Norway Pavilion Frozen construction - Frozen Ever After ride

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RonnieHare

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2 years and counting for this attraction .... doesn't look anywhere close to finishing.

Any reason for why it's taken so long ... i thought they were just using the exisiting ride, i assumed for a quicker turnaround.
 

DisneyJeff

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2 years and counting for this attraction .... doesn't look anywhere close to finishing.

Any reason for why it's taken so long ... i thought they were just using the exisiting ride, i assumed for a quicker turnaround.

Actually, Maelstrom was running up through 10/5/14, so actual demolition and construction hasn't been taken two years. Perhaps there is more to the construction than we thought. It appears that the facade construction is more involved than we originally thought. The scrim has been in place for quite a while. Also, even though they are using the same basic ride layout (except for the old loading room), it sounds like everything else about the ride is changing. It may even take longer because they have to work around an existing ride instead of building it from scratch.

Plus, it's Disney. They never get done early!
 

RSoxNo1

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Has there been any word on the Fastpass situation of the Frozen ride in regards to the situation for Test Track or Soarin'? In other words, right now you can't get a FP for Soarin' on the same day you get one for TT and vice versa, has anyone heard if you'll be able to get a FP for Frozen Ever After on the same day you have a FP for either TT or Soarin'? I ask because obviously this is going to be a ridiculously popular attraction when it opens.
I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the tiers, but moved Soarin' Around the world to Tier 2.
 

RonnieHare

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I'm sure there's a lot to do... but it's mainly because of ignorance and poor management.....to be frank

What do you mean by ignorance and poor management? Surely it would be in their interest to get attractions finished quicker and in operation? It's been seen that whenever their is a new attraction in a park it usually gets a bump in attendance, eg Universal, Magic Kingdom, etc
 

Next Big Thing

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What do you mean by ignorance and poor management? Surely it would be in their interest to get attractions finished quicker and in operation? It's been seen that whenever their is a new attraction in a park it usually gets a bump in attendance, eg Universal, Magic Kingdom, etc
They open attractions when it's convenient for them. Disney tends to build very slow as they spread costs out over operating quarters.
 

RonnieHare

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They open attractions when it's convenient for them. Disney tends to build very slow as they spread costs out over operating quarters.

But if they built sooner wouldn't they reep rewards from increased attendance and spending? Why delay that - surely by spreading the costs out it would provide a negligible saving, as opposed to building quicker and getting the money in quicker.

For example, let's say Disney build Star Wars in two years time - they will see doubly digit growth, massive increase in spending, thus more profits. But if they say take 5 years, spread the cost slower, they've wasted three years of money that would be coming in. If they do make a saving from building slower, it would just be a negligible difference from the lost profits. Also from a fairy tale optimistic point of view - having attractions built quicker would just be more guest friendly !
 

Ripken10

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Ever hear
But if attendance is up and more income - wouldn't their stock price go up ?
Ever hear that anticipation is sometimes just as exciting the big day (think Christmas and Weddings). It is true in business as well. For the most common Disney visitor, when they hear a project that has taken x years to build is now opening, it creates a huge buzz and desire to come see it. Sure, everybody thinks there is already enough buzz, but the wait will create even more desire -- they will pay anything to see it. Besides, I don't think it is coincidence that Disney is having some big projects opening up with time gaps (just like movies from the same company) over the next few years. As a company you don't want two big openings too close to each other or it will take away from the boom you get from the first opening. Besides, Disney is never to rush anything - and IMO with good reason. They want to do their due diligence to make sure it is exactly as they see it in their minds eye. That has always been their philosophy. Some may not agree with it, some companies do the more "build it then fix the issues later", but that doesn't fit the Disney profile. To be honest, Disney would receive more flack for doing something like that than most companies (if they build something not up to the Disney standard) then most companies would.
 

RonnieHare

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Ever hear

Ever hear that anticipation is sometimes just as exciting the big day (think Christmas and Weddings). It is true in business as well. For the most common Disney visitor, when they hear a project that has taken x years to build is now opening, it creates a huge buzz and desire to come see it. Sure, everybody thinks there is already enough buzz, but the wait will create even more desire -- they will pay anything to see it. Besides, I don't think it is coincidence that Disney is having some big projects opening up with time gaps (just like movies from the same company) over the next few years. As a company you don't want two big openings too close to each other or it will take away from the boom you get from the first opening. Besides, Disney is never to rush anything - and IMO with good reason. They want to do their due diligence to make sure it is exactly as they see it in their minds eye. That has always been their philosophy. Some may not agree with it, some companies do the more "build it then fix the issues later", but that doesn't fit the Disney profile. To be honest, Disney would receive more flack for doing something like that than most companies (if they build something not up to the Disney standard) then most companies would.

So you are saying the build slow, sometimes take years, because they want to build hype ?
 

Ripken10

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I am saying it is a factor. But I said more than that, but obviously you only read one thing.
Also was more in response to why wouldn't they rush it -- several factors like doing it right, spacing out openings and..yes, anticipation is a good thing for new areas.
 

GhostHost1000

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What do you mean by ignorance and poor management? Surely it would be in their interest to get attractions finished quicker and in operation? It's been seen that whenever their is a new attraction in a park it usually gets a bump in attendance, eg Universal, Magic Kingdom, etc

that was my point... it should have been completed by now
 

Coaster Lover

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They used to be capable of both.

True story... even in (moderately) recent history, Tower of Terror site prep began in early 1992 and the ride opened in mid 1994... a little over two years from site preparation to opening and that even includes the bump in the road they ran into during construction when they discovered the sink hole. Additionally, that doesn't even consider the fact that that construction project also included all of the rest of Sunset Boulevard. By comparison, the Soarin' expansion is already pushing 15 months and Frozen is nearly at 17 months (both tiny, TINY projects both in terms of themeing and complexity when compared to the Tower of Terror/Sunset Boulevard project) with both attractions still having at least a couple months to go before opening.
 
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