O'Sentinel - NextGen - 1/17/10

fillerup

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From the Sunday Sentinel:


Disney’s ‘NextGen’ may heighten visitors’ enjoyment



The Walt Disney Co.’s theme-park division is quietly working on a major technology initiative that boosters hope could radically transform the theme-park experience.

Details of the project, dubbed within Walt Disney Parks and Resorts as “next generation experience” or “NextGen,” are being closely guarded. But there is widespread speculation among former Disney executives and bloggers who follow the company that at least part of the project involves wireless-communication technology that could be used in concepts ranging from keyless hotel-room doors to rides and shows in which the experience varies based on an individual guest’s preferences.
The budget for the program totals $1 billion to $1.5 billion, according to former Disney parks executives who spoke only on the condition that they not be identified. The amount is roughly comparable to what Disney is spending to build a pair of 4,000-passenger cruise ships.

Just before Christmas, Disney assigned oversight of the project to Nick Franklin, head of global business and real-estate development for the company’s theme-park unit. Franklin’s newest title is “executive vice president of next generation experience.” At Walt Disney World, the project is being led by Jim MacPhee, a vice president who once ran the Epcot theme park. MacPhee’s title was changed last month to vice president of park operations and next generation experience.
Disney would not discuss specifics of the project.


“Our company has a long history of leveraging technology to enhance the experience of our guests, and we are constantly exploring new opportunities to build on that legacy,” spokeswoman Tasia Filippatos said.


Though Disney typically keeps a tight lid on projects in development, the strict silence surrounding the NextGen initiative has surprised some company veterans. Disney has required employees assigned to the project — “several dozen” people are currently working on it, according to one of the former executives — to sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from discussing their work, even with colleagues.
One former Disney manager described the climate surrounding the project as “super quiet.” Yet another likened the hush-hush atmosphere to the silence that surrounded the development of Disney’s Magical Express, the airport shuttle-and-luggage service introduced in Orlando in 2005.


“Usually you hear a lot of different things leak out,” added Michael Crawford, publisher of Progress City USA, a Web site devoted to Disney. “This has been really locked up.”


Several other people in and around Disney said they are aware of the NextGen initiative. But all said they were either unfamiliar with details or that they could not discuss them.


Bloggers speculate
The secrecy, of course, hasn’t stopped speculation. Though the “NextGen” work has multiple components, several Disney bloggers, including Crawford, have reported that a key part involves the development of radio-frequency identification microchips that could be implanted into park passes or wristbands. Guests would supply personal information ahead of their arrival — from their names and credit-card numbers to their favorite Disney characters — that would be downloaded onto the RFID microchips, which would then interact with sensors deployed throughout Disney’s resorts.


Disney has discussed the technology with Precision Dynamics Corp., a San Fernando, Calif.-based company that manufactures RFID wristbands. A representative for the company said he could not elaborate on those talks because Precision Dynamics has signed a non-disclosure agreement with Disney.


RFID technology has “certainly been on Disney’s radar as well as the other major [tourism] players in the Orlando area,” said Tom Foster, sales manager for Precision Dynamics’ RFID solutions group.


Crawford said he has been told that Disney’s work includes what is being called a “personal experience portal,” which he thinks could be the online site that guests would use to provide personal details and preferences. The blogger noted that posts he has written in recent months on Disney’s RFID efforts have attracted unusually heavy Internet traffic from IP addresses associated with Disney offices in Orlando and California.


RFID technology is already used in many areas of everyday life, from the contact-information chips that pet owners have implanted in their dogs and cats to the bracelets that hospitals use to track patients and their treatments. The technology is spreading through the amusement industry, too.


Indoor-water-park operator Great Wolf Resorts now uses RFID wristbands manufactured by Precision Dynamics at seven of its 12 resorts in the U.S. and Canada. The wristbands function both as hotel-room keys and personal charge cards for guests, allowing them to buy food and souvenirs without carrying a credit card or cash.


