Not good but saw it coming

[SpongeScott]

I think he may have been kidding...

these usually help when trying to lighten things up: :lol: :animwink:

:wave:

 

[GothMickey]

Of course M:S may have aggrivated the medical conditions of the two people that died...I don't think there is anyone here saying otherwise. And we all know that Disney knows that thses type rides can aggrivate medical conditions...see, that is why they have all those warnings. Disney undertands there is a risk to riding some of their attractions and warns us.

Timmay, that is the issue I am having with some posts and people on here regarding this thread... People ARE saying otherwise.. They ARE blaming the people, not the ride... People ARE making the ride seem safe, when, in reality, there is an issue with the attraction... Hundreds of sick guests and 2 deaths are enough to take a step back and see what in the ride is causing this... People here have posted that healthy husband, wives, kids, have in fact gotten sick from this ride... people here ARE blaming the dead people, not M:S... In fact, only a few of us are here saying M:S aggravated there conditions.. Majority blame the people for going on the ride and not heeding the warnings.. Which is insensitve, especially since some health issues are not detected...

Disney needs to step back, close the attraction and figurew out what is going wrong with M:S... heck with the numbers.. To me, it only shows Disney doesn't care about the sick guests, as long as they make back the 160 million plus they spent to open this thing.

 

[Legacy]

Where are you trying to go with this??? Nothing here makes sense because nothing here remotely comes close to M:S and these unfortunate incidents with the attraction... If you are trying to say people should be held accountable for their actions, then Imagineering/Disney needs to be added too because their action of building this attraction has resulted in a lot of people getting sick, 2 deaths, and a load of people not enjoying what should be an enjoyable vacation...

And again, people do have UNDETECTED health issues... What you posted above is people doing something they know they shouldn't be doing... if a person has an undected health issue, they make the choice to go on M:S because they don't know something is wrong with them, and then they die... I cannot see how that person should be held accountable for their action...

But it all comes down to choice. She never had to ride the attraction in the first place. She never had to go to Disney in the first place. In fact... let's just take all of this back to the root of the problem and blame Walt Disney's mother for giving birth to him.

Your argument, in my eyes, is as audacious as the Spilt Coffee Incident. You seem to want to absolve this woman of all blame and blame Disney for everything, when that is simply not the case. Disney ISN'T to blame. They didn't build a death trap. If someone had died right when the thing opened, I might feel differently, but as it stands the timing on two people dying within a year of each other is (IMHO) more coincidental than anything else.

Stop pushing your agenda for the changing of Mission: Space, and let those who CHOOSE to enjoy the ride do so.

 

[Timmay]

thanks beavis -- just trying to lighten the mood.

It made me laugh.

 

[GothMickey]

isn't any thrill ride dangerous?

yes, but, how many times have you heard about hundreds of people coming off coasters and puking and getting dizzy and feeling sick??? Not as much as M:S... I mean, they had to provide barf bags.. Doesn't that tell them something???

 

[SpongeScott]

Disney needs to step back, close the attraction and figurew out what is going wrong with M:S

:brick: :brick: :brick: there is nothing wrong with M:S.

 

[SpongeScott]

yes, but, how many times have you heard about hundreds of people coming off coasters and puking and getting dizzy and feeling sick??? Not as much as M:S... I mean, they had to provide barf bags.. Doesn't that tell them something???

intense, yes. Dangerous, no. There is a difference.

 

[Legacy]

yes, but, how many times have you heard about hundreds of people coming off coasters and puking and getting dizzy and feeling sick??? Not as much as M:S... I mean, they had to provide barf bags.. Doesn't that tell them something???

There are barf bags on airplanes too... should we stop flying?

 

[Timmay]

yes, but, how many times have you heard about hundreds of people coming off coasters and puking and getting dizzy and feeling sick??? Not as much as M:S... I mean, they had to provide barf bags.. Doesn't that tell them something???

Yep, that if you don't follow the ride instructions, you may puke, get nauseated or dizzy...or all of the above. I am still missing your agenda...er, I mean point.

 

[Legacy]

And there are barf bags on airplanes as well. I guess that means they are also unsafe. And they are used fairly often as well.

I win!

 

[GothMickey]

But it all comes down to choice. She never had to ride the attraction in the first place. She never had to go to Disney in the first place. In fact... let's just take all of this back to the root of the problem and blame Walt Disney's mother for giving birth to him.

Your argument, in my eyes, is as audacious as the Spilt Coffee Incident. You seem to want to absolve this woman of all blame and blame Disney for everything, when that is simply not the case. Disney ISN'T to blame. They didn't build a death trap. If someone had died right when the thing opened, I might feel differently, but as it stands the timing on two people dying within a year of each other is (IMHO) more coincidental than anything else.

Stop pushing your agenda for the changing of Mission: Space, and let those who CHOOSE to enjoy the ride do so.

