Over hyped Star Wars Galaxy's Edge

[George]

The expectations around this addition are out of this world.
~~~Oh I'm afraid the chatter, WDW preparations/project scope, trip plannings will not be commensurate with expectation when the guests arrive~~~

Disney is offering a "land", not a park, not even half of a park--- one single land. And on this land will be 2 "rides" and a lesser diversion; this is about the same quantity of attraction lineup as a Pandora and Carsland
So what am I saying?
1) the attention to details on this land and fleshed out show sets will likely be Disney's best work yet, by far, too.
2) the two "rides" will be top shelf grade--bonafide super headliners
3) But the hype and expectations will overshadow the product. The scope and scale of the project should have been double, dare I say triple even, to meet demand.

So, let's leave aside whether or not Disney should build original immersive theme park environments like they used to. Avatar was argued against as an IP for essentially not be popular or good enough. SW now has detractors (I'm sure more than one has this thought process) for being too popular or good. What exactly is the exact level of quality a movie franchise should have to be a successful theme park land many may ask? Based on my calculations (I never make math mistakes so you can take this answer to the bank), the answer is....Turner and Hooch.

 

[Rumrunner]

The expectations around this addition are out of this world.
~~~Oh I'm afraid the chatter, WDW preparations/project scope, trip plannings will not be commensurate with expectation when the guests arrive~~~

Disney is offering a "land", not a park, not even half of a park--- one single land. And on this land will be 2 "rides" and a lesser diversion; this is about the same quantity of attraction lineup as a Pandora and Carsland
So what am I saying?
1) the attention to details on this land and fleshed out show sets will likely be Disney's best work yet, by far, too.
2) the two "rides" will be top shelf grade--bonafide super headliners
3) But the hype and expectations will overshadow the product. The scope and scale of the project should have been double, dare I say triple even, to meet demand.

Just as Avatar didn't excite me-Star Wars will be over-hyped and will disappoint many. Star Wars of today is not the same and the real magic is fading.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Disney always has overhyped new things because they want the buzz and anticipation going early and fast. The hype brings in numbers and drives up the anticipation and desire to experience it in mass. For such a huge SW fan base and all that SW brand encompasses...I was also disappointed to learn the "land" was all we were getting, but its better than nothing. Any expansion helps the park. Time will tell how much it does with the smaller scaled area and how its accepted.

There is no such thing as “overhyping” something if you’re the company selling it.

If that were the, every single fast food commercial is a ridiculous exercise in overhyping the worst quality food you can buy.

It’s business. And it works. Sell, sell, sell.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

There is no such thing as “overhyping” something if you’re the company selling it.

Footnote: See.......The NFL.......who made a schedule release into a "spectacular".........for games that won't be played for 4 months.

 

[Mickey5150]

The land is not Tatooine so it’s not the Cantina in Mos Eisley. Everything I’ve read about the big dark ride includes the First Order which makes it themed after Disney Star Wars and not Lucas Star Wars. Sure the Falcon is there but I’m not anticipating the ride to be purely based on the OT. I’m a bigger Star Wars fan than a Disney fan. I don’t like what Disney has done/is doing with the franchise so far therefore I was going to disappointed with the land no matter I guess. I’m a snob when it comes to Star Wars and have always believed that if Lucas is not involved then it’s just glorified fan fiction. I didn’t like Ep VII or VIII and care little for the new characters. Why make up a new planet when Tatooine, Hoth, Endor, Cloud City, Dagobah, etc already exist?

Actually the reason to create a new planet is because the park guest becomes part of the story. The way we interact with the rides and the people living/working in the land will change the experience. A true Star Wars fan would be excited to finally get to live part of the story.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

Actually the reason to create a new planet is because the park guest becomes part of the story. The way we interact with the rides and the people living/working in the land will change the experience. A true Star Wars fan would be excited to finally get to live part of the story.