“Given this new technology, guests who otherwise may not have wanted to go all the way back to their room for their credit card or cash and be inconvenienced may now be making purchases due to the added convenience of having their wallet on their wrist,” said Rajiv Castellino, chief information officer for Great Wolf Resorts. “The ease of use and convenience have proven to be big hits with guests at our properties.”


Personalized rides?
Though Disney is also interested in keyless hotel entry and cashless transactions, its full RFID plans are said to be more ambitious.
Former employees and bloggers say Disney is looking at using RFID sensors in attractions, so experiences could be tailored based on individual guest preferences. For example, as guests wander around a park or advance through a ride, their favorite animated character might appear and address them by name.


Another goal, according to the former Disney managers, is to greatly reduce or eliminate lengthy wait times at popular attractions — waits that can top three hours on particularly busy days and which a current Disney World executive said are routinely cited as a “key negative” by guests who visit the resort. One possibility is to allow guests to select preferred ride and show times and then use RFID scanners at attraction entrances to verify that they are showing up at the correct time.


RIFD tracking could also give Disney much more detailed data about its guests’ spending habits and movements, which could in turn be a powerful sales tool. Disney might be able to tell, for instance, that a family wandering one of its theme parks in the evening has no dinner reservations, and so could contact the family by cell phone to suggest nearby restaurants with available seats or promotions.


“The back story of this is they’re going to be able to track everything you’re doing,” said Al Lutz, editor of MiceAge.com and someone who also has written about Disney’s RFID development efforts.


But would it work?
The project isn’t without risks. Some former employees have expressed skepticism about whether the technological advances would do enough to boost attendance or guest spending at Disney’s theme parks to justify the $1 billion-plus price tag — or whether such money would be better spent on projects such as new resorts or attractions.


Disney also faces questions about whether guests would want to put so much thought into planning their vacations — and how such advance planning by some guests might affect others who could conceivably miss out on a popular attraction because time slots have been reserved ahead of time by those who planned.


Even eliminating attraction lines could be tricky: A theme park could actually feel more crowded if a certain percentage of people were no longer spending time waiting in ride queues.


Although Disney would not discuss its NextGen concepts, the company has said improvements to its guests’ vacation experience will lead to bottom-line gains, because happier customers are more apt to make return trips. There can be other advantages, as well: After launching its Fast Pass ride-reservation system in 1999, for instance, Disney said guest spending in its parks rose as guests spent less time in queues and more in shops and restaurants.


Jason Garcia can be reached at jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5414.


http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2010/01/disney’s-‘nextgen’-may-heighten-visitors’-enjoyment/
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
Very interesting. My guess is that it will be nice, but controversial. There will always be privacy concerns.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
From the Sunday Sentinel:


Disney’s ‘NextGen’ may heighten visitors’ enjoyment



The Walt Disney Co.’s theme-park division is quietly working on a major technology initiative that boosters hope could radically transform the theme-park experience.

Details of the project, dubbed within Walt Disney Parks and Resorts as “next generation experience” or “NextGen,” are being closely guarded. But there is widespread speculation among former Disney executives and bloggers who follow the company that at least part of the project involves wireless-communication technology that could be used in concepts ranging from keyless hotel-room doors to rides and shows in which the experience varies based on an individual guest’s preferences.
The budget for the program totals $1 billion to $1.5 billion, according to former Disney parks executives who spoke only on the condition that they not be identified. The amount is roughly comparable to what Disney is spending to build a pair of 4,000-passenger cruise ships.

Just before Christmas, Disney assigned oversight of the project to Nick Franklin, head of global business and real-estate development for the company’s theme-park unit. Franklin’s newest title is “executive vice president of next generation experience.” At Walt Disney World, the project is being led by Jim MacPhee, a vice president who once ran the Epcot theme park. MacPhee’s title was changed last month to vice president of park operations and next generation experience.
Disney would not discuss specifics of the project.


“Our company has a long history of leveraging technology to enhance the experience of our guests, and we are constantly exploring new opportunities to build on that legacy,” spokeswoman Tasia Filippatos said.


