Orlando Becoming East Coast Headquarters for Disney Parks, Experiences, and Products

[JoeCamel]

Lake Nona seems reallllly promising tbh. With a more bullish position on the parks and a more financially accommodating place in Orlando, Lake Nona seems like a no brainer. As an (admittedly biased) engineering Student in Orlando, Disney has been showing up to significantly more Career Fair events promoting internships. It seems like a loooot more opened up this summer compared to other summers.

The movement/remotework/maneuvering of existing Cali imagineering is a cross to bear for sure, and I dont think having all of imagineering in Orlando is a good move, but I believe moving a significant portion here opens so many opportunities for Disney to pull engineers from the Theme Park capital of the world., and build some truly great attractions.

And so many people in Southern California sit down to the dinner table and say "Honey I think we should pack up, sell out and move to central Florida.....
I did my 20 years in Florida - it is hot and getting hotter

 

[sedati]

Can’t wait for this to get built and then have a governing board installed to stymie its actions.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

And so many people in Southern California sit down to the dinner table and say "Honey I think we should pack out, sell out and move to central Florida.....
I did my 20 years in Florida - it is hot and getting hotter

…and Du…

…wait…never mind

 

[mkt]

And so many people in Southern California sit down to the dinner table and say "Honey I think we should pack up, sell out and move to central Florida.....
I did my 20 years in Florida - it is hot and getting hotter

While many did the move, I personally also know of plenty who refused the move and jumped to other employers, including to my employer.

Florida's a joke when you're laughing at it, not when you're in it being laughed at.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While many did the move, I personally also know of plenty who refused the move and jumped to other employers, including to my employer.

That was the “point” in the first place: wage busting

It was obvious. But a ridiculous concept…because now they jumped in bed with a regime that has publicly shamed/exploited TWDC more than any other incident in its history.

…lie down with the dogs, you know what you get.

 

[Lilofan]

And so many people in Southern California sit down to the dinner table and say "Honey I think we should pack up, sell out and move to central Florida.....
I did my 20 years in Florida - it is hot and getting hotter

Former DLR President Michael Colglazier who transferred from WDW to DL was asked by media what is the difference between DLR and WDW to him. Michael replied he doesn’t sweat as much at DLR.

 

[DCBaker]

Latest update on the Lake Nona campus -

"What is arguably Orlando's most anticipated development is set to take an important step forward this week, as The Walt Disney Co.'s (NYSE: DIS) new 60-acre Lake Nona campus will go before the city's development review committee March 9.

Lake Nona master developer Tavistock Development Co., which sold the land to Disney-related Dynamic Campus LLC in September 2021 for $46 million, is acting as applicant on behalf of the landowner for a request to approve a specific parcel master plan.

If the request is approved, next steps include submitting an official site plan, along with elevations, signage and landscaping plans for the city's appearance review board. Building permits would be the final step before groundbreaking for the project, which could cost north of $1.3 billion to build, based on expert insights and previous projections by Disney.

City staff recommend the request for approval, subject to conditions outlined in the report. The item has been placed on the meeting's consent agenda, suggesting the development review committee likely will follow that recommendation, as consent agendas are typically in place to streamline voting on routine or non-controversial items.

Conditions of approval outlined in the report include various process- and detail-oriented items related to planning, urban design, transportation, engineering, zoning, police, fire and water concerns.

Disney and Tavistock executives were not available for comment."

Full article below.

https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/news/2023/03/08/disney-future-lake-nona-campus-development-florida.html

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Cancel it…

No seriously…call Gavin and get a deal and cancel this exploitive nonsense

 

[Coaster Lover]

...which could cost north of $1.3 billion to build, based on expert insights and previous projections by Disney....

I'm no expert on building costs, but that price seems insane for (essentially) an office complex... right? I mean Aulani was built for (an estimated) $800 million in 2011 and even adjusting for inflation, that would seem to put this project either as just as expensive as Aulani or more expensive...

 

[Disstevefan1]

That was the “point” in the first place: wage busting

It was obvious. But a ridiculous concept…because now they jumped in bed with a regime that has publicly shamed/exploited TWDC more than any other incident in its history.

…lie down with the dogs, you know what you get.

Just so we are all on the same page, TWDC is a California based company, If the bosses in California didnt want this to happen it wouldn't have happened.

I thought for sure after the RCID cr@p happened this was going to be cancelled.

So, it seems to me, the bosses in CA (including Iger) say one thing and do another.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Just so we are all on the same page, TWDC is a California based company, If the bosses in California didnt want this to happen it wouldn't have happened.

I thought for sure after the RCID cr@p happened this was going to be cancelled.

So, it seems to me, the bosses in CA (including Iger) say one thing and do another.

it always comes down to money.