Wow ...hold on while I go throw away the collection of vintage Star Wars toys I’ve spent 25 years acquiring since I must not be a “true” fan. Myself and many other “true” fans are not interested in becoming part of the story (especially a story involving Disney’s version of SW) but would much rather visit the locations and experience the moments that are special to us and not something that wasn’t created by the original creator (Lucas) of the SW universe. Disney Star Wars is not “true” Star Wars.

 

[mergatroid]

Just as Avatar didn't excite me-Star Wars will be over-hyped and will disappoint many. Star Wars of today is not the same and the real magic is fading.

How do you know this?

 

[mergatroid]

Actually the reason to create a new planet is because the park guest becomes part of the story. The way we interact with the rides and the people living/working in the land will change the experience. A true Star Wars fan would be excited to finally get to live part of the story.

It's all subjective so I'm sure there's true Star Wars fans such as the op who may not like the new version.

Wow ...hold on while I go throw away the collection of vintage Star Wars toys I’ve spent 25 years acquiring since I must not be a “true” fan. Myself and many other “true” fans are not interested in becoming part of the story (especially a story involving Disney’s version of SW) but would much rather visit the locations and experience the moments that are special to us and not something that wasn’t created by the original creator (Lucas) of the SW universe. Disney Star Wars is not “true” Star Wars.

Again it's subjective and so to some it may be.

 

[s8film40]

Wow ...hold on while I go throw away the collection of vintage Star Wars toys I’ve spent 25 years acquiring since I must not be a “true” fan. Myself and many other “true” fans are not interested in becoming part of the story (especially a story involving Disney’s version of SW) but would much rather visit the locations and experience the moments that are special to us and not something that wasn’t created by the original creator (Lucas) of the SW universe. Disney Star Wars is not “true” Star Wars.

Just be glad your not a Star Trek fan, that franchise has really been trashed. At least the Disneyfied Star Wars has some resemblance to the classic Star Wars, rather than some warped alternate reality version.

 

[21stamps]

Wow ...hold on while I go throw away the collection of vintage Star Wars toys I’ve spent 25 years acquiring since I must not be a “true” fan. Myself and many other “true” fans are not interested in becoming part of the story (especially a story involving Disney’s version of SW) but would much rather visit the locations and experience the moments that are special to us and not something that wasn’t created by the original creator (Lucas) of the SW universe. Disney Star Wars is not “true” Star Wars.

I really hope this is true! Not even joking, the less people, the better. I hope that doesn’t sound rude.. just being honest.

There are many people of similar age as I am who are so excited to visit this land with their children. We were excited to share the new Disney SW movies with our children, because it is something from our childhood, Now shared with the next gen.

My opinion- This land will only be a disappointment to the typical Negative Nancy’s who claim disappointment at anything new. For everyone else- It will be fantastic.

 

[s8film40]

Harry Potter isn't just an analogy, but a reason for part of the hype. Many of us who aren't even necessarily HP fans watched as Universal created this world of Harry Potter and guests were able to visit this world they had previously only seen in the movies. We've all waited for Disney's "answer" to this type of immersive recreation and Pandora has come and gone and doesn't seem to be it. Star Wars is now coming and seems to possibly be that thing that's on the same level as HP, however I think they're going to fall way short. The HP analogies are going to be there and rightfully so. I'm not really a fan of SW or HP, but I would say SW is a bigger deal. It's more ingrained in peoples memories simply because it's been around longer. That being said what makes WWoHP so great for it's fans is they can step right in to the movie and places they love. The idea of making some random place that was never shown in the movies is a colossal mistake on Disney's part. Sure the land will be popular, but let's face it everyone really wants to step into that world of Star Wars they already know and love. The fact that many first saw this world in the 70's and grew up thinking about it only would've made this more impactful. I think there's going to be a huge sense of disappointment when this opens. It will have some things, the Millennium Falcon a few characters and likely some other stuff guests will recognize. There's no attention to detail in meticulously recreating the world of Star Wars and this "new" planet just gave the imagineers an easy out to do whatever they wanted without having to really get it right. Imagine if Universal had chosen some unseen location in the HP world to base their attractions on. Again I'm not really a SW fan, but I really feel for them. To have come so close to getting something really great and it basically be so close yet so far from what most fans would really want is a real shame.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

Just be glad your not a Star Trek fan, that franchise has really been trashed. At least the Disneyfied Star Wars has some resemblance to the classic Star Wars, rather than some warped alternate reality version.