Ok, I have NO agenda on trying to close ot change M:S.. Disney can leave it the way it is for all I care.. I won't be the one dying or getting sick after being on it... Go on it all you want.. You are free to.. My choice not to ride M:S stems from me not liking it, not from getting sick, which didn't happen to me, thankfully....

As far as me wanting to absolve the woman and blame Disney: Same can be said for all of you who blame the woman and not Disney... Heck, you are right, she shouldn't have gone on M:S.. She may still be alive today enjoying Disney with her family instead of dying and having her family greiving...

I'll say it again: This woman may have had a pre-existing condition, and my feeling is she did, that she did not know about.... She made a decision to ride M:S despite the warnings because she ma not have known about any medical conditions she may have had... How can you fault the woman for that???? However, I can hold the ride accountable for "aggravating" a condition she may not have known she had... Surely not her fault.... However, if she did have a condition and KNEW about it, then fine, she did not heed the warnings and should have known better...

 

[jsfra209]

Doubt they'd demolish a $100 Million attractions that is 5 years old, and I still haven't ridden it yet!!!!!:fork: :fork:

Moose-

Yeah, but bad press and scruitiny could cost them a whole lot more. :dazzle:

 

[GothMickey]

:brick: :brick: :brick: there is nothing wrong with M:S.

Hundreds of people got sick from the attraction... but there is nothng wrong with it... So, I gues sthere must be things wrong with the other attractions where people do not get sick on....

 

[SpongeScott]

Hundreds of people got sick from the attraction... but there is nothng wrong with it... So, I gues sthere must be things wrong with the other attractions where people do not get sick on....

wow. you've got some warped logic there.

 

[Legacy]

Ok, I have NO agenda on trying to close ot change M:S.. Disney can leave it the way it is for all I care.. I won't be the one dying or getting sick after being on it... Go on it all you want.. You are free to.. My choice not to ride M:S stems from me not liking it, not from getting sick, which didn't happen to me, thankfully....

As far as me wanting to absolve the woman and blame Disney: Same can be said for all of you who blame the woman and not Disney... Heck, you are right, she shouldn't have gone on M:S.. She may still be alive today enjoying Disney with her family instead of dying and having her family greiving...

I'll say it again: This woman may have had a pre-existing condition, and my feeling is she did, that she did not know about.... She made a decision to ride M:S despite the warnings because she ma not have known about any medical conditions she may have had... How can you fault the woman for that???? However, I can hold the ride accountable for "aggravating" a condition she may not have known she had... Surely not her fault.... However, if she did have a condition and KNEW about it, then fine, she did not heed the warnings and should have known better...

If she didn't know about a condition, and Disney didn't know about a condition, but they warn that conditions can be aggrevated... than NO ONE IS AT FAULT. Not Disney, not the woman, not the ride, no one. It's called life and sometimes, things just happen because. You seem to be calling for a justification when, in fact, there probably isn't one.

 

[JimboJones123]

what's the daily "mopout" rate?

 

[GothMickey]

Yep, that if you don't follow the ride instructions, you may puke, get nauseated or dizzy...or all of the above. I am still missing your agenda...er, I mean point.

A person is shot while sitting on their porch and dies.. The bullet was meant for someone else.. What you are saying is the person who is sitting on their porch should not have been there because they know at any given time someone can pull a trigger on a gun and you can get killed... Don't blame the person who pulled the trigger or the gun manufacturer because that person on the porch should have known better and should have stayed indoors..

 

[wannab@dis]

Hundreds of people got sick from the attraction... but there is nothng wrong with it... So, I gues sthere must be things wrong with the other attractions where people do not get sick on....

I've seen a LOT of people sick after riding the Tea Cups (and other similar rides). Is there also something inherently wrong with those rides?

**I'm not attacking you or twisting your post... just asking a simple question.

 

[totodog]

I'll say it again: This woman may have had a pre-existing condition, and my feeling is she did, that she did not know about.... She made a decision to ride M:S despite the warnings because she ma not have known about any medical conditions she may have had... How can you fault the woman for that???? However, I can hold the ride accountable for "aggravating" a condition she may not have known she had... Surely not her fault.... However, if she did have a condition and KNEW about it, then fine, she did not heed the warnings and should have known better...

Do you also hold Pirates of the Carribean responsible for "aggravating" a 77-year old woman's condition that led to her death? Do you hold Tower of Terror responsible for "aggravating" a 16 year olds condition that stopped her heart? It's fine if you do. But it shouldn't be a basis on which to close the ride.

 

[GothMickey]

wow. you've got some warped logic there.

I'm the one with the warped logic yet you say nothing is wrong with a ride that IS responisble for a lot of people getting sick and MAY be responsible for 2 deaths??? Now, which one is warped????