Though Disney typically keeps a tight lid on projects in development, the strict silence surrounding the NextGen initiative has surprised some company veterans. Disney has required employees assigned to the project — “several dozen” people are currently working on it, according to one of the former executives — to sign confidentiality agreements forbidding them from discussing their work, even with colleagues.
One former Disney manager described the climate surrounding the project as “super quiet.” Yet another likened the hush-hush atmosphere to the silence that surrounded the development of Disney’s Magical Express, the airport shuttle-and-luggage service introduced in Orlando in 2005.


“Usually you hear a lot of different things leak out,” added Michael Crawford, publisher of Progress City USA, a Web site devoted to Disney. “This has been really locked up.”


Several other people in and around Disney said they are aware of the NextGen initiative. But all said they were either unfamiliar with details or that they could not discuss them.


Bloggers speculate
The secrecy, of course, hasn’t stopped speculation. Though the “NextGen” work has multiple components, several Disney bloggers, including Crawford, have reported that a key part involves the development of radio-frequency identification microchips that could be implanted into park passes or wristbands. Guests would supply personal information ahead of their arrival — from their names and credit-card numbers to their favorite Disney characters — that would be downloaded onto the RFID microchips, which would then interact with sensors deployed throughout Disney’s resorts.


Disney has discussed the technology with Precision Dynamics Corp., a San Fernando, Calif.-based company that manufactures RFID wristbands. A representative for the company said he could not elaborate on those talks because Precision Dynamics has signed a non-disclosure agreement with Disney.


RFID technology has “certainly been on Disney’s radar as well as the other major [tourism] players in the Orlando area,” said Tom Foster, sales manager for Precision Dynamics’ RFID solutions group.


Crawford said he has been told that Disney’s work includes what is being called a “personal experience portal,” which he thinks could be the online site that guests would use to provide personal details and preferences. The blogger noted that posts he has written in recent months on Disney’s RFID efforts have attracted unusually heavy Internet traffic from IP addresses associated with Disney offices in Orlando and California.


RFID technology is already used in many areas of everyday life, from the contact-information chips that pet owners have implanted in their dogs and cats to the bracelets that hospitals use to track patients and their treatments. The technology is spreading through the amusement industry, too.


Indoor-water-park operator Great Wolf Resorts now uses RFID wristbands manufactured by Precision Dynamics at seven of its 12 resorts in the U.S. and Canada. The wristbands function both as hotel-room keys and personal charge cards for guests, allowing them to buy food and souvenirs without carrying a credit card or cash.


“Given this new technology, guests who otherwise may not have wanted to go all the way back to their room for their credit card or cash and be inconvenienced may now be making purchases due to the added convenience of having their wallet on their wrist,” said Rajiv Castellino, chief information officer for Great Wolf Resorts. “The ease of use and convenience have proven to be big hits with guests at our properties.”


Personalized rides?
Though Disney is also interested in keyless hotel entry and cashless transactions, its full RFID plans are said to be more ambitious.
Former employees and bloggers say Disney is looking at using RFID sensors in attractions, so experiences could be tailored based on individual guest preferences. For example, as guests wander around a park or advance through a ride, their favorite animated character might appear and address them by name.


Another goal, according to the former Disney managers, is to greatly reduce or eliminate lengthy wait times at popular attractions — waits that can top three hours on particularly busy days and which a current Disney World executive said are routinely cited as a “key negative” by guests who visit the resort. One possibility is to allow guests to select preferred ride and show times and then use RFID scanners at attraction entrances to verify that they are showing up at the correct time.


RIFD tracking could also give Disney much more detailed data about its guests’ spending habits and movements, which could in turn be a powerful sales tool. Disney might be able to tell, for instance, that a family wandering one of its theme parks in the evening has no dinner reservations, and so could contact the family by cell phone to suggest nearby restaurants with available seats or promotions.


“The back story of this is they’re going to be able to track everything you’re doing,” said Al Lutz, editor of MiceAge.com and someone who also has written about Disney’s RFID development efforts.