True

My opinion- This land will only be a disappointment to the typical Negative Nancy’s who claim disappointment at anything new. For everyone else- It will be fantastic.

The fact that something is new doesn’t make it better or even equal in quality as something that came before it. So what if the disappointment comes not from the fact that something’s new but from the point of view that it doesn’t stack up to what came before it? In my opinion, there’s nothing Disney can ever do that matches or surpasses what Lucas and his collaborators accomplished with the Original Trilogy. It’s great people are excited about this land but I’m just not one of them. Believe me it breaks my heart that a Star Wars Land is being built and it has no appeal to me. The thing I love most is being turned into a land in one of the places I love most and it’s far from what I was hoping for. I’ve spent much time daydreaming about a SW theme park and this isn’t it. It’s deeper than just hating anything new and being a Negative Nancy (I know that sounds dramatic but the OT meant a lot to me growing up). Disney Star Wars is not meant for me and it sucks but I will take my son and hope he enjoys it.

 

[MrConbon]

Wow ...hold on while I go throw away the collection of vintage Star Wars toys I’ve spent 25 years acquiring since I must not be a “true” fan. Myself and many other “true” fans are not interested in becoming part of the story (especially a story involving Disney’s version of SW) but would much rather visit the locations and experience the moments that are special to us and not something that wasn’t created by the original creator (Lucas) of the SW universe. Disney Star Wars is not “true” Star Wars.

It makes more sense for it to be an original planet. If you have a planet based on Tatooine you get
1) Just a boring sand planet which would be not very interesting to walk around.
2) More disappointment from die hard fans going “THIS ISN’T WHAT THE CATINA LOOKED LIKE!! THIS IS WAY BIGGER”. By having something new Disney is able to do whatever they want and not have fans breathing down their necks for the creative decisions.
3) A lack of anything interesting. Seriously Tattoine is not an exciting place. Neither is Hoth, Degobagh or Endor. All are essentially a desert, ice, swamp and forest planet.
4) Disney and Lucas are both Star Wars so I fail to see your point in you not liking Disney Star Wars. They all are canon and there’s no reason why Disney would build a land focusing on old movies when they are currently making bank off of the new films.

 

[21stamps]

Harry Potter isn't just an analogy, but a reason for part of the hype. Many of us who aren't even necessarily HP fans watched as Universal created this world of Harry Potter and guests were able to visit this world they had previously only seen in the movies. We've all waited for Disney's "answer" to this type of immersive recreation and Pandora has come and gone and doesn't seem to be it. Star Wars is now coming and seems to possibly be that thing that's on the same level as HP, however I think they're going to fall way short. The HP analogies are going to be there and rightfully so. I'm not really a fan of SW or HP, but I would say SW is a bigger deal. It's more ingrained in peoples memories simply because it's been around longer. That being said what makes WWoHP so great for it's fans is they can step right in to the movie and places they love. The idea of making some random place that was never shown in the movies is a colossal mistake on Disney's part. Sure the land will be popular, but let's face it everyone really wants to step into that world of Star Wars they already know and love. The fact that many first saw this world in the 70's and grew up thinking about it only would've made this more impactful. I think there's going to be a huge sense of disappointment when this opens. It will have some things, the Millennium Falcon a few characters and likely some other stuff guests will recognize. There's no attention to detail in meticulously recreating the world of Star Wars and this "new" planet just gave the imagineers an easy out to do whatever they wanted without having to really get it right. Imagine if Universal had chosen some unseen location in the HP world to base their attractions on. Again I'm not really a SW fan, but I really feel for them. To have come so close to getting something really great and it basically be so close yet so far from what most fans would really want is a real shame.

