Norway Pavilion Frozen construction - Frozen Ever After ride

[SoupBone]

So where are the pics of this heaping pile of animal excrement?

 

[mimitchi33]

And say what you will about Disney as a company: They never fire cast members once their attractions become defunct; they instead re-train and re-purpose them, allowing them to soldier on, power tools in hand, and a song in their hearts!

Is it me, or do the two guys in that picture remind me of Dreamfinder?

So where are the pics of this heaping pile of animal excrement?

I don't think they'll be out now, but rather in a couple of weeks' time.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Cinderella II and III weren't nearly as popular as Cinderella...does that mean Cinderella was a flop? The Little Mermaid has a 92% rotten Tomatoes score, but the Little Mermaid 2 got a 33% -- guess Little Mermaid was just a fad too.

Now I will ask - has there ever been a Disney Animated movie (other than Pixar movie) whose sequel was a big success? I certainly can't think of one, and looking on boxofficemojo, The Jungle Book 2 made the most money of any Disney Animated movie sequel (disregarding pixar) at $47,901,582. When I heard Frozen 2, I kind of expected it would be another film like this. I do think Frozen 2 will be more successful than any other sequel in the Disney Animated Universe (again disregarding Pixar), but nothing about it's success will be any indication of how successful Frozen is, or whether it is a classic. Obviously a few people will never accept the popularity of the film...just like many on here refuse to accept the popularity of Avatar (but I will agree Avatar will not have the same impact that Frozen will...but land will because of how immerse it will be, but the movie was such a big hit because it was a first of it's kind...Frozen just hit the public in a way that will always be around much like the Lion King).

But keep refusing to accept the popularity of Frozen and the impact it will have forever.

You can't throw in direct to DVD sequels in an argument. They're a whole 'nother ball game.

 

[Macca250]

You can't throw in direct to DVD sequels in an argument. They're a whole 'nother ball game.

^Exactly, you have those half a**ed sequels that go direct to home media, and your big budget, theatrical sequels with relentless marketing and merchandise in tow. You can't compare them; audiences expect more for their money when dealing with the latter.

One would hope that Disney wouldn't sacrifice the legacy of the first one, or their current streak of decent animated features for more box office receipts. Here's hoping they work hard on the sequel and don't disappoint those who enjoyed the first one.

 

[Sped2424]

^Exactly, you have those half a**ed sequels that go direct to home media, and your big budget, theatrical sequels with relentless marketing and merchandise in tow. You can't compare them; audiences expect more for their money when dealing with the latter.

One would hope that Disney wouldn't sacrifice the legacy of the first one, or their current streak of decent animated features for more box office receipts. Here's hoping they work hard on the sequel and don't disappoint those who enjoyed the first one.

If anything I think the frozen sequel is going to be in far better shape than the first film. They know this is their goose they are going to have the best working on it.

 

[wdisney9000]

Where are all the people that cry and moan when this thread drifts in the slightest form? Ohhh, I forgot.., they only complain when someone mentions Frozen being inappropriate for WS. Every other drift topic is fair game.

 

[witandwander]

Staffing and moving for the M&G will possibly have been planned independent of the ride, aside from being given a date for it to happen by. Different departments. One can still happen without the other.

You're totally right - I hadn't really thought about that. All the rumors I have been seeing said construction for the M&G area looked behind construction for the ride itself, so I suppose I got my hopes up for a simultaneous opening. It does seem odd they would switch Mission: Space back to a Tier 2 FP on 5/27 if there was no new ride, but I suppose the M&G will also be a Tier 1 FP.

Still hoping for a 5/27 opening, but I won't hold my breath!

 

[Cesar R M]

Personal preferences aside, why don't you think that this is going to be a classic when its one of the most successful WDAS films since the Renaissance?

popularity doesnt means quality.
that movie just hit the sweet spot on the required timeline on the required groups to be a hit.
Zootopia is doing the same right now.. and has way better rattings.

 

[Cesar R M]

It didn't make them enough money.

