NuCitra Brainstorming Thread - Project Six: Blue Skies, E Tickets

[goofyyukyuk]

Completely agree, this is a really cool direction to take it. I think it would be interesting to create character attributes for these cryptids and let them interact with each other and guests throughout the attraction

 

[Pi on my Cake]

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I did this back in Season 16 as an expansion for Frontierland centered around a Woody ride while leaving it open for new stuff expanding out.

We could build off of this basic concept to save use the ground work of having to explain how we'd fit the ride in this tight area and appeal to the historian in Tiki by using that as a set up. House our ride either near the Woody ride as a transition to the Northwest or near Haunted Gardens connecting to the spookier tone. Plus, this Frontierland expansion would allow the current Frontierland up till Thunder be given a New Orleans overlay to tie better into PatF. Making its design even more relevant now.

Plus, we wouldn't need it to be a boat ride unless we wanted it to, since it wouldn't have to ravel along the Rivers of America at all. And being kind of off on its own means no need to tie it to Americana if we don't want to.

 

[JokersWild]

Ok, let's start developing this.

Firstly, personally I like placing the ride behind Haunted Mansion if only because I'd rather it be a part of Liberty Square than Frontierland. I think that it would be really cool to have the queue wrapped around HM right on the water. I think that we'd be able to narrow that section of RoA to add the path/bridge/ whatever.

In terms of the set up, these are my initial thoughts: 1801 in the Ohio River Valley. Guests leave the safety and bustle of Liberty Square and, eventually finding themselves in an abandoned frontier settlement nestled deep in the woods. Coming across an abandoned Keel Boat Company, guests board a boat and set off down the river, traveling deeper into the forest, encountering the Sasquatch, one of the many water-borne cryptids, and others all being pursued by the Wendigo. My initial thoughts are to have this ride be pretty dark in tone. Disney's never done a true horror dark ride so it'd be interesting to explore, though, of course, there's a line we have to carefully walk so we don't get ruined by the realism score. In terms of structure, I'd love to have the ride start outside before transitioning into the dark ride portion, which would be most of the rest of the ride.

In terms of ride system, I think that it might be worth it to look at Shanghai's PoTC ride system. It's super dynamic and it would let us really put guests in the center of the action. It'd be amazing to have guests be actually affected by these cryptids.

In terms of presentation, if we end up going with this, or a similar, direction I want to try to create a soundscape for the attraction. I did something similar years and years ago for Sorcerer's Apprentice where I scored an attraction with a bunch of Aaron Copeland music, and I think that this would be a great way to immerse the judges/ whoever while they read the project.


So, what are we thinking?

 

[NigelChanning]

Ok, let's start developing this.

Firstly, personally I like placing the ride behind Haunted Mansion if only because I'd rather it be a part of Liberty Square than Frontierland. I think that it would be really cool to have the queue wrapped around HM right on the water. I think that we'd be able to narrow that section of RoA to add the path/bridge/ whatever.

In terms of the set up, these are my initial thoughts: 1801 in the Ohio River Valley. Guests leave the safety and bustle of Liberty Square and, eventually finding themselves in an abandoned frontier settlement nestled deep in the woods. Coming across an abandoned Keel Boat Company, guests board a boat and set off down the river, traveling deeper into the forest, encountering the Sasquatch, one of the many water-borne cryptids, and others all being pursued by the Wendigo. My initial thoughts are to have this ride be pretty dark in tone. Disney's never done a true horror dark ride so it'd be interesting to explore, though, of course, there's a line we have to carefully walk so we don't get ruined by the realism score. In terms of structure, I'd love to have the ride start outside before transitioning into the dark ride portion, which would be most of the rest of the ride.

In terms of ride system, I think that it might be worth it to look at Shanghai's PoTC ride system. It's super dynamic and it would let us really put guests in the center of the action. It'd be amazing to have guests be actually affected by these cryptids.

In terms of presentation, if we end up going with this, or a similar, direction I want to try to create a soundscape for the attraction. I did something similar years and years ago for Sorcerer's Apprentice where I scored an attraction with a bunch of Aaron Copeland music, and I think that this would be a great way to immerse the judges/ whoever while they read the project.


So, what are we thinking?

I’d keep this attraction similar in tone to something like Maelstrom. Maybe a drop once guests come across the Sasquatch like in the Jurassic Park ride. I don’t know if that would work for Shanghai’s PotC ride system. Maybe we can call the attraction “Cryptid Encounter”?

 

[PerGron]

So I think the most important thing we can do here, more so than anything else, is we have to adapt these mythological creatures respectfully.

In the current climate, where a lot of these creatures (if not all) are very present in different Indigenous American tribes and cultures. We need to make sure that whatever we do with this idea isn’t appropriating or being insensitive towards the beliefs of these people.

