Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products

CaptainAmerica

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They didn’t abandon this yet?
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lazyboy97o

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The company can use a good purge of prima donna "creative" executives. They have too many middle managers who think they're rock stars just because they have a hard hat in their cubicle.
Purging those people don’t mean anything if the processes still call for them to be there. Disney hasn’t fixed their processes to actually reduce the bloat. That it costs a little less is not a meaningful change.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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The company can use a good purge of prima donna "creative" executives. They have too many middle managers who think they're rock stars just because they have a hard hat in their cubicle.
It’s being done for wage busting…
…and conceived by bad upper management.

It’s not gonna result in anything meaningful. That’s not the recipe for “success soup”
 
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CaptainAmerica

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It’s being done for wage busting…
…and conceived by bad upper management.

It’s not gonna result in anything meaningful. That’s not the recipe for “success soup”


If the only thing that comes of this is that they trade some UCLA grads for some UF grads, it will be a net positive in terms of intellectual diversity within the company.
 
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EeyoreFan#24

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My sense is the real estate/facilities people responsible for development are just plugging along, not caring about the politics. Of course the c suite can turn the direction on a dime, but there concentration right now is managing a case in the court of public opinion.

Everybody has a job to do.
 

wutisgood

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Is comcast forcing this on people? Or are they just paying their recruiters more to poach people. I have to imagine Disney has more physical offices they feel the need to utilize. I think Iger might be out of touch on this because he sidestepped the pandemic and how effective creative people were able to work remotely.

I have a relative who works as another fortune 500 company. The middle managers tried to get all the engineers to come back to the office. The response was largely we know what work needs to be done in office give us flexibility or we will leave. Most of these engineers are paid more than the management. The people who need to do work on secure computers do come in but any meetings or non secure work are now work form home. Some employees work from home all the time, some that do secure work come in most of the time. In any case the middle management who pushed back to office was told that they should shut their mouths. Also engineers were given a no questions asked major market raise to account for inflation because that is what you do at a fortune 500 company with skilled employees you actually compete for on the open market.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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Is comcast forcing this on people? Or are they just paying their recruiters more to poach people. I have to imagine Disney has more physical offices they feel the need to utilize. I think Iger might be out of touch on this because he sidestepped the pandemic and how effective creative people were able to work remotely.

I have a relative who works as another fortune 500 company. The middle managers tried to get all the engineers to come back to the office. The response was largely F**k off we know what work needs to be done in office give us flexibility or we will leave. Most of these engineers are paid more than the management. The people who need to do work on secure computers do come in but any meetings or non secure work are now work form home. Some employees work from home all the time, some that do secure work come in most of the time. In any case the middle management who pushed back to office was told that they should shut their mouths. Also engineers were given a no questions asked major market raise to account for inflation because that is what you do at a fortune 500 company with skilled employees you actually compete for on the open market.
…it’s pretty cool that your relative works at the same company that I do 😜
 

CaptainAmerica

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I have a relative who works as another fortune 500 company. The middle managers tried to get all the engineers to come back to the office. The response was largely we know what work needs to be done in office give us flexibility or we will leave. Most of these engineers are paid more than the management. The people who need to do work on secure computers do come in but any meetings or non secure work are now work form home. Some employees work from home all the time, some that do secure work come in most of the time. In any case the middle management who pushed back to office was told that they should shut their mouths. Also engineers were given a no questions asked major market raise to account for inflation because that is what you do at a fortune 500 company with skilled employees you actually compete for on the open market.
Engineers are being laid off by the tens of thousands. When there was a labor shortage, tech talent could tell their HR departments to pound sand and basically set their own terms. That's no longer the case anymore. Workers are a lot less powerful than they were even a couple of months ago.

That said, Disney has a real estate problem in both California and Connecticut. If all of the people who have been working remotely came back into the office on the same day, there wouldn't be enough seats for all of them.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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Engineers are being laid off by the tens of thousands. When there was a labor shortage, tech talent could tell their HR departments to pound sand and basically set their own terms. That's no longer the case anymore. Workers are a lot less powerful than they were even a couple of months ago.

That said, Disney has a real estate problem in both California and Connecticut. If all of the people who have been working remotely came back into the office on the same day, there wouldn't be enough seats for all of them.
Engineers are still in incredibly short supply.

What happened in 2020-21 is that people who were retirement age…you know…actually retired? That reversed a trend of about 40 years.

It really shook up the system.
You know where else you can’t hire anybody? Try a school.

But digresssing. You’re reading half the news…but missing the important part. The laying off sectors are travel, tech and financial sectors…partly due to over-hiring the last few years…but mostly because those are the canaries in the economic coal mine.
 
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ChrisM

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Engineers are being laid off by the tens of thousands. When there was a labor shortage, tech talent could tell their HR departments to pound sand and basically set their own terms. That's no longer the case anymore. Workers are a lot less powerful than they were even a couple of months ago.

That said, Disney has a real estate problem in both California and Connecticut. If all of the people who have been working remotely came back into the office on the same day, there wouldn't be enough seats for all of them.

You'll notice these large tech company layoff announcements are being fairly non-specific about the types of roles being shed - but some have specified they are "global" reductions in force, so possibly not even US-based.
 

seabasket

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Lake Nona seems reallllly promising tbh. With a more bullish position on the parks and a more financially accommodating place in Orlando, Lake Nona seems like a no brainer. As an (admittedly biased) engineering Student in Orlando, Disney has been showing up to significantly more Career Fair events promoting internships. It seems like a loooot more opened up this summer compared to other summers.

The movement/remotework/maneuvering of existing Cali imagineering is a cross to bear for sure, and I dont think having all of imagineering in Orlando is a good move, but I believe moving a significant portion here opens so many opportunities for Disney to pull engineers from the Theme Park capital of the world., and build some truly great attractions.
 

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