I suppose for a company of the Size of Disney, anything that doesn't throw money like a man with taco bell with explosive diarreha.. is a "failure"

 

[Cesar R M]

While I think it's crazy to predict whether or not the film will be classic so close to its release, it's crazier to think its sequel will dissapoint with half the revenue.

Well, It depends on the movie quality a lot as well.

Anyone remembers Amazing Spiderman 2?

It frizzled way faster than the other Spiderman Franchise, big time...

 

[Cesar R M]

You know toy story 3 made more than the first 2 ever did? What makes you think in any dimension that Frozen 2 isn't going to bring in stupid cash.

Probably because like most Princess movies, they are designed to be a "single" entity. Not a franchise.
And the subsequent movies were all direct to video quality movies.

Now everything that Disney seems to think to be profitable.. they want to make it a Franchise with at least 3 movies.

Cinderella II and III weren't nearly as popular as Cinderella...does that mean Cinderella was a flop? The Little Mermaid has a 92% rotten Tomatoes score, but the Little Mermaid 2 got a 33% -- guess Little Mermaid was just a fad too.

Now I will ask - has there ever been a Disney Animated movie (other than Pixar movie) whose sequel was a big success? I certainly can't think of one, and looking on boxofficemojo, The Jungle Book 2 made the most money of any Disney Animated movie sequel (disregarding pixar) at $47,901,582. When I heard Frozen 2, I kind of expected it would be another film like this. I do think Frozen 2 will be more successful than any other sequel in the Disney Animated Universe (again disregarding Pixar), but nothing about it's success will be any indication of how successful Frozen is, or whether it is a classic. Obviously a few people will never accept the popularity of the film...just like many on here refuse to accept the popularity of Avatar (but I will agree Avatar will not have the same impact that Frozen will...but land will because of how immerse it will be, but the movie was such a big hit because it was a first of it's kind...Frozen just hit the public in a way that will always be around much like the Lion King).

But keep refusing to accept the popularity of Frozen and the impact it will have forever.

direct2video quality vs full theatrical releases is the only answer for your comment.
The quality differences are huge. and I bet the budget for these sequels where no where near the same as their predecessors.
On full theatrical release sequels, the budget is usually higher.

The only things that I think will be remembered of Frozen, will be the LET IT GO song and probably Olaf and Sven.

I would be shocked if there was no Anna and Elsa presence in the parks during that time... let's hope for the 5/27 opening date...which would make sense to open and work out and issues before the summer crowds begin to appear the week or 2 afterwards

Well, knowing Disney.. They will probably do the infamous announcement of an announcement of an upcoming opening (ala Seven Dwarfs with all the fanfare) while they do soft opening.

 

[Cesar R M]

Toy Story 2 was absolutely in the theaters.

Originally it was supposed to be a direct to video, but they loved the storyline so much, they pumped extra money into it to add the additional minutes into it to make it a full length feature.

Didnt they do the same with PLANES?

You can still see some very weak backgrounds and models in certain parts of the movie that were not "plussed".

k but how about an 89 percent certified fresh on rotten tomatoes? Or maybe 2 oscars? Or a 7.6 on imbd? At what point is someone reaching when they call this film "bad" when there is a lot of evidence towards the latter.

The Oscars is hardly a good representation.
You forgot how many times the guys voted for Disney because they knew nothing else. And they were too lazy to watch the other movies?
It was a scandal that continues.
The Oscars for Animation are pretty much Disney or Pixar to lose thanks to the disregard of the "experts" on Animation as "art". (aka they do not take animation seriously)

 

[Sped2424]

Isn't it just delightful? The same user who threw a hissy fit the other week when we were all having a fun time with photoshop is now the one leading the off-topic brigade. Never a dull moment in the Frozen thread

@ symbol is free to use and a great way of addressing to someone how you feel directly But I was simply responding to people's comments to Frozen as a franchise rather than spreading images that end up on other sites as "true images" but whatever. Also hissy fit is a bit of an exaggeration mildly annoyed sure, but hissy fit? Never.

 

[GhostHost1000]

So about that upcoming frozen attraction....

