Out of control WDW ticket prices

[Tonka's Skipper]

Maybe you and the group don't realize it......I am just talking from what I see. friendly threads seem to have a lot more different names, these *tenor* threads may have posts, but it is mostly the same group..

Well its only my opinion..........AKK

 

[Disneyhead'71]

And here is what I dug up. Here are the UK Universal ticket prices straight from Universal's UK web site. A 14 day Universal ticket works out to $206.85.

The same WDW Pass costs $471.13

 

[flynnibus]

And here is what I dug up. Here are the UK Universal ticket prices straight from Universal's UK web site. A 14 day Universal ticket works out to $206.85.

Small correction.. you did the currency conversation wrong.. (inverted it). Pounds are worth more than dollars.. so the USD value will be higher than the UK number.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Small correction.. you did the currency conversation wrong.. (inverted it). Pounds are worth more than dollars.. so the USD value will be higher than the UK number.

No, £126 works out to $206.85 US Dollars. £285 works out to $471.13 US Dollars.

But to be TOTALLY fair, I should have used the £135 pound ticket since that includes the water park option that the WDW ticket does. So in that case the 14 day+water park Universal pass works out to $221.57.

 

[flynnibus]

No, £126 works out to $206.85 US Dollars. £285 works out to $471.13 US Dollars.

oops! I was looking at the flex... not the price in the header there. sorry

 

[wm49rs]

Maybe you and the group don't realize it......I am just talking from what I see. friendly threads seem to have a lot more different names, these *tenor* threads may have posts, but it is mostly the same group..

Well its only my opinion..........AKK

What group? There's no mass of individuals here seeking to suppress discussion or conversation. There's those who post and debate more regularly than others, but that's it. Again, if someone is unhappy with the tenor of discussion here, they have options....

 

[Disneyhead'71]

oops! I was looking at the flex... not the price in the header there. sorry

Using the Flex Ticket may even be more comparable since it include 3 theme park (USF, IOA, SW) and 2 water parks (WnW, Aquatica).

 

[thomas998]

thought they were ok., my grand kids loved the shiny!...........So did I, especially at the price! and being on property. We do usually stay at OKW

Unfortunately when we were there, we were joined by the pop warner folks so the place was so noise that you couldn't sleep till they finally put the little terrors to rest late at night.

 

[jlsHouston]

But a Hyatt Place isn't luxury brand at all. It's actually a step down in the Hyatt ladder and intended to be a more contemporary upscale offering competing on the level of brands like Holiday Inn Select.

Even ignoring price - what Disney offers and brands itself is nothing like a luxury product. Sure, if you are used to the classic economy brands Disney is a step up. But it's not even on the level of 'upscale' properties, let alone luxury. Luxury chains are like like Ritz-Carlton, Four Seasons, etc.. with the smaller ones actually usually going much further. Heck, aim down and say at a W property or the like.. but Disney's offerings are corn-fed middle america compared to actual luxury products.

I agree..I have stayed at the Ritz in Chicago which is Four Seasons. I have stayed at the Boulders in Scottsdale which is classified as a small luxury resort of the world...Mandarin Oriental in SF...
Disney's Deluxe maybe is 4 star at the GF...I dunno because I haven't stayed there but the POLY, BC, BW, AKL and WL are pretty low on a 4 star category and definitely not in the league of the ones I just listed above. I think of a 4 star like maybe the WYNNE or Bellagio in Vegas, Lowes in NOLA...The deluxes I have stayed at WDW are kind of like maybe Paris in Vegas...only without the cigarette smell. Moody Gardens in Galveston is similar to staying deluxe at WDW...a bit overpriced but great location, great spa, nice pool, adjacent to Schlitterbahn...I don't consider Moody's a 4 star resort maybe a high 3 star. I've paid $ 250/per nite to stay there for location..

And also people like me love Disney's resorts for more reason than the room quality...because overall even for the pricing which I think is not too bad for the location if you have a discount, staying in the bubble is a great vacation. I can sleep in or get up early and eat a big breakfast or grab a muffin or eat something in the room and work or go to the park or hit the pool or go shop in beautiful surroundings. The rides and attractions are well loved (and well worn but that's another topic) and entertaining and accessible by bus, boat monorail or car....or you can even walk depending on the resort you are at. And for the most part the CM's work really hard to make sure you as a guest are happy and having a great time.
I have read some of threads about staying off site and I realize there are some really good deals or real luxury places to stay in Orlando for close to the cost or cheaper than Disney. My personal preference is to stay on property at the best resort I can afford when I go because everywhere I turn is Mickey Mouse and pals...and the princesses...

 

[jlsHouston]

Deluxe does not mean 4 or 5 star, its deluxe and the Disney resort that are deluxe live up to their name without a problem, especially when you add it the theming, pools , restaurants and other amenities. What also has to be taken into account is that Disney resorts was themed to unique subjects, IE Wilderness lodge, the poly, Old Key west. in these areas the regular deluxe and luxury cannot match them.