Luckily, my best friend is an anthropologist at the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian in Washington DC so I’ll reach out to her to gather some insight on to how to respectfully but entertainingly adapt these creatures into a theme park attraction.

 

[mickeyfan5534]

So I think the most important thing we can do here, more so than anything else, is we have to adapt these mythological creatures respectfully.

I wanted to point this out while you were talking about it.

Luckily, my best friend is an anthropologist at the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian in Washington DC so I’ll reach out to her to gather some insight on to how to respectfully but entertainingly adapt these creatures into a theme park attraction.

What is your life PerGron?

 

[goofyyukyuk]

I’d keep this attraction similar in tone to something like Maelstrom. Maybe a drop once guests come across the Sasquatch like in the Jurassic Park ride. I don’t know if that would work for Shanghai’s PotC ride system.

I had just been thinking that an extended Maelstrom type ride would be best for this attraction. It fits the flow of our potential story really well in my opinion.

 

[JokersWild]

The only thing that I'll say in terms of tone is that this is blue sky and we're allowed to do pretty much anything. Why limit ourselves to an extended Maelstrom when we can go bigger and do so much more with this type of attraction.

Also, whatever we do, Sasquatch should not be the climax. Disney already has two rides that does literally the same thing with pretty much the same creature. Personally, I'd rather the Wendigo be the driving force of the attraction.

So I think the most important thing we can do here, more so than anything else, is we have to adapt these mythological creatures respectfully.

In the current climate, where a lot of these creatures (if not all) are very present in different Indigenous American tribes and cultures. We need to make sure that whatever we do with this idea isn’t appropriating or being insensitive towards the beliefs of these people.

Luckily, my best friend is an anthropologist at the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian in Washington DC so I’ll reach out to her to gather some insight on to how to respectfully but entertainingly adapt these creatures into a theme park attraction.

Please. I'd love for this to be as accurate/ respectful as possible.

 

[goofyyukyuk]

Are we wanting to feature one cryptid or a whole host of cryptids? I’d be interested in exploring more than just one or two, which I think is what we’re wanting to do, but I wanted to clarify.

 

[JokersWild]

I'd like to have multiple, but I think that there should be one that's more outwardly '"dangerous" leading to the climax, like the t-rex in Jurassic Park The Ride.

 

[Brer Panther]

I personally would like to do a lot of different cryptids. Seems more fun.

I had just been thinking that an extended Maelstrom type ride would be best for this attraction. It fits the flow of our potential story really well in my opinion.

Your describing it as being like Maelstrom honestly makes me picture the Sasquatch at the top of a lift hill shouting, "BACK! BACK! OVER THE FALLS!"

 

[NigelChanning]

Are we including Cryptids of American culture because of its placement in Liberty Square or others like Nessie, who are from other countries like Scotland?

 

[JokersWild]

I think we were talking about American cryptids. That’s what I’d prefer, at least.

 

[goofyyukyuk]

I think there’s more than enough American cryptids for us to use... some are less scary than others for sure

 

[goofyyukyuk]

I think we should try to feature the more well known American cryptids like Sasquatch/Bigfoot (to a certain extent), the Wendigo, the Chupacabra, etc so that it is more relatable to audiences, and then introduce some more interesting, lesser known cryptids in minor roles for the most part, so we’re mixing local lore with more nationally recognized cryptids in a convincing way.

 

[NigelChanning]

I’d love to have the Jersey Devil as the main antagonist of the attraction. Almost like the T-Rex in Jurassic Park River Adventure. In terms of obscure cryptids, we can have a section themed to creatures like the Loveland Frogman, Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp, and the Oklahoma Octopus! Dark Watchers (Native to California) are also pretty obscure and easy to adapt to an attraction.

 

[goofyyukyuk]

Should we split into groups to try and work on different parts of the attraction? I just realized the due date is in 3 days and with 4th of July, I’m worried some of us may be less available than usual over the next couple days...

 

[Tux]

Should we split into groups to try and work on different parts of the attraction? I just realized the due date is in 3 days and with 4th of July, I’m worried some of us may be less available than usual over the next couple days...

Hmmm.....I don't know about splitting into groups, I'm worried that if that does happen that a couple members might feel uncomfortable or left out over it, but at the same time, I don't want to wind up having some of you be too busy and the rest being left to rush and as a result nothing gets done. So, before parts start being assigned, can the people who are going to be busy please clarify so before it begins just so everyone else knows? As for the rest, maybe we could see what everyone prefers? Maybe there could be backup slots for certain parts just in case assuming the solo route is taken?

 

[JokersWild]

Yeah I’d rather us get the concept/ flow finalized first for consistency’s sake.

 

[Brer Panther]

And for those wondering... yes, I can totally do some art for this.