Not an engineer, but . . .

[WDWFREAK53]

Originally posted by cloudboy
They're talking about the secret submarine tunnel that leads out into the lagoon in case evil forces launch a water based attack and the Castle's Misile Defense System (CMDS) fails, they can send the nuclear submarines out to defend the Magic Kingdom!

By evil forces you mean the It's a Small World dolls.

 

[DMC-12]

Originally posted by WDWFREAK53
By evil forces you mean the It's a Small World dolls.

:lol:

Of course, and the Evil SpectroMagic Chucky Dolls as well. :lookaroun

 

[marni1971]

Originally posted by Lee
My favorite....tunnels UNDER the lagoon.

Uh-uh. Try NEXT TO the lagoon.

Thanks for that Lee - I was pretty certain there is no utilidor area under the actual Lagoon (dosn`t the bed of the Lagoon sit at actual ground level?)

 

[bugsbunny]

Originally posted by PolarJim
I'm not a civil engineer but I'm a mechanical

I'm not sure of the exact differences of the line of work, but an old friend of mine that worked for Lockheed said: "The difference is that mechanical engineers build bombers and civil engineers build targets.":lol:

 

[BalooChicago]

I'm not an engineer, but I am an architect. The rumors of the eminent collapse of the lagoon if the water was removed was just that. Sure, the water pressure was pushing on the one side of the wall, and the soil pressure on the other, but removing the water pressure should not cause collapse. There is no need to wait for soil to "sit" or compress or decompress. the area will likely be filled with engineered fill and foundations built at a later date to support whatever future ride is planned. Chicago was built on a swamp. When Disney decides to build at this location there will be no impediments due to the 20k ride.

 

[DarkMeasures]

And Chicago is fun!!!! I took a cruise on the Chicago river yesterday!!! It was fun!!!

Anyway, there shouldn't be a problem because the imagineers went forward with this. (even though there seems to be a lot of flaws for expanding the park)

 

[Figment1986]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
Chicago was built on a swamp. When Disney decides to build at this location there will be no impediments due to the 20k ride.

Wasn't many chunks of WDW built on swamp too, and that isn't in much danger of sinking too much....

(settling is normal for buildings in florida)

 

[BalooChicago]

Originally posted by Figment1986
Wasn't many chunks of WDW built on swamp too, and that isn't in much danger of sinking too much....

And structures are not typically built like your average American home - the foundations are designed by an engineer to take the soil conditions into account. In Chicago the foundation caissons for tall buildings typically are deeper than 100 feet, and these are buildings that often cost less than one Disney attraction. There are few places that are unbuildable, only financially unfeasible.

 

[MKBurn15]

Originally posted by Bill
Here's 11 bucks. *hands over a wad of Disney Dollars* Go buy a churro and leave me alone!:lol: I'm not an idiot!!!!:hammer:

11 bucks? YOu need at least $14 to buy a churro! :lol:

 

[Bill]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
I'm not an engineer, but I am an architect. The rumors of the eminent collapse of the lagoon if the water was removed was just that. Sure, the water pressure was pushing on the one side of the wall, and the soil pressure on the other, but removing the water pressure should not cause collapse. There is no need to wait for soil to "sit" or compress or decompress. the area will likely be filled with engineered fill and foundations built at a later date to support whatever future ride is planned. Chicago was built on a swamp. When Disney decides to build at this location there will be no impediments due to the 20k ride.

Ah, thank you! Finally, someone to back me up.

 

[Bill]

Originally posted by MKBurn15
11 bucks? YOu need at least $14 to buy a churro! :lol:

Umm, crap...

Get a half a churro.:lol:

 

[MKBurn15]

Yes. I agree with whatever the heck that means.

 

[Centrifugeer]

Originally posted by Figment1986
Wasn't many chunks of WDW built on swamp too, and that isn't in much danger of sinking too much....

(settling is normal for buildings in florida)

The MK was built on rocks and fill dirt that was piled to a height of 15 feet. It's the reason the tunnels exist in the first place. It's also the reason the Seven Seas Lagoon exists (that's were the dirt came from). Much of Disney World is built on fill dirt. It's a standard construction process here in Orlando, and in Central/South Florida in general.

 

[ONUpolarbears]

Originally posted by bugsbunny
I'm not sure of the exact differences of the line of work, but an old friend of mine that worked for Lockheed said: "The difference is that mechanical engineers build bombers and civil engineers build targets.":lol:

Yep I've heard that one cept my version is "Mechanicals build the guns, civils build the targets." I just don't understand why my civil buddies don't seem to find that funny

And how come everyone's gotta shoot down my idea. I came up wtih it spur of the moment. I haven't graduated yet, so gimme a break he he he.

Using my vast college knowledge I was able to run some numbers and I have confirmed:

When all the water is removed from the lagoon, I'm pretty sure it will explode in a giant fireball with heat and smoke and about 20,000 pieces of shrapnel will be flung into the air, blocking out the sun and kill the dinosaurs in the universe of energy!:lol:

Whoops, forgot to carry the one......looks like everything will be just fine!

 

[Bill]

Ugh. Look at what they teach em up in Ohio. :hammer:

 

[ONUpolarbears]

ok, so after correcting my equations, I found that the lagoon will be ok to drain.......and also proved that a harry potter ride in fantasy land, cannot exist......dont' argue with it, equations don't lie

 

[JET12monorail]

For those of you who actually eat churros, i'm sorry that you find it necessary to spend 14 dollars on a Mexican treat made from PEOPLE.

For all of you 20K lovers out there, i'm gonna ruin your day----
GET OVER IT!!!!!

The ride was horrible, Let's face it. It made me want to:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

 

[marni1971]

Originally posted by BalooChicago
And structures are not typically built like your average American home - the foundations are designed by an engineer to take the soil conditions into account. In Chicago the foundation caissons for tall buildings typically are deeper than 100 feet, and these are buildings that often cost less than one Disney attraction. There are few places that are unbuildable, only financially unfeasible.

For example, concerning the WDW property...Space Earths six legs have foundations 100ft deep. American Adventures `war wagon` (the undertheatre conveyor that carries the sets) weighs 175 tonnes and needs pillings 300ft deep to stable it...

I believe the only major part of property that is unusable (north of 192) is the area east of Animal Kingdom around Reedy Creek. This was the absolute limit of the AK park during planning.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by JET12monorail
For those of you who actually eat churros, i'm sorry that you find it necessary to spend 14 dollars on a Mexican treat made from PEOPLE.

For all of you 20K lovers out there, i'm gonna ruin your day----
GET OVER IT!!!!!

The ride was horrible, Let's face it. It made me want to:hammer:

Ok then...:lookaroun

:wave: :lookaroun

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by marni1971
Thanks for that Lee - I was pretty certain there is no utilidor area under the actual Lagoon (dosn`t the bed of the Lagoon sit at actual ground level?)

Correct.
The utilidors run just to the southwest of the lagoon.
And yes, the lagoon sits at ground level.