But would it work?
The project isn’t without risks. Some former employees have expressed skepticism about whether the technological advances would do enough to boost attendance or guest spending at Disney’s theme parks to justify the $1 billion-plus price tag — or whether such money would be better spent on projects such as new resorts or attractions.


Disney also faces questions about whether guests would want to put so much thought into planning their vacations — and how such advance planning by some guests might affect others who could conceivably miss out on a popular attraction because time slots have been reserved ahead of time by those who planned.


Even eliminating attraction lines could be tricky: A theme park could actually feel more crowded if a certain percentage of people were no longer spending time waiting in ride queues.


Although Disney would not discuss its NextGen concepts, the company has said improvements to its guests’ vacation experience will lead to bottom-line gains, because happier customers are more apt to make return trips. There can be other advantages, as well: After launching its Fast Pass ride-reservation system in 1999, for instance, Disney said guest spending in its parks rose as guests spent less time in queues and more in shops and restaurants.


Jason Garcia can be reached at jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5414.


http://thedailydisney.com/blog/2010/01/disney’s-‘nextgen’-may-heighten-visitors’-enjoyment/
Stuff we already know, but it is VERY nice to see that information is being made more available to the public.


And yes, VERY quiet project.:fork: Much to my distaste. :lol:
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
Stuff we already know, but it is VERY nice to see that information is being made more available to the public.


And yes, VERY quiet project.:fork: Much to my distaste. :lol:

Well, as someone who is on the site from time to time, this was new to me. I'm really curious to see how this is implemented. I can think of all kinds of neat things AND all kinds of interesting problems.
 

the-reason14

Well-Known Member
I personally don't like the sound of this. It's cool that they want to make the parks more interactive and all, and I'm aware that they can already track me through the parks whether by ticket or old school, pal mickey. But I don't want Disney calling my cell for dinner, or having to wait In a long line simply because I didn't "plan" my stay accordingly. I rather things stay the same. I can see some benefits in It, but I don't want to have to be forced to participate in this in order ti fully enjoy Wdw.
 

wdwmagic

Administrator
Moderator
Premium Member
We've been talking about this one for the last year on the forum, unfortunately nothing new in that article, other than a summary of forums discussions.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
The amount of money is right.

The sad thing is imagine what attractions could be built, what wrongs could be righted, with that budget.
 

TubaGeek

God bless the "Ignore" button.
While I'd love to see the money go to update certain attractions, I think that developing this technology is key, because it has the possibility to make the refurbs that much better (just so long as it doesn't become a gimmick).
The haters will pop out of the woodwork for this one though. Same people who hate FastPass and the fingerprint scanners, I'd guess.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
The amount of money is right.

The sad thing is imagine what attractions could be built, what wrongs could be righted, with that budget.

I do think, though, that the tech will be put to good use. It should really change a lot of things,as I have been told and lead to understand.
 

SeaCastle

Well-Known Member
The amount of money is right.

The sad thing is imagine what attractions could be built, what wrongs could be righted, with that budget.

My sentiments exactly. I'd rather not have that amount of money being put to have one of the Seven Dwarves say my name as I come off Snow White's Scary Adventures.
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
The amount of money is right.

The sad thing is imagine what attractions could be built, what wrongs could be righted, with that budget.

My sentiments exactly. I'd rather not have that amount of money being put to have one of the Seven Dwarves say my name as I come off Snow White's Scary Adventures.

I echo these remarks. I suppose the little ones might get excited by hearing a Seven Dwarf say their name at SWSA, but I bet they'd be just as, if not more, excited if the new Fantasyland had another two or three rides attached with it. :shrug:
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I have many thoughts (some actually coherent and on-topic) but I'm actually running off to lunch with two of the other crazies you see on this site.

Garcia has really been working to get info on this and Disney is being incredibly quiet -- people have been told in no magical terms their jobs are at stake if they so much as breathe a word about what Disney is doing.

And while I'd like to think that's because they're going to wow us in some unimaginable way, the reality is likely much closer to what we've all talked about and what Jason wrote about.

