Not what I meant, after 30 many adults are slowing down,
I'll be 37 years old and testing for my 2nd degree black belt in June. You know not of what you speak.
As part of the creative process, you start with a clean "White Board" or "Story Board" and throw out ideas and see which ones stick. The ideas we are hearing here are "Blue Sky". The problem here is that due to the internet and fan sites like this and insiders who can't keep a secret (or imagineers trying to gauge fan reaction), we the fans are hearing about these ideas very early in the creative process.
The imagineers have been given a task - create something that can compete with Discovery Cove and other high end vacationing experiences. You may not like it, agree with it, or be able to afford it but the high end vacation experience is real (e.g. Adventures By Disney) and it makes sense for Disney to bring what they are learning from those experiences to WDW.
Exactly. Everything we have heard is "rumor" and nothing concrete. These ideas will likely morph multiple times due to design and research.
Interactive experiences can be great, but they have to be done in the right way.
The problem I see with Night Kingdom is that there doesn't seem to really be any demand for the experience that was explained on Screamscape. )
I would venture a guess that Disney has done a little research to understand the demand. Probably much more than any of us have or could do.
If Disney wants a park to compete with Discovery Cove, they should just build a park where guests can swim openly alongside and with dolphins. (But Disney kind of already has that in Epcot)
This is the exact mentality I want the Imagineers to avoid. Why build a roller coaster in a moutnain. Just build a regular coaster.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it :shrug:
and what kind of innovation does that get us?
Took me a while to hunt this down..
Everyone who keeps saying we dont know enough to make a judgement on the issue, here ya go:
http://blogs.mediapost.com/behavioral_insider/?p=266
People who get paid to study theme park guest reactions and what they expect from a theme park and the differences between Universal and Disney (which both companies need to exploit to be profitable, not go against to try and grow a market share).
It pretty much blatantly says this is not Disney's venue and should be left to Universal.
Again, wrong mentality. With that mentality we would not have AK. I would hope that Disney and the Imagineers are listening to their imaginations and not the "experts" outside the company.
You seem to be saying one thing while inadvertently supporting the counter-argument. Yes. We ARE in the age of [insert new toy here] yet none of those yet has antiquated the theme park experience, which continues to thrive (as is evidence by the TEA report).
Who is to say it won't be an issue many years down the line? Well, I'll take that action. Your iPod hasn't eliminated theater, or organized sport, which have been around for millenia.
Waiting until something comes along to antiquate the theme park experience means you have already missed the boat.
The Ipod and downloading music has changed the way we purchase what we have been buying since vinyl records. Concerts and listening to music at home have always complemented each other; the iPod and down loadable music is absolutely changing the way we buy music.
Theme parks will outlive your iPod. When VHS tapes were invented the lawyers for Disney, and most major studios, freaked and brought action to disallow the RECORD feature for fear it would distroy the movie theater-based distribution network. Look at how that turned out. So as far as the "next big thing" goes, bring it on.
Waiting until something comes along to antiquate the theme park experience means you have already missed the boat.
Also, notice that Iger and Disney have been at the forefront of selling TV episodes online. A much different tact than when VHS came out.
I think there's a significant problem with you metaphor. Digital versus film cameras represent a technological upgrade NOT an innovation which causes a change in behavior. Ultimately the behavior is exactly the same, its simply a BETTER camera. Yes, they made film cameras obsolete, they didn't make cameras obsolete. Completely new technologies have been invented, video cameras, and yet still cameras continue to thrive, because the behavior and experience still cameras offer is unique.
If you were making the point that, for example, Universal was making all sorts of new innovative attractions and Disney was only making IASW-style boat rides this argument might make sense. But as for one type of entertainment experience over-taking another, I don't see the connection.
I'll disagree with here. Digital cameras have absolutely changed behavior. Cameras are now embedded in almost every cell phone, therefore almost everyone has one and the usage is much higher than with traditional cameras.
Again, the point is for Disney to not wait until someone else comes up with an idea, but to be the leader.
The people on these boards would be the first one's complaining that Disney is getting stagnant if another company does this and it is successful.
And that is what sticks in the craw of some of the zealous posters here.
There is this socialistic approach that Disney gate prices need to be low to grant access to everyone ( as Walt wanted :lookaroun
), that people should not be treated differently just because they pay $350 or more for a deluxe hotel/suite/concierge as compared to $65 All Star. That AP, DVC or Fla residents or those staying on site should get additional perks. Then there is this other nonsensical idea that all Disney offerings should be for the family experience.
And this is, IMHO, the crux of the matter. I have seen the "complaints" that people that can't afford the concierge level should have access to things like the Sunrise Safari.
Sorry, but Disney is a business and they have a right and a duty to their stockholders to maximize profits and if that means guests that pay to a certain level get perks related to that level hen good for Disney and good for the guest that can afford it.
I have stayed at Deluxe (concierge at AKL), moderate and value resorts. I still have a great time. When I go in June and stay at Pop Century I won't be jealous or think it unfair that someone else had the money to have a VIP escort or do the Sunset Safari at AKL. I'll enjoy the experience I am having and if I want something extra then I will save up and do it if I can.
Under Walt, if I remember correctly, you got to go on the rides you could afford to buy tickets for. Doesn't sound much different to me.
I am excited to see what "Night Kingdom" will eventually become if it comes to fruition. I have liked the direction of the company since Iger took over; the investment in DCA, the new rides at DHS, the purchase of Pixar etc.
I love the rumors and an interactive park would be something I might splurge on. Sounds similar to a concept they examined for Discovery Island with the creators of MIST (I believe, not big into video games).