Add to that Location, location, on the WDW property, the resort fully delivery what they advertise.

Now do they match a 4 or 5 star hotel like the Plaza or 4 seasons.................no...........nor are they trying to. Those resorts are directed to a totally different clientele.

It is like the old story............your comparing apples to ornages.

I can agree that maybe when we speak value/mod/deluxe in terms of Disney resorts we should not compare them to 3/4/5 star hotel properties because there are differences in the um..."fruit" so to speak.

But when we all have stayed at a motel 6 or a holiday inn or a hyatt or hilton and we have all heard of the Ritz and identify it as a name that means upscale, then I do think it is appropriate to relate the disney resort categories to these non disney properties in terms of pricing and benefits.

If you want to stay at Hyatt Place in the Dallas area you can find one for $ 79/nite and you can find one for $119/nite. It depends on where in the greater Dallas/FW area you want to stay. People are going to pay $ 200 per nite to stay beachfront in PCB at a Best Western in the summer but would never pay that at the Best Western in Laurel MS....I think we all understand that location is always part of the price you pay at a hotel just like name. The Hyatt name commands more than a Hampton.....

 

[BiffyClyro]

Nothing personal here.

Glad to here you like Disney and yes, UNI has done some good thing, I especially loved HP. Others things not so much.

Sir, with all due respect I just don't believe 2 weeks at UNI for 1 day at WDW.

We have to agree to disagree on this.

AKK

I don't know where you live, but you can get it here. It's not a flex ticket, it's a 7 day ticket and you used to get 7 days free. Don't believe me, whatever. Why bother replying.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I should have grabbed a big bowl of popcorn before diving into this thread.

Too many things to comment on in a quick reply, but I can say this - My family of 6 stayed for 3 nights at the Holiday Inn Resort, in a Kids Suite, for less than 2 nights at a Disney Motel 6 (aka. Value or even Moderate) resort. Even with a car rental, we paid less, got more, and got to where we wanted to go faster than when we stay on-property. In fact, we bought about $120 in groceries and only needed to eat one meal a day in the parks, so even our food costs were significantly lower than staying on-property, plus we basically ate better quality food than most of the over-priced slop Disney foists onto guests. Oh, but we weren't exposed to the "Disney magic(al draining of your wallet)" 24x7, so in that regard... we really came out ahead.

My point is - Once you stay on-property a few times, and you start to think, "Hmmm... what is it like to stay off-property?" and actually try it out once or twice, your desire to stay on-property again can be reduced significantly. It's almost as if... once you get away from the constant barrage of pixie-dust, lollipops, and unicorns, and you start to explore what lies outside of the "Disney curtain", the things Disney does start to take on a much different look and feel.

Oh, and as for FP+? I'd love for someone to tell me what's so damn great about a system that now limits me to 3 FPs per day, in only one park, when prior to this massive waste of nearly $2 billion of corporate capital I could get 10 FPs in a day, at 3 different parks, if I wanted to and was just a little bit smart about it. Because I fail to see how my park experience is now oh-so-much better.

 

[BiffyClyro]

Was something like this what you've seen?

http://www.floridatix.co.uk/orlando-flexticketplus-universal.aspx

Yeah something like that but it was around £119, maybe not even that. We just got the universal/ island of adventure one though. I think it was a 7 day one with 7 days free. It was back in June. We bought our universal tickets back at home and then went to get one day disney tickets when we were there and that's how I know.

 

[wm49rs]

Yeah something like that but it was around £119, maybe not even that. We just got the universal/ island of adventure one though. I think it was a 7 day one with 7 days free. It was back in June. We bought our universal tickets back at home and then went to get one day disney tickets when we were there and that's how I know.

Thanks for the update....

 

[jlsHouston]

not everyone can afford the DVC or monthly trips to WDW . just sayin'


Would you prefer Macy's room? lol

OMG..I just realized my typo LOEW's!!! I don't want to stay at LOWES!!! But LOEWS for less than $ 200 a nite, bring it on!

 

[asianway]

I should have grabbed a big bowl of popcorn before diving into this thread.

Too many things to comment on in a quick reply, but I can say this - My family of 6 stayed for 3 nights at the Holiday Inn Resort, in a Kids Suite, for less than 2 nights at a Disney Motel 6 (aka. Value or even Moderate) resort. Even with a car rental, we paid less, got more, and got to where we wanted to go faster than when we stay on-property. In fact, we bought about $120 in groceries and only needed to eat one meal a day in the parks, so even our food costs were significantly lower than staying on-property, plus we basically ate better quality food than most of the over-priced slop Disney foists onto guests. Oh, but we weren't exposed to the "Disney magic(al draining of your wallet)" 24x7, so in that regard... we really came out ahead.