Al's quote is on the money, by the way, about the pandora's box (shout to all the Avatar geeks) they're opening by the blantant tracking of guests and data-mining.

I'd much rather see a billion put into EPCOT or any of the park then be able to do cashless transactions with a chip, have Disney know who my favorite character is and have Sebastian talk to me 'under the sea' ...

But gotta run ...
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I have many thoughts (some actually coherent and on-topic) but I'm actually running off to lunch with two of the other crazies you see on this site.

Garcia has really been working to get info on this and Disney is being incredibly quiet -- people have been told in no magical terms their jobs are at stake if they so much as breathe a word about what Disney is doing.

And while I'd like to think that's because they're going to wow us in some unimaginable way, the reality is likely much closer to what we've all talked about and what Jason wrote about.

Al's quote is on the money, by the way, about the pandora's box (shout to all the Avatar geeks) they're opening by the blantant tracking of guests and data-mining.

I'd much rather see a billion put into EPCOT or any of the park then be able to do cashless transactions with a chip, have Disney know who my favorite character is and have Sebastian talk to me 'under the sea' ...

But gotta run ...

:lookaroun

It's going to be way bigger, and far more grander than that. Tell you later. :lol:

Though, a billion for EPCOT would be just as good, IMHO.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I have many thoughts (some actually coherent and on-topic) but I'm actually running off to lunch with two of the other crazies you see on this site.

Garcia has really been working to get info on this and Disney is being incredibly quiet -- people have been told in no magical terms their jobs are at stake if they so much as breathe a word about what Disney is doing.

And while I'd like to think that's because they're going to wow us in some unimaginable way, the reality is likely much closer to what we've all talked about and what Jason wrote about.

Al's quote is on the money, by the way, about the pandora's box (shout to all the Avatar geeks) they're opening by the blantant tracking of guests and data-mining.

I'd much rather see a billion put into EPCOT or any of the park then be able to do cashless transactions with a chip, have Disney know who my favorite character is and have Sebastian talk to me 'under the sea' ...

But gotta run ...

Right on...

Let's see, a billion dollars could complete the FLE, extend the SciFiCity theme throughout Tomorrowland, purchase a film for Soarin' that fits the theme of the pavilion, add a thrill E-Ticket to the back of World Showcase, complete Monsters Inc and Pixar Place and maybe some change leftover to begin phasing in a new land at DAK.
 

_Scar

Active Member
I'm loving this. With that budget, something revolutionary will come that will change everything hopefully. We all know Disney loves their money and since they could of built another theme park/resort/2 cruise ships etc I have a feeling they are working on something very, very special.

I knew some people would still see negatives in this though. :rolleyes:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I have many thoughts (some actually coherent and on-topic) but I'm actually running off to lunch with two of the other crazies you see on this site.

Garcia has really been working to get info on this and Disney is being incredibly quiet -- people have been told in no magical terms their jobs are at stake if they so much as breathe a word about what Disney is doing.

And while I'd like to think that's because they're going to wow us in some unimaginable way, the reality is likely much closer to what we've all talked about and what Jason wrote about.

Al's quote is on the money, by the way, about the pandora's box (shout to all the Avatar geeks) they're opening by the blantant tracking of guests and data-mining.

I'd much rather see a billion put into EPCOT or any of the park then be able to do cashless transactions with a chip, have Disney know who my favorite character is and have Sebastian talk to me 'under the sea' ...

But gotta run ...
You and JT have a good lunch?
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I'm loving this. With that budget, something revolutionary will come that will change everything hopefully. We all know Disney loves their money and since they could of built another theme park/resort/2 cruise ships etc I have a feeling they are working on something very, very special.

I knew some people would still see negatives in this though. :rolleyes:

There is absolutely no convienence or concept that I can imagine (and I have a vivid imagination) that can justify 1 billion dollars while there are so many needs not being met in the parks.

But I'm prepared to be dazzled. Dazzle me Disney. :dazzle::)
 

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