The thing is though, the Harry Potter saga all takes place in the same areas, for the most part.
Compared to Star Wars- where most of the planets or ships have been destroyed.

 

[21stamps]

True




The fact that something is new doesn’t make it better or even equal in quality as something that came before it. So what if the disappointment comes not from the fact that something’s new but from the point of view that it doesn’t stack up to what came before it? In my opinion, there’s nothing Disney can ever do that matches or surpasses what Lucas and his collaborators accomplished with the Original Trilogy. It’s great people are excited about this land but I’m just not one of them. Believe me it breaks my heart that a Star Wars Land is being built and it has no appeal to me. The thing I love most is being turned into a land in one of the places I love most and it’s far from what I was hoping for. I’ve spent much time daydreaming about a SW theme park and this isn’t it. It’s deeper than just hating anything new and being a Negative Nancy (I know that sounds dramatic but the OT meant a lot to me growing up). Disney Star Wars is not meant for me and it sucks but I will take my son and hope he enjoys it.

I think people just have a hard time accepting that there is a new generation who are now Star Wars fans, mostly because of the new movies and merchandise.

Time evolves, so a does a franchise... the latter has to if it wants to survive.

 

[s8film40]

The thing is though, the Harry Potter saga all takes place in the same areas, for the most part.
Compared to Star Wars- where most of the planets or ships have been destroyed.

Everything in the Star Wars universe has been destroyed, it takes place “a long time ago”. All this stuff is fiction, we walk into these worlds to experience that fiction, we don’t need some weird rationalization for why we’re there.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

It makes more sense for it to be an original planet. If you have a planet based on Tatooine you get
1) Just a boring sand planet which would be not very interesting to walk around.
2) More disappointment from die hard fans going “THIS ISN’T WHAT THE CATINA LOOKED LIKE!! THIS IS WAY BIGGER”. By having something new Disney is able to do whatever they want and not have fans breathing down their necks for the creative decisions.
3) A lack of anything interesting. Seriously Tattoine is not an exciting place. Neither is Hoth, Degobagh or Endor. All are essentially a desert, ice, swamp and forest planet.
4) Disney and Lucas are both Star Wars so I fail to see your point in you not liking Disney Star Wars. They all are canon and there’s no reason why Disney would build a land focusing on old movies when they are currently making bank off of the new films.

1) Mos Eisley, Mos Espa, and Jabba’s Palace are all on Tatooine and I would be interested in visiting all of them. Obi Wan described Mos Eisley as “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy” ....sounds pretty exciting.
2) Diehard fans want to see the locations that they have a special connection to from the movies they watched growing up and the toys they played with. The new planet design is a cop out because they have a built in excuse now when some fans second guess the land.
3) See #1 and I’ll also make a list of other interesting places from the OT that could’ve been incorporated into the area if you like
4) Disney owns Star Wars now and can make anything they want into canon but what they can’t do is capture what Lucas and others did with the Original Trilogy. When taking into account adjusted inflation, only 1 Disney SW movie (TFA) makes the list of top 20 highest domestic grossing box office all time. Yet all 3 of the OT films make the list if we’re talking about making bank. Also the 1 Disney SW film (TFA) that makes the list is a copy and paste job of the Original Trilogy so it seems even Abrams and Disney knew they couldn’t do it better.

