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Sirwalterraleigh

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What Florida has: low taxes.
What Florida doesn't have: affordable real estate, a diversified economy, suppliers to most industries, affordable utilities, affordable insurance, a skilled workforce, a government you can trust.
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Vegas Disney Fan

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They all have "cost of doing business" in Florida as pretty crap, which is the point. That includes the tax rate.

If taxes were the end all, they'd have built in North Carolina or Texas.
Possibly but they likely wanted to be near their core businesses, that leaves California or Florida, which is really no choice when it comes to taxes and a business friendly environment.

Florida may not be the best but they’re miles ahead of CA if you’re a business looking to decrease costs, which Disney is
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Add to doesn't have- quality healthcare and real food ( bagels, diners , Chinese food, pizza ) compared to NY/NJ,CT.
Those are things you need to attract and retain a skilled workforce.

Anecdotal and not a majority, but plenty of New Yorkers and Californians who moved to Florida during the lockdown moved back when their states opened due to the lack of amenities in Florida when compared to NY or California.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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No one has.

But no one can argue the size of California's economy, both within the US and globally.
Even within Californias borders there’s a lot of people moving for financial reasons, moving out of expensive areas like LA and SF for the inland empire is pretty common.

The downside of losing easy access to the ocean and the milder temperatures along the coast is offset by saving a half million on a house.
 

Lilofan

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Even within Californias borders there’s a lot of people moving for financial reasons, moving out of expensive areas like LA and SF for the inland empire is pretty common.

The downside of losing easy access to the ocean and the milder temperatures along the coast is offset by saving a half million on a house.
Family lived in Corona Del Mar oceanfront. No AC, just heat. Beach bungalow homes were $50K in the early 1970s. Same homes $2M today.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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California's economy is the largest of any state, and would be considered the 5th largest GDP in the world if it was considered its own country.....but somehow its not business friendly???
It’s not!… but it used to be, which is why it has such a massive economy, that’s changed drastically over the last 50 years though.

California HAD cheap land, cheap homes, and low taxes but that changed drastically in the 80s/90s. There was a time when people and businesses fled the expensive northeast for cheaper California but those days are largely gone.
 

Lilofan

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It’s not!… but it used to be, which is why it has such a massive economy, that’s changed drastically over the last 50 years though.

California HAD cheap land, cheap homes, and low taxes but that changed drastically in the 80s/90s. There was a time when people and businesses fled the expensive northeast for cheaper California but those days are largely gone.
My friend moved from NJ to CA more than 30 years ago for the climate, laid back lifestyle , surfing and the high quality weed.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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you think their size is based on their quality now as business friendly or not? That's some funny logic you got there...
Wait, so the large population base with higher than norm disposable income is NOT a business friendy feature?

The access to some of the largest shipping ports in the US, including the ones closest and with direction access to Asian markets isn't a business friendly feature?

The access to what is basically the R&D capital of the US in technology is NOT a business friendly feature?

The fact that the GPD has almost doubled in the past 25 years, and but for 2019-20 has continually increased, including NOW, is somehow proof it is NOT business friendly?
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
California's economy is the largest of any state, and would be considered the 5th largest GDP in the world if it was considered its own country.....but somehow its not business friendly???
It isn't. But it also has no shortage of talent, suppliers, or infrastructure to support businesses.

All Florida has is *checks notes* low taxes.

Some businesses only care about the tax bill, others care about the full package.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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It isn't. But it also has no shortage of talent, suppliers, or infrastructure to support businesses.

All Florida has is *checks notes* low taxes.

Some businesses only care about the tax bill, others care about the full package.

I rag on California all the time but it’s absolutely blessed with a nearly endless coastline, a great climate, and amazing natural resources… it’s just the management (and too many people / traffic) that make it an easy target for ridicule.

Fortunately for them their natural benefits, and the existing industries, still outweigh their unfriendly business climate for most.
 

MR.Dis

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I rag on California all the time but it’s absolutely blessed with a nearly endless coastline, a great climate, and amazing natural resources… it’s just the management (and too many people / traffic) that make it an easy target for ridicule.

Fortunately for them their natural benefits, and the existing industries, still outweigh their unfriendly business climate for most.
This is so true. Their energy policies bear watching. Right now they buy a majority of their energy from out of state. It will be interesting to see how the business community reacts to the dwindling supply of energy. My daughter is an electrical engineer who is a manager of designing electrical sub stations. Whenever the topic of California energy policies are brought up, she just cringes and walks away. It seems those who insist the the environment trumps all other concerns to do what to hear the truth on just how dire the situation is and how it is only going to get worse.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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This is so true. Their energy policies bear watching. Right now they buy a majority of their energy from out of state. It will be interesting to see how the business community reacts to the dwindling supply of energy. My daughter is an electrical engineer who is a manager of designing electrical sub stations. Whenever the topic of California energy policies are brought up, she just cringes and walks away. It seems those who insist the the environment trumps all other concerns to do what to hear the truth on just how dire the situation is and how it is only going to get worse.

Their timelines to switch to renewable energy and also to electric cars are both incredibly optimistic, and that’s putting it mildly, I’ll be shocked if both aren’t delayed for several years.

It’s a good goal, I don’t think it’s possible though.

I don’t know how they plan to add millions of electric cars to an already overwhelmed system but more power to them (😉) if they can pull it off.
 

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