OS: Confederate Flag Removed from Epcot

[PhotoDave219]

It would be nice if this country would teach the true history of America and not embellishments or revisionist history. History happened and cannot be changed by writing a story or removing a flag or changing a teams name etc. I feel bad for History teachers that have to sometimes teach fiction instead of actual history. And the PC movement needs to die. The castration of America needs to stop.

Agreed. We should be teaching exactly what these Confederate leaders and States said and show exactly how abhorrent it was.

 

[ToInfinityAndBeyond]

It would be nice if this country would teach the true history of America and not embellishments or revisionist history. History happened and cannot be changed by writing a story or removing a flag or changing a teams name etc. I feel bad for History teachers that have to sometimes teach fiction instead of actual history. And the PC movement needs to die. The castration of America needs to stop.

Ironically, the same people who are fighting to keep the Confederate Flag flying are the same people who are revising the textbooks.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Well like I said I view American Adventure as a museum. In that respect I think the flag belongs. If you just view it as an entertainment attraction they really have no business telling the story in that show that they do.

Alas it's not a museum. It's an attraction meant to entertain.

 

[NormC]

Agreed. We should be teaching exactly what these Confederate leaders and States said and show exactly how abhorrent it was.

Agreed. Teach the truth and don't gloss over it or candy coat it. History happened whether we liked it or not.

 

[asianway]

I like how soup n salad sandy found some rube gnawing on a turkey leg to support Disney

 

[PhotoDave219]

So, extending that logic, Mexico wants to be a part of the US?

No but we might be willing to sell them back Texas....

 

[NormC]

Ironically, the same people who are fighting to keep the Confederate Flag flying are the same people who are revising the textbooks.

Revisionist history is being practiced by all sides.

 

[Disneys America]

You've got a Boy Scout camp on your site now and McMansions across the street.

Yup. I've lived very close to Haymarket for 30 years and lament the loss of the park every time I drive near there. It would've been a great tax generator for the area.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Yup. I've lived very close to Haymarket for 30 years and lament the loss of the park every time I drive near there. It would've been a great tax generator for the area.

Another neighbor! Hi neighbor!

 

[TeriofTerror]

I don't.

I think that this is one of the first times that people will realize they had it on display.

Besides, society is changing. It's not meant for public display anymore. Museums? Sure. Living History? Sure.

I think @PhotoDave219 is absolutely correct. Its presence would be far more noticeable and noted upon than its absence.

And I apologize if I came across as abrupt. I'm just so heartily sick of listening to defense of the Confederate Flag, the Confederacy, "Southern Pride", and the rest of it. I mean, I live in Northern Ohio, for Pete's sake. I'm not sure when the Mason-Dixon was moved to run through this state, but somehow (even though I'm less than 20 miles south of Lake Erie), I ended up on the wrong (southern) side of it.

 

[networkpro]

My great-grandmother's father and brother were skinned alive by European settlers because they were Native Americans. If anyone is interested in the details of the story, PM me and I will share it. History is full of tragedy and terrible inhumanity. I cringe when my son only hears the version of the story that portrays his ancestors as savages. I think the ultimate task is to use history to teach our children to learn from the sins of the past and not let inhumanity repeat itself.

Inhumanity is an oxymoron. Its always people doing things to other people... its not like the woodland creatures or space aliens suddenly decided to pick on people. Savage is such a subjective loaded term as is "native". What time period classifies one as a native and not just a migrant from somewhere else ? Before you get riled up, both my wife and I are descendants of American aboriginal peoples Apache and Cherokee respectively. We are not our ancestors and should not be judged by their actions or inaction only what we do or do not do.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Revisionist history is being practiced by all sides.

Yes, and its abhorrent.

 

[s8film40]

Alas it's not a museum. It's an attraction meant to entertain.

Sorry, but it is a museum.

 

[Jeffxz]

Alas it's not a museum. It's an attraction meant to entertain.

Do you consider the slave logs and all the other items on display in the lobby entertaining?

Edit to add: Although I quoted you Dave, it wasn't directed at only you, but at the idea that AA is not a museum exhibit.

 

[AgeEight-E]

So much for any hope of ever getting Song of the South released. This controversy will only harden their resolve against anything evocative of the period.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Alas it's not a museum. It's an attraction meant to entertain.

That's the point I've been making about Frozen in the Norway pavilion for months, and many people (including you) have argued that no, in fact, Epcot IS (essentially) a museum.

 

[Sage of Time]

Removing a hateful and racist symbol isn't PC. It's just common courtesy and mindfulness of history.

 

[AgeEight-E]

Removing a hateful and racist symbol isn't PC. It's just common courtesy and mindfulness of history.

How is it being "mindful" of history to pretend it didn't happen? That's the opposite of mindfulness.

 

[s8film40]

Removing a hateful and racist symbol isn't PC. It's just common courtesy and mindfulness of history.

I wonder how the people who run the holocaust museums would feel if they were asked to remove the Nazi flags.

 

[Sage of Time]

How is it being "mindful" of history to pretend it didn't happen? That's the opposite of mindfulness.

Removing a symbol from a theme park isn't pretending it didn't happen. A theme park isn't the right place to have these conversations.

I'll be incensed when it's removed from the history books and museums. EPCOT, despite being modeled after a museum, isn't really one, as long as Disney owns it and runs it for profit. It can certainly emulate a museum (and it should. A theme park dedicated to culture is a wonderful thing) but Disney does have to think about the message they are sending by leaving this symbol intact.