and that the baton is being handed over to the next generation. My 10 year old daughter LOVED The Last Jedi, more than any other Star Wars movie before it. It was made more for her generation than ours. That was sort of one of the themes of the film and there are some people who just can't accept that. Lucas himself even said that the target audience was 12 year olds and it is... AND 12 years olds at heart.

 

[Maerj]

Disagree. Potter is insanely popular for the under 25 crowds.

Star Wars is not as popular for the younger now crowd. Just the older generation is really hard core but evene they don't go around cospaaying and carrying wands.

Star Wars fans don't cosplay? Really? The 501st? The Rebel Legion? The Mandalorin Mercs?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Sta...mulc7aAhVwRN8KHYaoAboQsAQIJw&biw=1366&bih=636

And sorry but in the Google image search there for Star Wars Cosplay, there are a number of kids, who are under 25.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

The delay at WDW is that there is only one team to program and fine tune the ride systems. Disney had to choose one to be first. They chose Disneyland because of the proximity of A List celebs for the Grand Opening media event.