Next Gen Coming to TOT and Star Tours!!

WDW1974

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I'm usually a defender of Jim Hill, but I'm becoming very intrigued by his recent formula for writing:

1. Break news about a controversial, destructive project that is unpopular and negatively received;
2. Condescendingly criticize us for not knowing the full details behind said project or not thinking about the project from the right point of view;
3. Continue to give us details that prove the project to be even more controversial and destructive.

That pretty much sums up Hill these days. He is quite obnoxious in a seemingly 'I'm just trying to tell you rubes how things are in a fair and balanced manner' ...

It's strange how he now seems to defend all of Disney's decisions, even when casually passing off facts like "don't worry, they're go to pave over the Rose Garden." Speaking of which...



This was one of the most distressing things I found in the article. Tearing up the remainder of the Hub's landscaping for more fireworks viewing? It's like the Hub's tree removal all over again...


That just makes me sick ... it's like Al Weiss (yes, now gone), Erin Wallace, Meg Crofton and Phil Holmes had a bad experience in a horticulture class at Valencia CC and are now taking revenge on anything that provides shade or natural beauty at the MK.

Just look at pics from even a decade ago or 15 years ago versus today ... the MK has become so hot, concrete and plastic feeling and that has a lot to do with slaughtering trees for all sorts of bad reasons (yes, chopping down trees for fireworks shows in the SKY is a very bad reason!)

~Only $3.79 a gallon? GO ONE PERCENT!!!~
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I would say it's fair that Jim is being used as a sounding board by WDW, at least in regard to this XPass program. And I wasn't crazy about him trying to tie this all to Avatar or a new Soarin' theatre, especially when he keeps stating how much of the XPass program is still up in the air.

He absolutely is being used. And it's with intent by folks at TDO/WDW Social Media. Whether he knows that's true and is opting to be used, I can't say. But he is.

And a third theater for Soarin has been discussed for years and ain't likely ever happening.

And Avatar ... I've said enough on that one. Wake me when construction starts.

And I agree. There's enough concrete on the grounds at WDW as is. I don't see the need to tear up that garden area just for some extra fireworks viewing.

Oh, c'mon ... why would you want trees in a theme park in a SUB-TROPICAL climate. Shrubs like at strip centers and wood chips like in my home's flower beds work fine. You just are one of the WDW fans that can never be pleased. Next thing you'll complain about a $10 hot dog 'meal'.:rolleyes::ROFLOL::drevil:

~I miss Fabby!~
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
He absolutely is being used. And it's with intent by folks at TDO/WDW Social Media. Whether he knows that's true and is opting to be used, I can't say. But he is.

And a third theater for Soarin has been discussed for years and ain't likely ever happening.

And Avatar ... I've said enough on that one. Wake me when construction starts.

Oh, c'mon ... why would you want trees in a theme park in a SUB-TROPICAL climate. Shrubs like at strip centers and wood chips like in my home's flower beds work fine. You just are one of the WDW fans that can never be pleased. Next thing you'll complain about a $10 hot dog 'meal'.:rolleyes::ROFLOL::drevil:

~I miss Fabby!~

Someone needs to explain to Jim that lightening rods aren't merely found on homes.

And alas, seed and mulch does seem to be a favorite landscaping feature these days....:rolleyes:
 
I don't think anyone is going to WDW to touch 'honey' or honk a horn in the Winnie the Pooh queue. I bet most people planning trips don't know or care about those features when they pick WDW as a vacation destination.

I'm 21. When we went last year, our first trip after the new pooh queue opened, there was no line and I made my family wait for me to play with the honey walls. Sorry, but I think its such a cool addition to the line.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
We will hopefully be having Jim back on our show in a few weeks and my #1 priority is clarifying as much of this Next Gen stuff as possible.
 

menamechris

Well-Known Member
I'm usually a defender of Jim Hill, but I'm becoming very intrigued by his recent formula for writing:

1. Break news about a controversial, destructive project that is unpopular and negatively received;
2. Condescendingly criticize us for not knowing the full details behind said project or not thinking about the project from the right point of view;
3. Continue to give us details that prove the project to be even more controversial and destructive.

It's strange how he now seems to defend all of Disney's decisions, even when casually passing off facts like "don't worry, they're go to pave over the Rose Garden." Speaking of which...

I am quoting this again for truth. Not to mention that as of late he magically has the answers that he needs to defend Disney and be condescending to the reader, but yet the most basic of facts are prefaced with "I think" or "I have NOW learned" (usually backtracking on false information he previously reported, i.e., the timeline for XPass). Much as people condemn or complain about a project they have little information about - so Jim is now attempting detailed reporting on something he seems actually to know little about...
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
You taking questions or is Brett going to thrash me again? ;)

Jim has been very good to us, but he has also been fair. We've asked him tougher questions about his credibility, but in the nature of our show we've joked about it. At this point I know that I'm sounding like the type of blogger/podcaster that WDW1974 hates, but I'm not doing the show for him or people that have similar opinions. Those people don't listen to our show. They're entitled to those opinions, and at times I agree with those opinions but we're not going to be governed by them.

Having said all that, I will be seeking clarification on some of these Next Gen issues, but I wouldn't expect Jim to reveal his sources on the record. One thing he has said with respect to his Huffington Post job is that now that the column is in place he's, "getting his calls rejected by a higher class of people."
 

wilkeliza

Well-Known Member
Jim has been very good to us, but he has also been fair. We've asked him tougher questions about his credibility, but in the nature of our show we've joked about it. At this point I know that I'm sounding like the type of blogger/podcaster that WDW1974 hates, but I'm not doing the show for him or people that have similar opinions. Those people don't listen to our show. They're entitled to those opinions, and at times I agree with those opinions but we're not going to be governed by them.

Having said all that, I will be seeking clarification on some of these Next Gen issues, but I wouldn't expect Jim to reveal his sources on the record. One thing he has said with respect to his Huffington Post job is that now that the column is in place he's, "getting his calls rejected by a higher class of people."

I didn't know Jim works for the Huffington Post. Knowing that makes me question what he says even more. Sometimes the Huffington Post can be true but I have found that they are some of the worst writers when it comes to using reliable sources. They will write an article based on hearsay and them back track if it is wrong before they ever loose the "breaking story" due to the fact they found people who knew 100 percent for sure and did more research. I just know that I stopped believing any of their "x celebrity is dead" headlines until I read it somewhere else because they would make the announcement by random rumors and never after confirmation from the family or publicity department for said person.
 

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