Despite its recent hostility towards Disney FL is still rated the 4th most tax friendly state for businesses, CA is 47th. Moving jobs to FL saves Disney a lot of money and Disney loves money above all else.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney loves money above all else.

 

[Coaster Lover]

it always comes down to money.

Despite its recent hostility towards Disney FL is still rated the 4th most tax friendly state for businesses, CA is 47th. Moving jobs to FL saves Disney a lot of money and Disney loves money above all else.

Disney:

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

it always comes down to money.

Despite its recent hostility towards Disney FL is still rated the 4th most tax friendly state for businesses, CA is 47th. Moving jobs to FL saves Disney a lot of money and Disney loves money above all else.

…they could always cut a deal.

But this move is about busting salaries to go for a place that leaves standards of living up to “economic whims”

It’s not subtle. It’s to crap on California and exploit Florida

People around here want to believe it’s to build more rides at mgm and a new waterslide on castaway key.

But my…how that tables flipped over

 

[JoeCamel]

But this move is about busting salaries to go for a place that leaves standards of living up to “economic whims”

It’s not subtle. It’s to crap on California and exploit Florida

It's just bidness

 

[mkt]

it always comes down to money.

Despite its recent hostility towards Disney FL is still rated the 4th most tax friendly state for businesses, CA is 47th. Moving jobs to FL saves Disney a lot of money and Disney loves money above all else.

Where are you getting those numbers. On this source, Florida is ranked 11th overall for business, 30th for cost of doing business, and 39th for business friendliness, while California is 29th overall.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Where are you getting those numbers. On this source, Florida is ranked 11th overall for business, 30th for cost of doing business, and 39th for business friendliness, while California is 29th overall.

I searched Bing for most business friendly states…

The Best and Worst States for Business Taxes in 2023

Businesses should consider how state and local taxes impact their bottom lines. Learn which states have the best and worst taxes for your business.

www.thebalancemoney.com

Different criteria will obviously give different results but I think it’s safe to say all of them will place FL well above CA for being more business friendly.

Is Forbes a better source? They have FL 5 and CA 31.

https://www.forbes.com/best-states-for-business/list/#tab:eek:verall

Or CNBC? FL 17, CA 33

America's Top States for Business 2021

CNBC unveils its 14th annual America's Top States for Business ranking, scoring all 50 states on 85 measures of competitiveness across 10 broad categories.

www.cnbc.com

Those were the first articles that came up in the search, I’m sure the rest will be similar.

 

[mkt]

I searched Bing for FL vs CA business climate…

The Best and Worst States for Business Taxes in 2023

Businesses should consider how state and local taxes impact their bottom lines. Learn which states have the best and worst taxes for your business.

www.thebalancemoney.com

Different criteria will obviously give different results but I think it’s safe to say all of them will place FL well above CA for being more business friendly.

Is Forbes a better source? They have FL 5 and CA 31.

https://www.forbes.com/best-states-for-business/list/#tab:eek:verall

Or CNBC? FL 17, CA 33

America's Top States for Business 2021

CNBC unveils its 14th annual America's Top States for Business ranking, scoring all 50 states on 85 measures of competitiveness across 10 broad categories.

www.cnbc.com

Those were the first articles that came up in the search, I’m sure the rest will be similar.

They all have "cost of doing business" in Florida as pretty crap, which is the point. That includes the tax rate.

If taxes were the end all, they'd have built in North Carolina or Texas.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I searched Bing for most friendly business states…

The Best and Worst States for Business Taxes in 2023

Businesses should consider how state and local taxes impact their bottom lines. Learn which states have the best and worst taxes for your business.

www.thebalancemoney.com

Different criteria will obviously give different results but I think it’s safe to say all of them will place FL well above CA for being more business friendly.

Is Forbes a better source? They have FL 5 and CA 31.

https://www.forbes.com/best-states-for-business/list/#tab:eek:verall

Or CNBC? FL 17, CA 33

America's Top States for Business 2021

CNBC unveils its 14th annual America's Top States for Business ranking, scoring all 50 states on 85 measures of competitiveness across 10 broad categories.

www.cnbc.com

Those were the first articles that came up in the search, I’m sure the rest will be similar.

Even still…that’s a big difference between “one of the best” and “one of the worst”

I’m curious what the top 16 are?
Without looking…are they underdeveloped places that have little policy/social structure/etc? And are always precarious to being wiped out in a crisis?

Bet Connecticut isn’t on there

 

[mkt]

What Florida has: low taxes.
What Florida doesn't have: affordable real estate, a diversified economy, suppliers to most industries, affordable utilities, affordable insurance, a skilled workforce, a government you can trust.