On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[tirian]

Countdown to the earnings call to see how many of the latest rumors have legs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Countdown to the earnings call to see how many of the latest rumors have legs.

...what a grand shell game that will be

 

[mkt]

I hate to tell you...but that was a lot in 2003 at Disney

I know it was. It sounded like a lot. Until he said how many hours he worked and that the amount included per diem.

 

[tirian]

I hate to tell you...but that was a lot in 2003 at Disney

That was a lot in 2009 for Disney. Many low- and mid-level park managers were starting in the 37k range.

 

[flynnibus]

No. Read my typing. I'm saying they can't (if the provision is in the contract they signed) publicize their departure on social media, particularly in a disparaging manner.

Have an examples to your theory? Because I've never seen any separation agreements that try to manage anything like this.

And in the scenario we are talking about... we were talking about linkedin... which is a CV/job search platform - not just 'social platform'.

Your theory doesn't hold up.

Have you ever been NDA'd as part of a layoff?

Yes - and their focus is on your terms - not trying to put gag orders on how you address your work history.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I know it was. It sounded like a lot. Until he said how many hours he worked and that the amount included per diem.

That was my point. It was “a lot” and also pathetic...

If you want to be well paid...you best not have a gator in the pond outback...

 

[mkt]

I hate to tell you...but that was a lot in 2003 at Disney

I just broke that down into an hourly wage. It's a lot for Disney now.

 

[flynnibus]

Earns 43k at Disney....

Should be a poster of "pick your careers wisely... or you could be stuck being a furry for just 43k"

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That was a lot in 2009 for Disney. Many low- and mid-level park managers were starting in the 37k range.

Low end were less than that. $30 ish.

Unit managers were in the 40’s starting...departments in the 50’s and up.

I had lunch often with a general manager who had 2,112 rooms that grossed $500,000 a night...all in...and they made $70,000s

 

[mkt]

Earns 43k at Disney....

Should be a poster of "pick your careers wisely... or you could be stuck being a furry for just 43k"

Look at the upside. He got to see the world for free thanks to Disney.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Look at the upside. He got to see the world for free thanks to Disney.

...barely breathing through a fuzzy rodent head

 

[mkt]

...barely breathing through a fuzzy rodent head

I did a few of those events - my height range was one that DCE didn't staff for normally. A lot of them are nothing more than a 20-30 minute set at a Disney Store opening or 15 minutes for local press. And if it involves travel, you're there for at least two days. Longer if it's further away.

There's plenty of free time on the mouse.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I did a few of those events - my height range was one that DCE didn't staff for normally. A lot of them are nothing more than a 20-30 minute set at a Disney Store opening or 15 minutes for local press. And you're there for at least two days. Longer if it's further away.

There's plenty of free time on the mouse.

...don’t kill the joke, dude.

Let it breathe

 

[mkt]

Earns 43k at Disney....

Should be a poster of "pick your careers wisely... or you could be stuck being a furry for just 43k"

Getting fired from Disney was the best thing to happen to my career. It let me focus on finishing school and then leave the country to grow my career just before the US began the 08 recession.

 

[flynnibus]

Look at the upside. He got to see the world for free thanks to Disney.

Or put another way... there are lots of different jobs for people looking for different things.

But people keep pushing for the idea of common standard of living. Me being 20 and happy to live out of a hotel 3 weeks a month with no SO or family... is not the same as the 24yr old trying to start a family.

Or is it better if people would pick jobs that fit their needs?
And if employers have problems hiring people they need, they will adapt to get the help they need?

All too much people think employers are obligated to pay the person for the kind of life THEY want. That's not how this works... People have given up on the idea that if you want to advance you need to advance yourself too.

I know you've moved a good bit... I've moved 4 times to fit my expenses and location to what I needed to do to work the jobs we wanted and to handle my family. It's part of being an adult... not demanding my boss pay me more because my home interests changed.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Getting fired from Disney was the best thing to happen to my career. It let me focus on finishing school and then leave the country to grow my career just before the US began the 08 recession.

...I feel like there’s a story there

 

[mkt]

...I feel like there’s a story there

I was attacked by an guest, guest denied and claimed self defense, Disney proceeded to not investigate and instead terminated my employment based off of a false accusation.

I finished my bachelors in hospitality, left the country, went back to school, did a bachelors in graphic design, started my career, did a masters in advertising, returned to the states, and am a passholder and shareholder now.

 

[Miss Bella]

That's how my wife and I made long distance work earlier in our relationship. Lots of card churning.

I have enough Hyatt points to cover my two weeks in Japan and I can fly first class on miles. Now I just need the darn borders to open up.

 

[mkt]

But people keep pushing for the idea of common standard of living.

Nope, just a minimum wage that allows for a minimal standard of living without requiring unnecessary sacrifices, such as having to choose shelter OR food. A living wage.

Or is it better if people would pick jobs that fit their needs?

If the major employers that set the tone for wages weren't constantly leading a race to the bottom in low wages, that would work well.

I know you've moved a good bit... I've moved 4 times to fit my expenses and location to what I needed to do to work the jobs we wanted and to handle my family. It's part of being an adult... not demanding my boss pay me more because my home interests changed.

You call it demanding, I call it negotiating. I've negotiated my salary for the past three jobs as part of the hiring process.

But yeah, we're trying to move.

 

[mkt]

I have enough Hyatt points to cover my two weeks in Japan and I can fly first class on miles. Now I just need the darn borders to open up.

Same.

And that's not likely to happen for some time.

We've already canceled this year's trips, and we're likely canceling next year's trips. Really bummed out too, next year we were going to explore South America.