 

[MrConbon]

1) Mos Eisley, Mos Espa, and Jabba’s Palace are all on Tatooine and I would be interested in visiting all of them. Obi Wan described Mos Eisley as “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy” ....sounds pretty exciting.
2) Diehard fans want to see the locations that they have a special connection to from the movies they watched growing up and the toys they played with. The new planet design is a cop out because they have a built in excuse now when some fans second guess the land.
3) See #1 and I’ll also make a list of other interesting places from the OT that could’ve been incorporated into the area if you like
4) Disney owns Star Wars now and can make anything they want into canon but what they can’t do is capture what Lucas and others did with the Original Trilogy. When taking into account adjusted inflation, only 1 Disney SW movie (TFA) makes the list of top 20 highest domestic grossing box office all time. Yet all 3 of the OT films make the list if we’re talking about making bank. Also the 1 Disney SW film (TFA) that makes the list is a copy and paste job of the Original Trilogy so it seems even Abrams and Disney knew they couldn’t do it better.

Well now you’re speaking to all Star Wars fans. I would much rather have an original planet that allows us to discover it for ourselves rather than a recreation of something we have already seen. I’m a diehard fan and I’m much more excited over something that is new and expands the story of Star Wars.

Jabba’s Palace is not close by the Cantina though so if Disney wants to make an accurate representation they can’t gave the Cantina and Jabba’s Palace in the same place. Tattooine is boring. The average park guest doesn’t want to walk around a barren sand planet. What would the rides even be? You would be locked to have all the rides be on the sand planet. A new location which has similar vibes to Tattooine but different allows for Disney to have complete creative control.

What are you even talking about when saying that Disney knows they can’t make Star Wars better. They played TFA safe because the last Star Wars movies were too different and fans complained. TLJ took the series in a new direction. Don’t act like Lucas is the magic Star Wars needs. The prequel films are mocked and pretty trash.

 

[Make_EPCOT_Great_Again]

Well now you’re speaking to all Star Wars fans. I would much rather have an original planet that allows us to discover it for ourselves rather than a recreation of something we have already seen. I’m a diehard fan and I’m much more excited over something that is new and expands the story of Star Wars.

Jabba’s Palace is not close by the Cantina though so if Disney wants to make an accurate representation they can’t gave the Cantina and Jabba’s Palace in the same place. Tattooine is boring. The average park guest doesn’t want to walk around a barren sand planet. What would the rides even be? You would be locked to have all the rides be on the sand planet. A new location which has similar vibes to Tattooine but different allows for Disney to have complete creative control.

What are you even talking about when saying that Disney knows they can’t make Star Wars better. They played TFA safe because the last Star Wars movies were too different and fans complained. TLJ took the series in a new direction. Don’t act like Lucas is the magic Star Wars needs. The prequel films are mocked and pretty trash.

I get why Disney is doing what they’re doing and I understand that Tatooine might be boring to the average park visitor but originally I was posting about my disappointment with the land not being OT based. Star Wars deserves a full park not just one land in order to incorporate the entire feel of the franchise. Some diehard fans (I’m including myself here) would absolutely nitpick the hell out of recreations of OT locations in any SW land but I personally would rather “visit” a not 100%, down to the smallest detail version of the Cantina than some place that means nothing to me.

I would argue that the PT are better movies than TFA and TLJ. The PT are by no means masterpieces but the story buried in there is much better than the new films. TFA is so derivative of the OT that it’s laughable and TLJ is a travesty from beginning to end. If you want to debate the quality of the Sequel Trilogy we can on PM. Don’t act like Lucas is not what Star Wars needs. He did actually come up with the universe that Disney decided to pay billions for after all.

 

[GVentola]

@Make_EPCOT_Great_Again This is a bit off topic, but I was wondering if you consider the new SW movies non-canon, and if so, do you consider the Legends books canon? Or is it neither/nor? I was reading the Legends books faithfully until they got way too dark with The New Jedi Order, and then gave up and refused to think of anything from the NJO on as personal canon. I don't think the books in general fully capture the SW experience. Most of the authors failed to capture SW's sense of humor, which it has in addition to all the sci-fi action and adventure. The new movies do have a sense of humor, at least, though I miss some Legends characters like Jaina Solo. To me (in my personal canon), SW has two universes that branch off after Return of the Jedi--the early Legends books and the two new films. I ask out of sheer curiosity--not attempting to criticize you in the slightest.