My point is - Once you stay on-property a few times, and you start to think, "Hmmm... what is it like to stay off-property?" and actually try it out once or twice, your desire to stay on-property again can be reduced significantly. It's almost as if... once you get away from the constant barrage of pixie-dust, lollipops, and unicorns, and you start to explore what lies outside of the "Disney curtain", the things Disney does start to take on a much different look and feel.

Oh, and as for FP+? I'd love for someone to tell me what's so damn great about a system that now limits me to 3 FPs per day, in only one park, when prior to this massive waste of nearly $2 billion of corporate capital I could get 10 FPs in a day, at 3 different parks, if I wanted to and was just a little bit smart about it. Because I fail to see how my park experience is now oh-so-much better.

Its called FP socialism

 

[Cesar R M]

That is my point. What is a fair price to one person may not be to another. I think one day ticket to Disney is way to high, but so is Universal and so many other park tickets. For the way I visit Walt Disney World it is a good deal. I make several trips per year (driving six hours each way) and do not have to see everything on ever visit. I might only go on three or four rides during a three day trip. So things just work out for me and my family. So if Universal or any other park is a better deal for your family than go there.

I still do not think the DVC club group is the majority to take as principle and base for WDW "low prices".
DVC are not "everyday" customers. they are "high" levels or "hardcore".

And you are doing a great job of holding up your motto "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...Baffle them with bull!". Disney may not be the Ritz, but the room I stayed in last month at Animal Kingdom was sure a luxury room to me and I have traveled all over the world.

Well, that one was a "deluxe" right? starting at 313 USD per night according to disney's site..

Attendance on this site has almost reached 77,000 members. I think it's doing ok. And anyone who does like the tenor of the conversation has plenty of alternatives....

I wonder if all the members are active users or just "casuals".
I know some of us are kinda "harcore" watching it more than a single time per day, and posting daily too!

Most have seen what goes on here and you are correct. The small group just wants to bash Disney and if anyone stands up to them they gang up, twist the facts, etc. The funny part is I am not happy with a lot of what Iger is doing !

This is why attendance/posting on this site is going down, many just won't bother with them.

As to this case, I have no problem with the original poster, but I knew I was right, but its not important, but thanks !

AKK

I would say the same about your group of hardcore Disney "fans". In the point I see it..there are 4 or more of you. 4 of who repeat the same similar mantra about Disney. (here at wdwmagic.com I mean)
Funny thing is, the special 4.. have a special interest into Disney that the others groups dont.

One is a DVC Owner (who would undervalued something they paid so much money on?)
Other is a Sales/Vendor travel agent based on Disney (who would insult the thing that feeds you?)
Jimmy and last one, both agreed on having Disney Stock.

Thus the opinions in general seems based on the value of what Disney gives them than the look and feel of a everyday Disney Customer.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy would care less if WDW exploded in flames in an erupting volcano..Of course; as long it still gave him Disney Stock value.

So forgive me to think this group's opinions are a bit skewed regarding what one group see and what the others see.

While I am not "gloom and doom" or "hater" or "basher" as your group loves to say all the time. I'm not blind by pixie dust.
I do get really disappointing, that some stuff that Your group could see it everyday.. I will not be able to ever see it or see it again due of "costs" or "executive cuts"(or whatever you call it).
As I do not have the luxury of travelling one, twice or thrice to the US and then to WDW. (outside the country).

Member and the number of people posting seem to be 2 different things.
I don't like the ganging up part, but I enjoy a debate and am able to make my points, so I think I'll stay and enjoy your company.

AKK

I think the problem is, your group keeps calling the other group "irrelevant" or claiming their points are invalid this is when "ganging up" happens. Despite having proof in hand. (and as I said before.. the whole MY VIEW as a Elite Disney vs THEIR VIEW as normal Disney Fan) is really skewing things up.
This behaviour is pretty usual (the disregarding of what the other group has to say despite facts) in the losing groups in any conversation related to religion, brand loyalty or politics.

OK, here are a few pics from when I stayed at Portofino Bay last April.

And here are the current AP Discounts

That is really a nice room!
looks way bigger than your default rooms you see at POR.

This is the cheapest prices I can find using our Discount system. (note, these are individual tickets not sold via packages..)
as I'm pretty sure they are cheaper when you book with dinning plan + hotel.

Unfortunately when we were there, we were joined by the pop warner folks so the place was so noise that you couldn't sleep till they finally put the little terrors to rest late at night.

seems It always depends in the timings and luck to enjoy a trip 100%.
IT could be a problem in the room.... there could be a problem with your registration, there could be noisy neighbours... etc..etc..

 

[draybook]

I should have grabbed a big bowl of popcorn before diving into this thread.

 

[Cesar R M]

 

[englanddg]