 

[Lirael]

Construction Ever After

 

[IMDREW]

I'm probably the only one here, but I would love it if Disney would fill the world showcase with new rides based on their movies. A Ratatouille ride in France, a Mary Poppins ride in England, now Frozen in Norway (although I do hate the hype it's gotten) and so on. The exteriors of the rides should have to be in authentic architecture of the countries and blend perfectly with how the countries are looking now and you musn't notice the "fantasy" aspects of the films until on the ride, but I would like it. Certainly not replacing what's already there, but it think it would bring some Disney magic to a park that reall needs it in my opinion. Epcot is really starting to look outdated. Please don't hate, just wanted to share my thoughts..

 

[Lirael]

I'm probably the only one here, but I would love it if Disney would fill the world showcase with new rides based on their movies. A Ratatouille ride in France, a Mary Poppins ride in England, now Frozen in Norway (although I do hate the hype it's gotten) and so on. The exteriors of the rides should have to be in authentic architecture of the countries and blend perfectly with how the countries are looking now and you musn't notice the "fantasy" aspects of the films until on the ride, but I would like it. Certainly not replacing what's already there, but it think it would bring some Disney magic to a park that reall needs it in my opinion. Epcot is really starting to look outdated. Please don't hate, just wanted to share my thoughts..

Ratatouille happened in France and Mary Poppins in England but Frozen happened in Arendelle, a fantasy kingdom based on Norway. It's not Norway. Might as well claim Zootopia was based on Germany and shove the characters in there. I feel it's tacky to remove a ride that perfectly fit the country theme to shoehorn another that barely has to do with it. If they had chosen to keep Maelstrom while making a Frozen attraction along with it, it would have been better, to me.

 

[IMDREW]

Ratatouille happened in France and Mary Poppins in England but Frozen happened in Arendelle, a fantasy kingdom based on Norway. It's not Norway. Might as well claim Zootopia was based on Germany and shove the characters in there. I feel it's tacky to remove a ride that perfectly fit the country theme to shoehorn another that barely has to do with it. If they had chosen to keep Maelstrom while making a Frozen attraction along with it, it would have been better, to me.

I totally agree with the Arendelle thing, didn't think about it that way, but you're completely right.

 

[GhostHost1000]

I'm probably the only one here, but I would love it if Disney would fill the world showcase with new rides based on their movies. A Ratatouille ride in France, a Mary Poppins ride in England, now Frozen in Norway (although I do hate the hype it's gotten) and so on. The exteriors of the rides should have to be in authentic architecture of the countries and blend perfectly with how the countries are looking now and you musn't notice the "fantasy" aspects of the films until on the ride, but I would like it. Certainly not replacing what's already there, but it think it would bring some Disney magic to a park that reall needs it in my opinion. Epcot is really starting to look outdated. Please don't hate, just wanted to share my thoughts..

as long as it fits thematically and adds to and doesn't replace something in existence today... I'd be open to that

I know many don't like seeing characters in EPCOT, but...let's face it.. it is what it is and now will always be....I just don't want them to ruin what is currently good about EPCOT (then is plenty areas to improve though)

 

[wdisney9000]

I'm probably the only one here, but I would love it if Disney would fill the world showcase with new rides based on their movies. A Ratatouille ride in France, a Mary Poppins ride in England, now Frozen in Norway (although I do hate the hype it's gotten) and so on. The exteriors of the rides should have to be in authentic architecture of the countries and blend perfectly with how the countries are looking now and you musn't notice the "fantasy" aspects of the films until on the ride, but I would like it. Certainly not replacing what's already there, but it think it would bring some Disney magic to a park that reall needs it in my opinion. Epcot is really starting to look outdated. Please don't hate, just wanted to share my thoughts..

But then all you have is TWO Magic Kingdoms. Whats the point? Why not just expand MK or build a new park? Epcot, HS, and AK all play a role in the fact that they are unique in their own ways. They have their own identities which in turn creates distinction that allows guests to appreciate the difference between fantasy and the real world. Should everyday be Christmas because its more fun than most days?

And considering we live in a world today where everyone seems to be concerned about racial equality and acceptance of other cultures, it seems that WS would be a great platform to bridge some of those gaps. Not saying it should be an awareness program or anything, but it has potential to be an educational tool through entertainment.