OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

DCBaker

Premium Member
Wait?! They already went to Disney World last week???
Apparently so - OCR updated their article last night. Mark Ghaly today did not say what parks they visited... he indicated that they did "likely" go to Orlando theme parks during that visit, but wouldn't specify which ones.

“We sent health officials to open and operating theme parks out of state last week, independently of operators, to assess the health safeguards in practice,” according to California Health and Human Services Agency spokesperson Kate Folmar. “These visits will help inform our pending theme park guidance.”

 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Newsom is the son of a judge, so he actually probably grew up hearing his dad speak like this.

I would disagree with that. I've known judges in my life, and none of them speak like this. They know the law and they certainly use legal phrasing in their work, but this is not what Gavin is doing. I also have several friends who are lawyers, and that's the same thing.

I have also known people in academia in my time. For instance, I was social with several people on the Board of Regents at the University of Washington several decades ago. None of them ever spoke anything like this. They were certainly very smart people, but they spoke basic English. If they wanted to use the noun "local" they would have just said "local", and would never have said "people proximate to" instead of "local".

This is not Gavin Newsom just being a smart person who grew up in a smart family. This is something else entirely. And it's very odd to observe, but darn funny at the same time! 🤣
 

Gottalovepluto

Active Member
“I know a number of people are continuing to wonder when that guidance is coming out and I like to say, ‘It will come out when we’re ready,’” California Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly said. “We’re working closely with our industry partners making sure that we take all feedback, use our own information from visits to operating parks in other states and then some visits here in parts of California to understand how those plans will come together.”

“In terms of the California visits, those are upcoming, and together the information and the dialogue with our theme park operators across the state will help us land in a place that I think we can all feel confident is based on the best and most up-to-date information,” Ghaly said during the news conference.

"Newsom administration officials went to Florida last week to assess the health safeguards in practice at Disney World and other Orlando-area theme parks.

“We look forward to compiling the information from those visits, having ongoing dialogue so we land with the guidance that really does make sense,” Ghaly said during the news conference. “I haven’t gotten the report back on what their findings and experience was, but the reason why we sent people is to really understand in action how a park operates, how the community around it functions with the park open in a time where we’re facing COVID transmission and really how it plays out not just within the park, but beyond.”


“How the community around it functions”

That’s gonna be a shining moment in the report. FL is so good about distancing and mask wearing.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I would disagree with that. I've known judges in my life, and none of them speak like this. They know the law and they certainly use legal phrasing in their work, but this is not what Gavin is doing. I also have several friends who are lawyers, and that's the same thing.

I have also known people in academia in my time. For instance, I was social with several people on the Board of Regents at the University of Washington several decades ago. None of them ever spoke anything like this. They were certainly very smart people, but they spoke basic English. If they wanted to use the noun "local" they would have just said "local", and would never have said "people proximate to" instead of "local".

This is not Gavin Newsom just being a smart person who grew up in a smart family. This is something else entirely. And it's very odd to observe, but darn funny at the same time! 🤣
I guess we hang around different circles then because I know quite a few academics that speak in a very similar manner. Additionally coming from a corporate background I know plenty of business leaders especially in high tech that speak the same way. So its not isolated to just Newsom.

But I'm glad it gives you a chuckle to tear down someones lexicon.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
I would disagree with that. I've known judges in my life, and none of them speak like this. They know the law and they certainly use legal phrasing in their work, but this is not what Gavin is doing. I also have several friends who are lawyers, and that's the same thing.

I have also known people in academia in my time. For instance, I was social with several people on the Board of Regents at the University of Washington several decades ago. None of them ever spoke anything like this. They were certainly very smart people, but they spoke basic English. If they wanted to use the noun "local" they would have just said "local", and would never have said "people proximate to" instead of "local".

This is not Gavin Newsom just being a smart person who grew up in a smart family. This is something else entirely. And it's very odd to observe, but darn funny at the same time! 🤣

Stilted vernacular displayed in that context is suppose to convey specific political meanings.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I guess we hang around different circles then because I know quite a few academics that speak in a very similar manner. Additionally coming from a corporate background I know plenty of business leaders especially in high tech that speak the same way. So its not isolated to just Newsom.

But I'm glad it gives you a chuckle to tear down someones lexicon.

But that's not how you talk here. You seem to speak perfectly normal English here, and you communicate like a normal person.

I'm not tearing down Newsom's lexicon, I'm lifting it up. Because it's hysterical! I don't want it to stop! 🤣

Seriously, when talking about theme parks he just replaced the noun "locals" with the phrase "people proximate to those theme parks". How awesome is that?!?
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Apparently so - OCR updated their article last night. Mark Ghaly today did not say what parks they visited... he indicated that they did "likely" go to Orlando theme parks during that visit, but wouldn't specify which ones.

“We sent health officials to open and operating theme parks out of state last week, independently of operators, to assess the health safeguards in practice,” according to California Health and Human Services Agency spokesperson Kate Folmar. “These visits will help inform our pending theme park guidance.”


