cranbiz
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You misunderstood, I think. The professional and career positions are close to 90% remote where the tech support positions are more hybrid, full time on site or a couple days on site, a couple days remote.
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Prince-1
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So then no backup except some personal anecdotal story. Sorry but that’s not evidence of what you are claiming. I’d say that the model for working has changed and that more people are working from home and are being as productive as ever if not more productive.
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trainplane3
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Lower paying is only good enough for wfh?
I guess building backend systems is your definition of low paying, non-career oriented jobs.
I definitely need to spend time to commute, spending money on gas and car maintenance, to be in an office, around noisy coworkers, hundreds of miles away from a data center (where my systems live), in order to work on my systems and projects. Wait, I don't! I can wake up at the same time, log on, and be working without the disaster of commuting to some miserable office that will only cause distractions and slow work for everyone.
I can still go into a office if I want to waste time but we aren't forced anymore since management has seen an increase in projects being completed on time and overall systems stability being much better.
It sounds like your specific situation is how your company works because it isn't how mine works at all.
JoeCamel
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Its the work, medical devices mean hitting doctors/healthcare facilities and selling the product. Not comparable at all, you get to work from home as it's all digital.
MrPromey
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Heck, my company closed our headquarters and subleased the space to ride out the terms of our lease there. We took up all three floors of a large office center building in an office park.
We still have a few remote offices sprinkled across the country along with a massive manufacturing plant that was built with some office space that's been turned into our "new" headquarters.
The majority of our office folks are now WFH with about half our senior VPs not even living in this timezone.
The only option for most of us is shared first-come-first-serve open workspace if we actually do want to go in so almost nobody does unless an in-person meeting is required for something.
It's been a little over two years now since I've seen anyone on my team face-to-face.
One of our new hires on my team last year was hired on the west coast where he still lives (we're in Florida).
For me personally, if I wanted to be distracted by relative strangers and sit in a new seat every day having to bring my laptop and all my other stuff with me and take it all home every day, I'd just go camp out in a Starbucks or Panera.
Just giving my experience to point out there are definitely a variety of ways companies are handling things. Our CEO even admitted he was completely anti-WFH prior to COVID but changed his mind after seeing how profits remained stable after the change.
I'm sure there was a loss of productivity for us and I'm sure they've noticed but looking at the savings on office rental, maitenance, power, insurance, office supplies, free coffee, etc. for our previous location and having our entire workforce report there every day, they've clearly decided the tradeoff is worth it.
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Feel free to back up “ tons” have been let go.
LSLS
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Full remote are mainly data analysts, but many QA personnel are at least mostly remote. Many utility companies executives have continued full remote. I know the VP of a major bank who has also continued full remote. It was tough to justify requiring in person when our company was setting record profits by going remote.
trainplane3
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Yep, that's what I was figuring but they were generalizing it as "doesn't work me, doesn't work for everyone". Certain fields work with it better then others. Point is, it's here to stay for the fields it works for.
el_super
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Except for some roles that were identified as needing to be on site for park operations, most of the salaried cast for DPEP in So Cal is included in that. Basically all of the roles that were being identified for moving to Florida. Disney is also chipping in some extra money to outfit home offices. It's a real thing.
Tha Realest
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Ironically, even if Chapek serves out his full 3-year term, he won't be around by the time Lake Nona's up and running.
peter11435
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Unless it’s extended again….
Disstevefan1
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Well they did stick us with Genie +, so anything is possible
cranbiz
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OK, maybe not in your industry but it is in mine. I work for one of the major global providers of consumer and enterprise IT solutions.
EricsBiscuit
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Bumping this thread because after this last D23, I think most of us can agree that WDI is dead creatively. Perhaps a move to FL and a significant reduction in headcount at WDI could be a good thing?
JoeCamel
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Someone needs to drive around lake Nona and see what is being built.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Oh no…California wasn’t “strangling creativity” at WDI…
That’s a company smoke screen.
The reason to move to Orlando was to get cheaper/lower standards and make it less advantageous for the staff.
It’s a cost cutting move…you could smell the “skunk” the very minute it was announced.
I’m sure we’ll get a lot of delusions of grandeur about building more in Florida or “hiring away universal staff”…but if wishes were fishes…
bcoachable
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I feel the “dead”comes from the fact that upper management feels there is no longer a need to be creative? We (the super duper Diz fans) keep cranking the turnstiles, so at this point why spend money on a segment of the company that spent (too much at times) money with little true return. If you don’t want a fifth park because it won’t bring the return on investment, possibly you think the same thing on any new ride developments in the future? No longer a big need for that part of the company… you can hire a company like AoA when you have an occasional need to create that “Mary Poppins Carousel”, someday-
makes me very sad, if this ends up being true- but that is my take.
EricsBiscuit
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I agree but the point is that a move to FL would kill two birds with one stone: save money and, since many weren’t willing to make the move, cut down on the headcount. I think what’s killing WDI is their bureaucracy. It costs them too darn much to build anything.
Sir_Cliff
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The issue seems to be more that at some point along the line those that understood what separated Disney parks from other parks either retired, left, or were fired and those who have taken over are unlike previous generations who were at least trained in an extended apprenticeship by those who came before them.
Now all that seems to separate Disney from other parks is the budget and IPs Imagineers have to play with. I'm not sure how the move to Florida changes this in any meaningful way.
Now all that seems to separate Disney from other parks is the budget and IPs Imagineers have to play with. I'm not sure how the move to Florida changes this in any meaningful way.
JoeCamel
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I think it is the mediocrity mandate that new ideas have to appeal to all so everything is bland. Give me a varied menu and let me choose but make it full of so much detail and content that everyone finds something that is great. That one little or great experience keeps you coming back to try to recapture the moment.
It's very much like an addict getting an amazing high or experience the first time and wanting to chase it again. Never exactly but maybe a new variant comes along and the chase is on once again. Theme parks are drugs if operated properly that keep the humans coming back to spend more.
There are no pioneers or lone rangers left, if you want to keep your job and progress you don't make waves and swallow every frustration that is handed down from above. Grind it out, keep your head down and collect at the end. So many are willing to settle for this.