Next Gen Coming to TOT and Star Tours!!

[HMF]

Just remember, WDW isn't for everyone, its for the soccer moms.

"Oh, isn't that cute? Hunter put down his Nintendo DS for a few seconds to touch this bronze plaque."

Yep:animwink:

 

[wilkeliza]

"Isn't it so cute I love watching my kids banging their hands against bronze plaque which makes noise just like something you can find at your local McDonald's during your vacation that you spent hundreds of dollars on, Yeah, every parents dream.

What McDonald's do you go to? I know most of them in my hometown in Texas and all the ones here in the New York City area and surrounding suburbs don't even have play places any more.

I personally would rather see kids playing and having fun than crying and cranky because they don't have anything to occupy their minds. Children (and adults) don't need to have short attention spans to get antsy during a 30 plus minute wait.

 

[Hakunamatata]

No, because I've never really focused on it. Particularly when either it's busy or when the queue flows right into the mansion itself.

And let's face it, some random sounds from a queue that can be bypassed aren't enough to make or break anyone's vacation.

FYI. Its difficult to hear the bleed over noise from the crappy que over the sound of BTMR trains from across the river and the River Boat Whistle. You will have to try harder next time so it ruins your experience.

 

[HMF]

No, because I've never really focused on it. Particularly when either it's busy or when the queue flows right into the mansion itself.

And let's face it, some random sounds from a queue that can be bypassed aren't enough to make or break anyone's vacation.

Good for you, for the rest of us, It spoils the ominous atmosphere that used to perfectly set up the Mansion,

 

[zooey]

I think it comes down to whether or not you want a passive of participatory experience when in the parks. Personally, I want a passive experience. I don't want to get involved. Entertainment should come to me when I'm there. They should have bands playing music, dancer dancing, actors acting. I don't need a toy to spin because I waved my hand or whatever. That isn't impressive to me at all.

Then there are the people of the now generation who need reassurance that they still exist in a media-saturated world, and so, need everything to be personalized and co-dependent.

TDO is making these changes to reflect the direction the culture is going and has gone. They leave people like me behind, a guy who doesn't like where all this is going, but it doesn't matter, because there are a hundred people behind me who will easily replace my status on a sheet of empirical, demographic data.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Good for you, for the rest of us, It spoils the ominous atmosphere that used to perfectly set up the Mansion,

You didn't ask me before responding on my behalf. Im perfectly happy with the changes.

 

[HMButler79]

]Just remember, WDW isn't for everyone, its for the soccer moms.[/B]
"Oh, isn't that cute? Hunter put down his Nintendo DS for a few seconds to touch this bronze plaque."

That's probably why 24Hrs of Marketing had a smoother time at MK than DL! :drevil:

 

[HMF]

What McDonald's do you go to? I know most of them in my hometown in Texas and all the ones here in the New York City area and surrounding suburbs don't even have play places any more.

I personally would rather see kids playing and having fun than crying and cranky because they don't have anything to occupy their minds. Children (and adults) don't need to have short attention spans to get antsy during a 30 plus minute wait.

Then buy them a toy instrument so they can make noises all they want and stay at home,most of us go to WDW to have an experience you can't find elsewhere. Kids do not have to be playing with something every second of every day.

 

[erasure fan1]

I like the idea of adding to the star tours queue but Im not sure I want it to be "next gen". I would love a couple more state of the art droid AAs or some sort of alien jedi AA (like Kit Fisto or Plo Koon). Thats the only thing I thought was a bit disappointing with the redo, the queue. Its not bad but I would have liked them to really plus it.

 

[googilycub]

Good for you, for the rest of us, It spoils the ominous atmosphere that used to perfectly set up the Mansion,

As pointed out a couple of posts before, please don't speak for me, especially when your wrong.

 

[HMButler79]

I think it comes down to whether or not you want a passive of participatory experience when in the parks. Personally, I want a passive experience. I don't want to get involved. Entertainment should come to me when I'm there. They should have bands playing music, dancer dancing, actors acting. I don't need a toy to spin because I waved my hand or whatever. That isn't impressive to me at all.

Then there are the people of the now generation who need reassurance that they still exist in a media-saturated world, and so, need everything to be personalized and co-dependent.