Okay. So Newsom already sent a team to Florida last week, and this week he is sending a team to California theme parks.

I listened to the YouTube clips posted above fully, and it appears this was a misunderstanding because Gavin Newsom doesn't speak clearly. Just like I've been laughing about today, this mistake is due to the extremely long-winded and winding word soup that Gavin responded with, after being asked a few basic questions from clearly-speaking reporters.

And so... I think I rest my case on how ridiculous Gavin Newsom's made up dialect and communication style is. He can't even convey basic concepts like "Last week I sent a team to visit theme parks in Florida to observe their operation, and they are compiling a report on their findings now". If he had been able to make that clear statement, the newspapers and TV stations would have been able to report on it correctly yesterday.

I get it that Newsom and other corporate types think it makes them sound smart and savvy when they talk like this, but here's a perfect example of how it does just the opposite. ;)
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
But that's not how you talk here. You seem to speak perfectly normal English here, and you communicate like a normal person.

I'm not tearing down Newsom's lexicon, I'm lifting it up. Because it's hysterical! I don't want it to stop! 🤣

Seriously, when talking about theme parks he just replaced the noun "locals" with the phrase "people proximate to those theme parks". How awesome is that?!?
I tend to speak for effect. So it depends on who I'm around and the message I'm trying to get across.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

Well-Known Member
Next time you go to the supermarket, try asking the produce guy if he has "avocados proximate to this region".

And then watch the fun begin!

Still sounds too specific.

"The fruit, a botanically large berry containing a single large seed, of the tree likely originating from south-central Mexico, classified as a member of the flowering plant family Lauraceae."
 

Darkbeer1

Well-Known Member

>>“I know a number of people are continuing to wonder when that guidance is coming out and I like to say, ‘It will come out when we’re ready,’” California Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly said. “We’re working closely with our industry partners making sure that we take all feedback, use our own information from visits to operating parks in other states and then some visits here in parts of California to understand how those plans will come together.”<<

>>“In terms of the California visits, those are upcoming, and together the information and the dialogue with our theme park operators across the state will help us land in a place that I think we can all feel confident is based on the best and most up-to-date information,” Ghaly said during the news conference.

The delegation will include the California Department of Public Health, California Division of Occupational Safety and Health and the Governor’s Office of Business and Economic Development.<<

>>“We look forward to compiling the information from those visits, having ongoing dialogue so we land with the guidance that really does make sense,” Ghaly said during the news conference. “I haven’t gotten the report back on what their findings and experience was, but the reason why we sent people is to really understand in action how a park operates, how the community around it functions with the park open in a time where we’re facing COVID transmission and really how it plays out not just within the park, but beyond.”

Newsom’s administration plans to compile best practices from the Florida theme park trip.

“We’re trying to get a better handle on what we’re being told, what we’re reading about, and our own concerns and our own environment as it relates to what makes our theme parks distinctive and unique,” Newsom said during a news conference this week. “What’s worked in their states and what hasn’t worked in their states as it relates to guidance, as it relates to mandates, as it relates to messaging.”

The “stubborn research” done by Newsom’s team in Florida will help inform California theme park reopening guidelines.

“I want folks to come back and tell me what they saw, what their own experience was,” Newsom said during the news conference. “Because this is serious.”

California theme parks have been left waiting on the sidelines while other segments of the economy have reopened under Newsom’s four-tier Blueprint for a Safer Economy.

“We will continue to lead with public health, we will continue to look at our data, we will continue to look at where each theme park is in their counties so that we make sure that when the guidance does come out, it’s appropriate and continues to follow the whole frame to our new blueprint, which is slow and stringent moving forward,” Ghaly said. “Making sure that we do that safely and methodically.”<<
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Pffftt...

They probably didn't even visit Walt Disney World.
These are politicians we are talking about here.
Since when have the words from their mouths spoken truth?

When they said they were 'visiting Theme Parks in Florida', they hit up 'Gatorland' , Busch Gardens / Tampa , and 'Weeki Wachi".
They ain't foolin' me...

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TP2000

Well-Known Member
Pffftt...

They probably didn't even visit Walt Disney World.
These are politicians we are talking about here.
Since when have the words from their mouths spoken truth?

When they said they were 'visiting Theme Parks in Florida', they hit up 'Gatorland' , Busch Gardens / Tampa , and 'Weeki Wachi".
They ain't foolin' me...

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I kinda thought the same thing. Not only are these bureaucrats and politicians, they are from Sacramento and they are simply not the type to visit theme parks.

I wish I'd known they were going to Florida last week! I would have arranged for their Uber driver to take them to the Orlando Fun Spot instead of WDW, and then bribed a college kid from Valencia Junior College (Go Matdors!) to dress up in a Mickey Mouse costume from Party City and wave at them in the Fun Spot parking lot.

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