TDO is making these changes to reflect the direction the culture is going and has gone. They leave people like me behind, a guy who doesn't like where all this is going, but it doesn't matter, because there are a hundred people behind me who will easily replace my status on a sheet of empirical, demographic data.

Yet, DLR, TDR, DLP, UO, and SW are still able to breathe oxygen and operate WITHOUT any of this type of tripe. I feel for you, as I feel and (others) have been left behind as well. It's why i have major DLR withdrawl, becuase DL is now representing the Disney I grew up with. Fact is everyone who defends this dosen't see that ONLY The Swamp is doing this and NOONE else in ANY other theme park company. PERIOD.

 

[wm49rs]

Good for you, for the rest of us, It spoils the ominous atmosphere that used to perfectly set up the Mansion,

Rest of who? The random posters around here and on the other interweb sites? Not exactly a fair or representative group there, I'm afraid.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Yet, DLR, TDR, DLP, UO, and SW are still able to breathe oxygen and operate WITHOUT any of this type of tripe. I feel for you, as I feel and (others) have been left behind as well. It's why i have major DLR withdrawl, becuase DL is now representing the Disney I grew up with. Fact is everyone who defends this dosen't see that ONLY The Swamp is doing this and NOONE else in ANY other theme park company. PERIOD.

I get the impression you feel you are entitled to have a WDW experience exactly the way you want it. If you are not happy with the direction WDW is headed I urge you to achieve a position of authority or responsibility within the organization that allows you the decision making power to mold it to your whim.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Actually, the HM graveyard does spoil the ride somewhat...

In your opinion.

 

[HMButler79]

Then buy them a toy instrument so they can make noises all they want and stay at home,most of us go to WDW to have an experience you can't find elsewhere. Kids do not have to be playing with something every second of every day.

Exactly. If they can't be happy with a HUGE Dutch Colonial Mansion staring them the face, a graveyard, a wolf howl and thinking "What's in there?" " I wonder how scary it is in there?" "How close is that wolf?" etc etc., then they have no business being at a Disney park. These parks were made for your imagination to be used. Not to be spoonfed every single story and theming point because Apple has brainwashed you.

 

[HMButler79]

I get the impression you feel you are entitled to have a WDW experience exactly the way you want it. If you are not happy with the direction WDW is headed I urge you to achieve a position of authority or responsibility within the organization that allows you the decision making power to mold it to your whim.

I get the impression that you want people that grew up going to DL and MK since 1955 or 1971 to just suddenly throw up thier hands and bend over for WDIs vanity projects when we survived being Next Gen-less up to 2 years ago.

 

[googilycub]

Actually, the HM graveyard does spoil the ride somewhat...

No more so than children crying, a steam boat blowing its whistle, the sounds of Big Thunder running on its track, cell phones ringing, or any of the other theme park sounds that are head in the HM line.

 

[wm49rs]

Exactly. If they can't be happy with a HUGE Dutch Colonial Mansion staring them the face, a graveyard, a wolf howl and thinking "What's in there?" " I wonder how scary it is in there?" "How close is that wolf?" etc etc., then they have no business being at a Disney park. These parks were made for your imagination to be used. Not to be spoonfed every single story and theming point because Apple has brainwashed you.

So, first it was little "brats," then Disney Moms, and now Apple? Are there any groups left you need to rant about?

 

[HMButler79]

I get the impression you feel you are entitled to have a WDW experience exactly the way you want it. If you are not happy with the direction WDW is headed I urge you to achieve a position of authority or responsibility within the organization that allows you the decision making power to mold it to your whim.

First that would require me to sell my sould and sign it in blood like Marty Sklar and second, I urge YOU to respect those who.....dare I say it... REMEMBER what it was like without FP and Next Gen and realize we are the ones who know what a TRUE Disney experience is like. Not the Corporate version your getting now.

 

[HMButler79]

]No more so than children crying, a steam boat blowing its whistle, the sounds of Big Thunder running on its track, cell phones ringing, or any of the other theme park sounds that are head in the HM line[/B].

Not part of the Mansion story or theming, real world behavior, so no net effect; part of Liberty Square theming; part of Frontierland theming; electronic annoyance that can be easily remedied. Roll dice, play again.....